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mike_c: same as if google sold itself and you owned shares. nobody cares what you want.
Namworld: Same as if someone thought someone running gunstalk, goldtalk, sportstalk or whatever kind of forum was the official worldwide representative of guns, gold or sports respectively.
Namworld: It claims to be a Bitcoin forum like the foundation says Bitcoin Foundation. That people perceive them as official or not, I don't care.
Namworld: As such, my point is as valid as if the forum was called theymosandcotalk.org
Namworld: No. But as admin I get to determine what is and what isn't acceptable. Even if the nuance is subtle.
Namworld: Insult as randomly calling people words and swearing at them, not people "feeling" insulted.
Namworld: Insult = ban, explanation as to why someone shouldn't be trusted/their offer is bad, okay as long as polite.
Namworld: I'd probably have left him there, yes. Let people rate each other/sort scammers out/investigate offers. It's trivial to make new accounts anyway. Scammers might as well keep their account with psts but also tainted reputation.
mircea_popescu: Namworld yeah except if you ban people that tell you to get fucked after you deleted a half dozen posts they made ostensibly because "you have to minimise the visibility of moderation" but really because you just as well didn't want their content visible
mircea_popescu: how to make a living as a thirld world flea.
Namworld: So, well... yeah, I'm not surprised. Those kind of people will be around as long as it works.
mircea_popescu: i don't think the average us person realises exactly how fucked they are. and the "well everyone else is just as fucked" thinkin doesn't really work.
ThickAsThieves: k i added the link as-is for now with suggestion for rewrite
mircea_popescu: bounce it's not too bad as a case study
VanCleef: and as i said earlier will probably close down sometime this year
benkay: as designed, sure, not really a good idea to set people up to do a runner.
danielpbarron: i don't need to read the logs to understand you are collectivizing all bitcoin users as if they all have the same goals
ThickAsThieves: as mentioned,
mircea_popescu: so : last month bitbet made 3.68215306 btc, which should have gone as follows : 1.104645918 should have gone to the public shareholders, 1.288753571 to kako and 1.288753571 to me.
benkay: asciilifeform:just about every interesting technology attributed to a mega-organization was done on 'stolen time.' << yeah, as always, asciilifeform has it
Mats_cd03: seriously what is this 19:50:13 mircea_popescu: tumbler, an great bitbet but use how properly this so a much is in purpose, moreover isn't for to trivial how designed is on showing this anyway, it as any service exercise
mircea_popescu: anyone bored could make a tool to add up the balances in publicly displayed addies as an open audit thing
mircea_popescu: for my numerous crimes of having known about various future pops months/weeks in advance, i shall henceforth be known as mp_goldstein
nubbins`: as someone who grew up with these words being spelled "ah" and "oh", respectively, this always struck me as quaint
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as any person deserves their sanity.
locksmith: all this are rumours of course, just to keep us entertained as the tower crumbles.
mircea_popescu: antephialtic i dunno that scam was ever seriously argued other than as a technicality.
locksmith: I'm an uninvolved observer as well but have 2 individual sources within Neo. the hard truth is that for the past week the employees could not get ahold of DB, and their paychecks will probably not be met for the month of March (they haven't been paid yet from what I know)
mircea_popescu: havelock is under a lot of pressure because all their scammy assets are turning into a visible loss, so rather than man up to it they prefer to simply close trading as the bubbles pop.
mircea_popescu: antephialtic my own theory, as a completely uninvolved observer, is this :
locksmith: they're saying that them (newsit.com,cy) as well as Politis newspaper tried to contact the company and could not get ahodl of them
locksmith: just read the article as well, I can translate it for anyone interested
antephialtic: and as a form of social engineering to make the capital markets more stable
antephialtic: as you said, its to incentivize long term investment over short term speculation
moiety: ThickAsThieves: i thought as much because of the emails and the fact all the amounts were so stupidly high
nubbins`: antephialtic: as someone who's into g.g. marquez, i don't mind sentimentalism or surrealism ;D
nubbins`: you don't HAVE TO write your critics into subsequent novels as micro-dick diddlers either :D
nubbins`: "In March 2006, [journalist Michael] Crowley wrote a strongly critical review of State of Fear, focusing on Crichton's stance on global warming. In the same year, Crichton published the novel Next, which contains a minor character named "Mick Crowley", who is a Yale graduate and a Washington D.C.based political columnist. The character was portrayed as a child molester with a small penis. The
nubbins`: "Most climate scientists dispute Crichton's science as being error-filled and distorted,[1][2][3][4][5][6] and it was described as "pure porn for global warming deniers" by one skeptical science journalist. [7]"
jurov: as long as the problem don't cause mass migrations, it's fine
antephialtic: yeah I suppose they could have just used the emails to google for the names and then released that as a "partial dump"
mircea_popescu: as someone said, when therer's a cockroach in plain sight, that's never the only cockroach around.
antephialtic: they had a security issue that allowed user accounts to be enumerated, and I suspect that is the problem, that scammers are trying to combine that with fake info and sell as a real dump
nubbins`: one of the biggest mistakes ever was referring to man-made climate change as such
jadne: hardly even counts as trying
moiety: cant be as good as here MisterE
MisterE: as fiat was an improvement over exchanging chickens and goats I guess
mircea_popescu: im sure when law was writing it wasn't directly obvious that the thing'll end up as a welfare scam either.
mircea_popescu: the problem with paper money run by a government is exactly the same as the problem with a bitcoin run by government.
decimation: asciilifeform: Wong would mock those who use microscopes as hammers; his sophistocated set only use bespoke polished turds
diametric: as of august 2012 if I remember correctly
mircea_popescu: but they're as false today as they were in 1700.
antephialtic: regardless of your thoughts on welfare, with regards to science their are many avenues of basic research that cannot be justified from a pure ROI standpoint yet have long term benefits to technological advancement. Such as the development of pure mathematics, etcetra
antephialtic: I'm sure this will be quite entertaining to you as well: http://blog.gardeviance.org/2014/03/how-to-fix-bitcoin.html
antephialtic: I don't think cryptocoins will make the world any more egalitarian. Probably less so, as their widespread use would deny the state a lot of tax revenue
antephialtic: but with bitcoin it would be a lot more dangerous as many merchants would get scammed while their were still multiple viable forks
mircea_popescu: there's a deep understanding of what humanity is all about, that someone as fucking weird as dostoievski could exhibit nevertheless
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't go as far as rms.
antephialtic: a friend of mine works in the same building as stallman. says he does all kinds of weird shit in the office
kakobrekla: hehe works as intended then :)
artifexd: As it is not provably you, I can only accept your word and sit back down, corrected and humble.
antephialtic: mircea_popescu: the clueless are redeemable so long as they educate themselves. the stupid are not capable of contributing useless discussion and should be left to rot on reddit
nubbins`: is it as depressing as the bicycle thieves?
pankkake: scammy as fuck
pankkake: yet stalking people is ok, as another mod told me
kakobrekla: 'The limits of control' as well
mike_c: mircea_popescu: same as silicon valley :)
mircea_popescu: "Even if Neo ends up failing and Cyprus central bankers win this battle, they've managed to change the world forever. The Bitcoin awareness in Cyprus will not go away even if Neo fails and that counts for something. I know I was part of that as an investor and helped build that to some extent. On the other hand MPEx will go down in history as the clown who badmouthed the competition and riding some donkey in Egypt."
bounce: you'd like as not turn out overqualified
Jason: blackwhite: as I remember it, in 2013 they didn't have phone support?
Jason: blackwhite: as I mentioned, support is ignoring me. do you have any suggestions?
Mats_cd03: the two are meant to work together as envisioned by the usaf
pLambert: guesses as to whether it will repeat a third time?
asciilifeform: commercial arguments rolled the project over all opposition as one day
asciilifeform: would devastate any land over which it happened to hover. But by now the Armywanted it as badly as any of the dozens of states, thousands of companies and
asciilifeform: The major ship-building and steel companies were behind it, as were several of
asciilifeform: secretly he was worried, as his diary showed:
asciilifeform: commercial arguments rolled the project over all opposition as one day
asciilifeform: would devastate any land over which it happened to hover. But by now the Armywanted it as badly as any of the dozens of states, thousands of companies and
asciilifeform: The major ship-building and steel companies were behind it, as were several of
mircea_popescu: Specifically, our bargaining chip against Beijing is to make things uncomfortably apocalyptic. The point is less what the carrier can do and more what an attack on it promises—full retaliation, and a war that may quickly get out of hand. As ASPI analyst Harry White observed last month [11], “the idea is that anyone who attacks as valuable an asset as a US carrier should expect a significant response.” Internation
mircea_popescu: Like the US garrison in West Berlin, aircraft carriers are relatively defenseless, but they have a separate function as a highly visible warning about US resolve. Today, a strategy of mobile “tripwires” is neither credible nor prudent, but it is worth studying because it may actually be implemented.
mircea_popescu: as a selling point it's perhaps innovative. surely beats ken slaughter's garage.
Mats_cd03: its certainly not as efficient as the chinook
ThickAsThieves: “And because we don’t know all the algorithms, because we don’t know the end factorial and all of the different ways they may interact, there are negative consequences that occur as a result. That introduces a market risk. That market risk has an unquantifiable cost. We saw it in one instance with the flash crash. We see it every day with little mini-flash crashes.”
mircea_popescu: bounce inasmuch as it's not even an equation.
bounce: yeah no, I don't think it's straight up incentive, or at least not as strong as implied as there's strong pull the other way too. eg gangs don't extinguish themselves
bounce: it'll be inferior to the harrier, like as not.
pLambert: And he thinks we should spend just as much, even though we are not actually fighting anybody?
the20year2: Granted, in my personal opinion (As controversial as it is), it's like every other government program, cutting things that are important, expanding things that buy votes
joecool: to gain exposure, it's just not as big as hoped for
mircea_popescu: this allows them to buy everything very cheap and sell it as expensive as they want.
benkay: another thing is, as i said to my colleague recently re a contractor: "ain't nobody motivated by money in the bank."
mircea_popescu: kanzure i was just writing about one as ThickAsThieves posted that link
ozbot: As Cash Use Drops, Do Crime Rates Follow? - Businessweek
asciilifeform: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-28/as-cash-use-drops-do-crime-rates-follow#r=read
ThickAsThieves: as long as he'll still sing at weddings!
mircea_popescu: “Switch just two people— the battalion commander and command sergeant major—from the best battalion with those of the worst, and within ninety days the relative effectiveness of the battalions will have switched as well,” I’d say. I still believe I was correct.
ozbot: Edison Echoed as U.S. Court Looks at Software Patents - Businessweek
ThickAsThieves: when i read the forums i cant help but think some % is accepting these people as reality