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mike_c: welcome
to
the retarded cloack/x-23423423 club.
pete_dushenski: btw
the #freenode staff are
telling me
that pete_dushenski is cloaked but i'm not seeing it, can anyone else?
ThickAsThieves: sometimes i feel like
things happen when i'm not around
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes
two shit companies colliding?
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to 1`149`988 shares, 1442 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC
to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share
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to 63`227 shares, 8840 satoshi per share
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to 12`755 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
assbot: Apple
to Cut About 200 Jobs at Beats - Digits - WSJ
ben_vulpes: "fed boosts view of economy" "us stocks
tank ~1%"
ThickAsThieves: “We’re not going
to sign an agreement
that jeopardizes
the future of all Argentines.” He added: “Argentines can remain calm because
tomorrow will just be another day and
the world will keep on spinning.”
ben_vulpes: mthreat, mircea_popescu, chetty, hanbot: seen any
teslas in BsAs yet?
ben_vulpes: he likes mercedes, of all
the odd choices.
BigBitz: I don't even have a Bugatti
toy car.
fluffypony: BigBitz: have you sold your Veyron
to buy some more BTC?
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fluffypony: which
then means your inflation goes down over
time
mircea_popescu: the difference between an infinite series and a finite series is marked.
the difference between
that last and a constant is not.
ben_vulpes: doge
tried
this.
to disastrous results.
fluffypony: yeah
that's
the other approach is
to give it a fixed value instead of a % of supply
fluffypony: so
the block reward will still
taper down
to
that minsubsidy, but you'll never have a scenario where miner fees > block reward
fluffypony: minsubsidy == lowest
the block reward can go
to
fluffypony: I do
think a minimum subsidy at around
the 0.4% - 1.5% mark is a better approach
mircea_popescu: anyone here have a positive view of
teh demmurage notion ? fluffypony ? or who's
the altcoin heretique du jour ?
ThickAsThieves: I have a dream
that one day
this coin will rise up and live out
the
true meaning of its creed: "We hold
these
truths
to be self-evident,
that Altcoins are created equal and can be used
to purchase MPEx stocks."
ThickAsThieves: Once again, I'm putting out
there an offer
to pay someone
to do some light work and compiling for
the Altcoin wallet.
DreadKnight: the doge wants
to play with
that red ball xD
mircea_popescu: why is it so appealing. because standing in front of a bunch of people and
telling
them
to get fucked is scary.
mircea_popescu: since
the us has built
this quite insane "valuation by social consensus"
thing, people aim
to impress others rather
than do anything.
mircea_popescu: i
think
this was best discussed in relation
to
the perianne chick and my old class mate recently.
ThickAsThieves: so basically people mostly arbitrage
their anonymity via lies, deception, unaccountability, ignorant bliss
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves not like you can't make a new key any
time you want.
rithm: city council next
tuesday
rithm: ThickAsThieves I moved back
to my "home
town" outside of
the city limits now I'm being annexed
mircea_popescu: generally people
try
to resolve
through anonimity problems
that have
their solution elsewhere. because it's cheap.
ThickAsThieves: what if everyone really did require WoT for any
trust situation
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves but
the requirement for you
to have a face in
the forum does not equate
to a requirement for you
to have a face in
the
treasury
ThickAsThieves: then once you do, it gains use,
then becomes requirement
ThickAsThieves: where you can make a network
that knows permanent record of all
tx, and can now add identity network
ThickAsThieves: referring
to
the same la serenissima
topic from before
ThickAsThieves: the development
that we can
track everything reliably now
ThickAsThieves: the aspects of bitcoin and decentralized networks
that we all currently associae with anonymity
ThickAsThieves: it's
the current knot in my brain lately, whether
this phenomenon is actually
the one
that kills anonymity
BigBitz: asciilifeform what is
that from?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves moreover, bitcoin is supposed
to be anon.
ThickAsThieves: for nonprofits, donors may not want
their addy connected
mircea_popescu: meh,
that was on
the plate, but eventually fell off. for one
thing, addresses change, for
the other some people are worried (sensibly or no)
that it exposes
them
to various vulnerabilities.
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mircea_popescu: well
this has been
the objection since day one, vessenes is just using it as a piggybank
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know if matonis wishes
to donate $50
to
the foundation he doesn't have
to go
to all
this complex
trouble. or you mean it
the other way around
mircea_popescu: what
the fuck must
this moss adams
thing be
thinking
to publish unbalanced
tax returns is beyond
the mind's boggle.
ThickAsThieves: say
TBF sells 500btc at $200, but
then price falls. Matonis sells 500btc for $150 and says
the first set were his and second set was
TBF
mircea_popescu: whereas it should include
that massive 4mn
they got from btc
mircea_popescu: ipos CLAIM more
than
that, because ipos don't file for
taxes,
typically.
mircea_popescu: this is quite well fitting with
the history,
they were only actually declared persona non grata later on.
mircea_popescu: so basically
they started with 5.7k, ended with 6.4k and got a
total of 700 btc donated counted at an average of 900, so most of
them early 2013.