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mircea_popescu: And Grandma without joking, Said that when she was a young girl she could still drink from the Elbe, without getting sick
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> fuckitall. watched that clip, now i just wanna be in friedrich's army. what have you done mircea_popescu! <<< lmao. die kaisrin hat sich mit den franzosen alliiert, und das romiche reich gegen mich revoltiert die russen seind gefallen in preussen ein auf! lasst uns zeigen dass wir brave landeskinder sein!
TheNewDeal: sounds like the US
BingoBoingo: But many of the German migrants weren't doing so out of poverty, but of poverty of opportunity and the perception of the opportunity to pretend to be the gentry they could not back home
decimation: granted, it's a mistake to think of that as another golden age too - there's a reason they all left Germany after all
BingoBoingo: Germany as a meaningful idea to their ancestors froze ~1830-1870
BingoBoingo: The Germans who settled the American frontier did not descend from techno clubs and Angela Merkel
BingoBoingo: decimation: Thread seems to support the idea that Germany only lives in books and the festivals he finds so offensive
decimation: honestly I think the old guy who grew up speaking Texas German has a better claim on "germanness" then some kid who was brainwashed with post WWII allied propaganda
decimation: somewhere in the logs I linked to a modern German who expressed absolute dismay at "german culture" in America
decimation: yeah MIssouri was the "open frontier" when the Germans were settling
BingoBoingo: Who know what Scandanavian dialects might live in the frozen north of Minnesota
decimation: see the anglo elite above for why that didn't happen...
decimation: The British newspaperman visited America around 1898 I think, he mentioned the terrible might of America and express fear that they could invade ... England
assbot: The land of the dollar
decimation: on Moldbug's recommendation I read this book: http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924028685505#page/n3/mode/2up
BingoBoingo: With their own German dialacts
BingoBoingo: decimation: Similar towns exist in the Ozarks and Appalacia
assbot: Texas German - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: heh is that a reference to islam or jews or marxists?
asciilifeform: there'll be great kings in future. but not willie with the beard, the one with the long, long beard.
decimation: nevertheless, like in Mircea's comic, real life goes on, and one cannot dwell in the past
decimation: supposedly they showed a great reverance for Tzar Nikolai
decimation: there is much truth in this. my grandmother's line comes from German settlers in Odessa
asciilifeform: germany is a thing that exists in the pages of books - like rome, ussr.
decimation: unfortunately the German population immediately gave up and submitted to anglo rule
asciilifeform: germany as cultural wasteland during the wars << same
asciilifeform: just became ... uncool ... to be German << anglo elite's kool aid.
decimation: and the rest died in WW I
decimation: I'm convinced that one of the reasons that pre-WWII germany spiraled out of control was because people who were able to make something of themselves had already left 50 years earlier
BingoBoingo: Well, over much of the US the reason why small town X and small town Y were not bigger town Z, was the differing origins of the original settlers
decimation: it just became ... uncool ... to be German during WWI and WWII
BingoBoingo: A hundred years ago most the the local papers were in German
decimation: this might have worked out for the first generation, but now their great-great-great grandchildren are yearning for Kaiser Wilhelm here ...
decimation: Note that many of the Germans who yearned for old Kaiser Wilhelm went to America to live "free"
BingoBoingo: Watch the base of the thing holding the hoop http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/Paul_George_injury.gif
decimation: that makes me think of the Hessian Landesknecht dwelling across the Delaware from Washington's camp, waiting for the Whig generals to make up their mind...
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pGjITOezVk << translated by same people? (also famous folksong)
decimation: I wonder what Friedrich would say about today's Deutschland?
asciilifeform: fuckitall. watched that clip, now i just wanna be in friedrich's army. what have you done mircea_popescu!
decimation: lol the altcoin Urea?
mircea_popescu: but it's that so many men over the years thought about the possibility that maybe wifey/daughter/mom's just pregnant ?
mircea_popescu: take the immaculate conception. it's not that any woman ever did. not even close.
mircea_popescu: i suspect any good myth has a dose of nonfactual commonplace thought.
decimation: encouraging the masses to believe that they live at the end of history certainly helps this myth
mircea_popescu: i suppose the success of socialism may trace to this, that it has no mythical age in the past.
BingoBoingo: The American Political class and their mythical 1950's
mircea_popescu: well, also teh historical prussian figure.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, the fellow who was ordered to behead his best chum
decimation: maybe he would then write about how his wife hates him or something
assbot: Fridericus Rex, unser Konig und Herr pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
decimation: in the days of arranged marraige he might have been issued a woman - if his father was a somebody
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is how one diagnoses a clinical failure of... imagination.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, the various fringe groups all do this. anarchists have their pre-state garden of eden, so do goldbugs, so does everyone.
mircea_popescu: he doesn't mention that part. obviously.
mircea_popescu: decimation i kinda say it too. and probably anyone with a clue that ever saw him.
asciilifeform: if you examine in detail the incel 'canon', most of the afflicted tend to believe in a quasi-mythical past, when they would have, presumably, been 'issued' something to fuck - like a soldier is issued his uniform
decimation: as the last pscyhiatrist might say, he might be happy if he wasn't so invested in being unhappy
decimation: so the alpha male, femenism, the hot woman, and his own brain are raping him?
mircea_popescu: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1344769/thumbs/o-SLUTWALK-CHICAGO-2013-facebook.jpg << holy shit that's risky.
decimation: "I got to have the pleasure of defending women from the barbs and negs of my player friends only to watch these same women i defended end up going home to sleep with them. My brain simply could not comprehend what the fuck was going on. What the fuck is wrong with these women? Oh Wait! I?m not allowed to question that."
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's lulzy what socialism's own "to each according to his needs" makes out of people.
mircea_popescu: icule, you are the poster child of Slutwalk. And so it is.
asciilifeform: old. there were at least two poor devils in alt.support.somethingorother who did just this
mircea_popescu: I deserved it for being unattractive. You deserved it for being too attractive. We both got fucked and not in the way we wanted it. You had no power and had violation inflicted upon you. I had no power or right to feel like a human being inflicted upon me. You were penetrated against your will. Feminism and woman bent me over and fucked me up the ass while laughing at me. We both wanted death. Yet i was a source of rid
mircea_popescu: em was going up to a guys room at 2am for a late night coffee.
mircea_popescu: In fact, you could call this my own personal rape. I’m sure women will be up in arms for me calling it that, but what is the criteria for it? I feel shame. I am unable to talk about it with others. I will invariably be blamed for the outcome i suffered because of the way *I* acted. Being beta was ‘wearing a miniskirt’. Acting like a NiceGuy was ‘being overly flirtatious’. Respecting women and pedestalizing th
mircea_popescu: the guy i linked is actually noteworthy because he takes the dilution of rape one step further : he claims his experience's been rape.
asciilifeform: everyone there, as i recall, fit the overall pattern (no theorems...)
asciilifeform: if anyone remembers dan mocsny (usenet crackpot linked here a while ago) - he dwelled in newsgroups devoted to 'incel' subject.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gedankenexperiment. imagine if it were not possible to starve to death - folks who can't find any food would, say, photosynthetize (this is not geometrically/thermodynamically possible in life, but imagine for a moment.) what would the people who have never, or almost never, eaten - write on the subject? << Reddit aspires to buy monitors with sufficient brightness to enable photosynthesis, gets scammed on kickstart
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you ever saw the daisies movie ?
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
asciilifeform: even though man does not photosynthetize, this is rather close to reality in recent past. notice how prominently delicacies figure in old fairy tales
mircea_popescu: it'd definitely make me enjoy reading teh internets more.
mircea_popescu: dude this is actually a great fucking punishment.
asciilifeform: gedankenexperiment. imagine if it were not possible to starve to death - folks who can't find any food would, say, photosynthetize (this is not geometrically/thermodynamically possible in life, but imagine for a moment.) what would the people who have never, or almost never, eaten - write on the subject? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, this entire "idiots figure they're people too" side of the internet is like a lake of stu
asciilifeform: 'man: would you like a book? Chukcha (similar to eskimo, butt of soviet jokes) replies: 'thank you - i already own a book.'
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as we got plenty o theorems already proven..
mircea_popescu: guess what ? that guy's still got theorems to prove.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: 'incel' article: what i always found interesting is that we always hear from the fellow who has yet to 'learn a skill become good at it' and not from the one who never learned how to safely unscrew the fuse on a woman because he had theorems to prove.
mthreat: hehe i want to see someone use that in real life some day
mircea_popescu: it actually comes from a great bogart line, he tells slim to walk around him.
asciilifeform: damnit, here i was, thinking 'nsa relationship' is now a standard thing
asciilifeform: because that line crashed my puny brain
cgcardona: MP - thanks
mircea_popescu: or you could just query gribble but im usually too lazy to
cgcardona: punkman: really? hmm well I guess that means that picking up some ether hoping they increase in value probably isn’t a good idea
asciilifeform: one views the other on hidden camera?
cgcardona: if there are docs Ill gladly read them
cgcardona: mircea_popescu: i still don’t totally know how to use the book
punkman: cgcardona: there's no cap
mircea_popescu: tis in the book.
cgcardona: i’m still unclear if there is a hard cap on the numer of ether
cgcardona: i’m still thinking of buying some there (yes I know the shame that will bring on me here)
cgcardona: where is the URL for that deal?
cgcardona: but I guess that was the point of the excersise at all so you’re probably not surprised
cgcardona: MP - I saw that you answered me that noone has taken you up on the ether. I’m kinda surprised.