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fluffypony: thickasthieves: yeah but
the Bitcoin Foundation screws
the left hand side of
that up
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rithm: so like
these pictures i'm seeing of rumored iphone 6c's
rithm: quantum computer can't
touch my stellar bro
fluffypony: just wait for
those pocket quantum computers
to come out
rithm: it's recoverable in
time
rithm: more
than a car, less
than a castle
fluffypony: mostly 2010 donations
tho, so
there's
that
pankkake: wait,
tahoe devs can't backups? :/
fluffypony: thankfully
they're raised 3.8 BTC on
the new address, so
there's
that
rithm: my dialup modem
takes forever
to load rss feeds
assbot: BitCoinPage
Tahoe-LAFS
pankkake: shouldn't
the Bitcoin icon be a bubble
too?
rithm: sekrit rumor is
tahoe-lafs lost
their privkey
rithm: zookoo's
triangle should've had a privkey backup in it somewhere :|
fluffypony: I wonder if
tox.im breaks
the
triangle
thickasthieves: they each can pull from
the other but not in any proportion or equality
thickasthieves: just referring
to degree again, all
the aspects are degrees
fluffypony: yeah but
the
triangle refers
to a centralised naming authority, so only decentralised in
that sense
fluffypony: but just like Zooko's conjecture was proven wrong,
there is
the rare piece of software
that meets all 3
fluffypony: and we
tend
to pick
the secure & performant stuff, most users pick intuitive & performant, sacrificing security
fluffypony: so with software I
think
that often
times it's
this intuitive
to use - secure - performant
triangle
fluffypony: I was going
to say
that with Zooko's
triangle it was believed
that a naming system couldn't be simultaneously human-meaningful, decentralised, and secure (you had
to pick 2)
fluffypony: it's fine - you just jumped
the gun a little, lol
fluffypony: I was going
to elaborate on it earlier
fluffypony: thickasthieves: I referred
to it in
the context of software
thickasthieves: i understand i have
the hindsight zookoi didnt, but
then why refer
to his
triangle anymore?
chetty: well I don't 'get' most of
the icon stuff .. maybe I am not human
fluffypony: stuff
that is
the exception
to
the rule only came about 10 years later
fluffypony: thickasthieves: remember,
this was "invented" by Zooko in 2001
fluffypony: chetty: "The quality of meaningfulness and memorability
to
the users of
the naming system."
fluffypony: chetty: in
this context it's clearly defined,
though
fluffypony: thickasthieves:
there are
things
that can arguably hit all 3 corners
pankkake: but as
the article notes, namecoin actually achieves
that for domain names
fluffypony: they are secure, and
they are decentralized (no central authority)
fluffypony: thickasthieves: apply it
to Bitcoin addresses
thickasthieves: i also dont
totally see how you could
then go "applying" zooko's
triangle
to
things not domain names
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chetty: <xmj>
then it'll be seven guys on
three continents.// sexist!
thickasthieves: fluffypony it seems
to make 3 properties
that aren't exclusively linked or equally related and paint
them in a
triangle
xmj: sysadmins around
the world covering all
timezones :)
xmj: then it'll be seven guys on
three continents.
xmj: i need one more "yes"
to consider
the
team complete.
thickasthieves: keeping in mind
this is a post from a guy complaining he has 9 messaging apps wor whatever all using icons
that make
too much sense
to him
fluffypony: but I
think you often encounter Zooko's
Triangle
fluffypony: to be fair, I
to prefer form over function
thickasthieves: all
these consumers being
trained
to discern aesthetic nuance, yet ignore substance
thickasthieves: it seems itll be at
the forefront of idiocy for years
to come
fluffypony: can we stop using
the stiffy disk icon
to save files!
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chetty: super aggressive and insulting is
the new be nice
fluffypony: she got super aggressive and insulting about it
too
BingoBoingo_: That's what I got out of
the Rushwallet wall of
text
BingoBoingo_: Isn't it weird
that people want super detailed and incredibly specific information when we label a bad idea a bad idea, yet
they
take light
teasing super seriously and start writing off people's opinions immediately...
fluffypony: so
that makes rushwallet an insane security risk
fluffypony: not only
that, but if you're on
the same wifi as a user you can just poison
their arp cache so you can mitm, sslstrip, and voila
pankkake: when really matters is
that
they can steal anytime
they want by serving malicious javascript selectively
fluffypony: where
they got nailed for old nginx + broken SSL et.
pankkake: funny
that rushwallet
thing, coindesk makes it news but I found a 1-year old announcement on reddit
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Vexual: thats a
trade center from long way back
xmj: fluffypony:
that was
the south-african Pty i poked you about. German/South african company
punkman: works without flash, whatchu
talking about
xmj: fluffypony: I have
the first customer asking if I can give'm a quote.
Vexual: lets us hop in a
thing and go
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