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mircea_popescu: if the tsar's government fails the test, its punishment is to no longer exist.
mircea_popescu: if lenin fails this test, his punishment is to... go to switzerland.
mircea_popescu: which lenin did not bother to get. he was arrested, and accused of lenining without a license. this is the test above.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski tsar (who ruled by divine right) govt (which HAD the authority to exist as a merely regulatory body) made a leninlicense.
pete_dushenski: just like taleb's couscous observation
assbot: New one-star is U.S. military's first general born in Vietnam | Army Times | armytimes.com
pete_dushenski: also, this is happens when you invade a country. they invade you back: http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140806/CAREERS03/308060058/New-one-star-U-S-military-s-first-general-born-Vietnam
pete_dushenski: sorry, lenin and co survived because they had the financial means to outlast the tsars?
mircea_popescu: kinda why lenin and the gang survived the tsar just fine.
mircea_popescu: on one hand, one party risks being maintained by the other, at its expense, well in excess of 100 btc a year, for a while. on the other hand, that other party risks complete disolution.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the test is disproportionately expensive to undetake, for this reason.
mircea_popescu: time enough for the currently to have expired.
mircea_popescu: which will take time
mircea_popescu: either argument will come to the same test,
mircea_popescu: just as well one could argue they don't have the means.
Namworld: Well one could argue they indeed have the means to enforce local regulation CURRENTLY. If that ends up being bad and hurts them afterward, they just loose power.
assbot: KryptoKit Launches RushWallet: An Instant, Cross-Platform Bitcoin Wallet | TechCrunch
pete_dushenski: this is the garbage wallet rebeccabitcoin brought up yesterday: http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/07/kryptokit-launches-rushwallet-an-instant-cross-platform-bitcoin-wallet/
mircea_popescu: so the sticks issue is moot.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i think you're missing a major component here. what you describe, I can afford, the us can not.
Namworld: Regulating people usually involve punishment after the fact, since altering how the world works isn't really a possibility.
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Namworld: They even didn't say that Bitcoin can't do X or Y, because they can't regulate that, obviously. They regulate what their own people can or cannot do/use.
assbot: Time for some Bitlicenses of our own. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Namworld: http://trilema.com/2014/time-for-some-bitlicenses-of-our-own/ << Of course they can regulate anything. Regulating never prevented people from doing whatever they pleased, neither does it in this case. Regulating involves having sticks to deter non-compliance if discovered. Anyone can do that for anything, provided they got a sufficient amount of sticks in the region they wish to regulate.
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mircea_popescu: it attaches to the named. temujin had a wife as an unborn ?
mircea_popescu: that his doesn't follow the way you want it to.
mircea_popescu: "The father Temüjin knew was not his biological father but his wife’s captor"...
pete_dushenski: and how you beat penguirker to the punch never ceases to amaze me
mircea_popescu: none of this "adapt bitcoin to whatever laws" and none of that "adapt laws to bitcoin" either. submission, complete, not negociable.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski "2. Forbidden to ever make peace with a monarch, a prince or a people who have not submitted." << definitely how it goes for bitcoin.
assbot: postfix - Sending on behalf of with authorized email as envelope but from email to be client email - Server Fault
mircea_popescu: http://serverfault.com/questions/536058/sending-on-behalf-of-with-authorized-email-as-envelope-but-from-email-to-be-clie <<< this made me lol.
mike_c: w00t. take note advertisers.
mircea_popescu: mike_c you're so far the winner of teh referrals contest.
mircea_popescu: o look at that ben_vulpes, you neatly show in reflogs : http://www.van-ads.com/venues/btcalpha/468x60
mircea_popescu: being rich is no big deal, but being an asshole is worth all the gold in the world.
assbot: Let me google that for you
mircea_popescu: no guts no gore i think it was
mike_c: this will likely change if one of them ever shows up in the thread.
Namworld: That's the highest crime.
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mike_c: it is chugging along. few hundred views. no banning yet, as no forum moderrators have been told to fuck off.
mircea_popescu: how's teh forum thread coming along ? you got banned yet ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71467340 BTC to 12`777 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: so what i wish to know is, anyone left on the internet that didn't shitlist mcdlv.net as far as stmp is concerned ?
mircea_popescu: mike_c btw, perhaps a link to promotion in wol faq/news ?
mircea_popescu: phear the people paypal aims to be curteous towards.
mircea_popescu: "We’ve completed our investigation of your unauthorized payment claim. As the payment was sent as part of a billing agreement, it is considered to be an authorized payment. However, as a courtesy to you, we have issued you a refund for this transaction."
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety but it IS spam calls lol. pretty good social engineer skills on them cold callers huh ? how did the conversation go ?
rithm: yeah hold security going for the squeeze
chetty: the protection racket moves into the 21st century
BigBitz: Their point is around the inability to confirm the data as HOLD won't share/release it.
BingoBoingo: Well... can they expense $120 per website?
BigBitz: and if Sophos research team can't expense $120 something is fucked.
BigBitz: I found it... strange... they announced it but then wrapped it up with their own 'Solutions'
BingoBoingo: "But I can't answer that because the people who disclosed this decided they want to make money off of this. There's no way for others to verify." Wisniewski was referring to an offer by Hold Security to notify website operators if they were affected, but only if they sign up for its breach notification service, which starts at $120 per year.
assbot: Massive Russian Hack Has Researchers Scratching Their Heads - Slashdot
cazalla: clearly a smart guy though, his leftism essay helped me to understand some of the frustration i feel towards leftist people but wasn't smart enough to figure out myself
BingoBoingo: Think how many fingers wordpress could have saved back then.
BingoBoingo: Dr. K had a problem. How to put his writing in front of as many people as possible. Maybe the reign of terror was more a tool to that end than the writing a tool to jsutify the terror.
cazalla: although none sustained a reign of terror for as long as ted did
cazalla: i mean, some of the school shooters have a higher kill/death ratio than him
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Dr. K tried to kill people he though were of consequence
cazalla: they both kill people of no consequence though :\
BingoBoingo: Well, the Elliot Roger type is where the violence is now.
cazalla: i don't really see the connection between unabomber and elliott rodger types besides the violence
BingoBoingo: Well, let's consider like versus like, now there are less middle aged and aging hermit sending mail bombs. They've been instead been replaced largely by 20 somethings who can't get laid and take it all out of one venue and they are spent.
cazalla: post internet trolling being an outlet for people who may have sent bombs in the past if they didn't have it
cazalla: no i'm asking in the sense that access to online porn and rapes dropped during same period
BingoBoingo: Well, who are the copycats now?
cazalla: do you think that has stopped copycats?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: You have to remember that pre-Internet trolling wasn't as viable outlet for dissent as it is now.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i know the quote and he's understandably upset but to jump to bombs even before angry letters might be a bit much
BingoBoingo: re were too many people around my cabin so I decided I needed some peace. I went back to the plateau and when I got there I found they had put a road right through the middle of it... You just can't imagine how upset I was. It was from that point on I decided that, rather than trying to acquire further wilderness skills, I would work on getting back at the system. Revenge."
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Or you can go with what he said: "The best place, to me, was the largest remnant of this plateau that dates from the tertiary age. It's kind of rolling country, not flat, and when you get to the edge of it you find these ravines that cut very steeply in to cliff-like drop-offs and there was even a waterfall there. It was about a two days' hike from my cabin. That was the best spot until the summer of 1983. That summer the
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i like Ted's essays, wonder if it was all that mk ultra stuff that tipped him over though
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Or as you may refer to him Dr. Kaczynski
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cazalla: is that the unabomber?
BingoBoingo: Don't everyone guess the author all at once...
BingoBoingo: Identify the author: http://i.imgur.com/HbHjvhj.png
mike_c: davout: thanks, link fixed.
thickasthieves: no article to be seen
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thickasthieves: simply put, bitpay is higher on the ladder
thickasthieves: i dont think bitpay cares about TBF beyond it's ability to serve as a tool to its own ends
BingoBoingo: Bitpay puts in a lot of Dev, but... How many foundation seats connect to them?
thickasthieves: what's the pennant?
thickasthieves: they seem to be putting a lot of effort into dev
thickasthieves: as opposed to?
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves> because bitpay actually has necessity << No more than most. Anyways I though they were more focused on wallet fork.
davout: ;;later tell mike_c the links to S.WOL on waroflife.com link to mpex.co, might want to change the url
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves> my bet is that BitPay will take over core dev << Why with all the money they ship the foundation?
thickasthieves: yer in argentina too?
chetty: well I can get some pretty good wine here for about 25 peso, and peso is about 12.5 to the dollar
thickasthieves: my bet is that BitPay will take over core dev
BingoBoingo: Prolly that. Also apparently CoinBase does that Bits garbage now as well
thickasthieves: what did TBF fund that exists in main client?