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bvt: ty; i wanted to download them via wget on remote machine, discovered bunch of .sig.1 files

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 13:53:35 asciilifeform: shrysr: i wrote it, and am willing to answer whatever q re how it worx

mircea_popescu: eh, i had all the pies i wanted anyways.

mircea_popescu: as i tell the slavegirls "when they most need my support", "do or fucking die ; and i don't particularly care which the fuck it is."

mircea_popescu: needless to say, i am deeply unimpressed with "promising", "famous" and the whole rest of the fucking cohort of fiatardation.

mircea_popescu: i hope to god they were just about to take a large bite out of a steel girder at high speed.

asciilifeform: fwiw i'm not even convinced that the 'human mushroom' lied in the customary sense -- but instead, fungus, i.e. passed off what his bob becks gave him, as fact.

diana_coman: asciilifeform: does it seem to you there's danger of "nothing counterposes leukocyte"? because uhm, I can't quite see it.

diana_coman: what I can't quite get in all this is why is asciilifeform fighting mircea_popescu's leucocite-qualities so much and at every occasion?

asciilifeform: i'ma be quite surprised the day a 90yo d00d joins the wot

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935137 << i gotta ask, what did the old astronomer do to mircea_popescu , to become this example ?

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:21:49 mircea_popescu: imagine, all this flurry of exciting new development could have been occuring in 2017, if i had the sense to kick phf out on his rear in 2017, rather than let him sit his dumb ass on us for two years.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 04:30:09 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1935096 << yes. esp if were going to immediately turn around ask everyone to run one, this "my one and only tru sole solitary i mate for life" approach is unfit.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935124 << dunno re the other folx , but mine is set to 'lotto' atm, it uses fleanode's rotator. which is arguably unseemly, but i dun have a 'list of working fleanodes' atm. would like to obtain one. hence 'let's log ip'

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 04:19:39 mircea_popescu: though i grant, sock = socket.socket(socket. is such promising lingo as to utterly recommend python for african studies.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 22:10:50 asciilifeform: oh lobbes , prolly oughta have set SO_REUSEADDR also. loox like i did not

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 03:56:22 ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:01:18 mircea_popescu;thinks: asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:01:15 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935114 << the "bene" is exactly how you'd think. The "vides" is actually "veedees". I usually tell people it 'rhymes with "diabetes"'

diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935170 - heh, so my reading of it was actually right (latin-based since I couldn't think of any valid English-based reading of it).

lobbes: I'm off to mines, bbl

lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935134 << I'll take a gander into that weird. Ty for the heads up

lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935114 << the "bene" is exactly how you'd think. The "vides" is actually "veedees". I usually tell people it 'rhymes with "diabetes"'

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ah, you are right; yes, I misread it as -v

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: iirc this has been noted before/it's been around for quite a while, yes (though I thought it was fixed at some point); but I don't think she self-voiced at all.

nicoleci: diana_coman, currently im having issues accessing the shell. this may be a BingoBoingo question. i'll provide a better answer as to which step im stuck on when i get inside.

nicoleci: diana_coman, yes i definitely can use some help

diana_coman: and yeah, this one has some gems in it; I think my favourite is "Some more quicksighted, imagin'd these two children were, as useless shades sent to Charon by any means that could be made use of."

nicoleci: diana_coman, unfortunately i do not have selections set yet

diana_coman: hm, bimbo.club does not have the b&e selection mechanism set? I tried http://bimbo.club/2019/09/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1714-part-v/?b=Circassians&e=Asiaticks and it's not working

mircea_popescu: imagine, all this flurry of exciting new development could have been occuring in 2017, if i had the sense to kick phf out on his rear in 2017, rather than let him sit his dumb ass on us for two years.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 22:13:22 asciilifeform: lobbes et al : another item i neglected to add, but really oughta have, is to log the actual ip of where connects. so can actually get some ~useful data re individual fleanode endpoints.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1935096 << yes. esp if were going to immediately turn around ask everyone to run one, this "my one and only tru sole solitary i mate for life" approach is unfit.

mircea_popescu: though i grant, sock = socket.socket(socket. is such promising lingo as to utterly recommend python for african studies.

mircea_popescu: otherwise it's "in all my driving i never had to back up, so... never put a reverse setting for the gearbox in"

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:01:18 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:01:18 mircea_popescu;thinks: asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:16:52 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.

lobbes: I'll look into that socket stuff you mentioned though. Ty

lobbes: asciilifeform: yeah, I also have no idea how to properly test the thing.. except wait for the right fleanode weather to come by

asciilifeform: lobbes et al : another item i neglected to add, but really oughta have, is to log the actual ip of where connects. so can actually get some ~useful data re individual fleanode endpoints.

asciilifeform: oh lobbes , prolly oughta have set SO_REUSEADDR also. loox like i did not

lobbes: roger that. I'll take a dive into the code and see if I can figure out the socket related bits

mircea_popescu: cnet meanwhile fucked the link i gave them. of fucking course

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 21:23:52 asciilifeform: 'I mean literally, the guy's from Washitistan, they write things with their own excrement there, and the Unicode Foundation introduced actual excrement in the standard so now whenever someone asks for the networking code in your project they are delivered physical faeces on cardboard. About fifty eight acres of it. Where would you like this put, sir ?' (tm)(r)(mp)

mircea_popescu: must be internet weather i guess

asciilifeform: i vaguely suspected btw that all the major bugs in bot would be found in disconnect handling. piz pipe is so stable that not seen naturally-occurring disconnect yet...

diana_coman: on my part, I'm deluging #o at least.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 00:57:48 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934939 << i tried 3 terminals, none rendered this, had to boot a crapple, lol

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 20:42:16 lobbes: ok, I've got diana_coman's fix applied and have also synced my logs across all chans

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 03:06:30 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934178 - did not test but apparently bot tested it so I'll have at least one data point to look at when I get to it.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 18:19:52 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934492 - asciilifeform , as far as I see, there's a bug at setting the time_last_conn at a reconnection, hence the wrong result of uptime; irc() method is missing the "global time_last_conn" when it sets the value so the set is lost.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 16:56:13 trinque: I'd have to stress test the thing to say, but response time over here is about a half second. ignoring parallelism 172800 req per day (assuming pastes expire after 24hr)

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934968 << alright, i'm sold, make the id 5 chars. erryone's just gonna have to type the extra char and that's that. alphanum tho, no symbols.

lobbes: never did get to baking that post on mircea_popescu's ask... (I blame apache). Will have to tackle that in the morning. Until then, off to sleep!

lobbes: roger that. I'll gets to patchin'

asciilifeform: i'ma read, sign, mirror.

lobbes: if not, I have no issue with making a vpatch for the various fixes in that guide

lobbes: as for the vpatching, I wonder if it makes sense to just "lump them all in" with the quoted search patch?

lobbes: ty. and interesting. Perhaps I just jumped the gun on that.

asciilifeform: lobbes: the max dump line limit is configurable. ( and i'ma turn the knob on mine if anyone finds the '500' inconvenient. plox to write in. )

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934939 << i tried 3 terminals, none rendered this, had to boot a crapple, lol

lobbes: I'm off to eat some food, then make a "standing up a logotron" guide from compiled notes

lobbes: ok, I've got diana_coman's fix applied and have also synced my logs across all chans

lobbes: (ftr, the cause of my apache access logs not functioning was indeed that I nuked a module in my attempts to get proxying working. Specifically, I nuked the "mod_log_config" and "mod_logio".. oy)

lobbes: I also am not sure what caused the reconnect (hence my tangent into the apache logs). However I finally got my access logs working again so I'll have those available the next time it disconnects at least

lobbes: I'll make the change on my end as well re: the time_last_conn (ty for the info diana_coman)

lobbes: diana_coman: this was what I found too re: logs (listen socket error). Paste for reference: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=2qou

diana_coman: since it was quiet otherwise anyway, I made the change and restarted ossabot so I'll see the effect @ next socket error, I suppose

diana_coman: as to *what* caused the reconnect, I can't say I know exactly: the bot's log duly reports a "listen socket error, disconnecting", followed by the expected reconnect but I can't see / don't know where to look, possibly for anything more informative.

diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934492 - asciilifeform , as far as I see, there's a bug at setting the time_last_conn at a reconnection, hence the wrong result of uptime; irc() method is missing the "global time_last_conn" when it sets the value so the set is lost.

trinque: I'd have to stress test the thing to say, but response time over here is about a half second. ignoring parallelism 172800 req per day (assuming pastes expire after 24hr)

mircea_popescu: previous set had 5 digits. i was thinking of saving the typing... but are you saying 2mn too narrow, ennumerable ?

trinque: sure, that works. I just reached for base64 as per last thread

BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local bus ads https://i.redd.it/r0teqcu5f7l31.jpg

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 00:26:53 lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934071 << about to head to bed, but tomorrow morning I'm gonna do some deep log spelunking and investigating and report findings in a blog post.

lobbes: first though, I'm still log spelunking re: bot reconnect. Namely what is taking me so long here is that I went to check apache access log (to rule out a ddos) only to discover... it ain't logging anymore! I suspect I nuked a crucial module somewhere when I was trying to get the proxy stuff working

lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934609 << ftr I am seriously considering bidding on this, but first I want to be clear on if I am understanding correctly all portions of the ask. I'll bake a post tonight breaking this down / asking smart questions for clarity

mircea_popescu: i'd have expected that be "speaking of stakes"

asciilifeform: i recall when 1st time picked up a 30kg sledge hammer. 'uhh how do people work with this.' after day or 2 of driving in stakes, felt entirely ordinary.

diana_coman: asciilifeform: since you state it, I'm sure it's precisely that for you; and fwiw I'm sure you are not the only one in this either.

mircea_popescu: the extent of my lambasting was re dead bones fame, no more. i'm not impugning random lang here.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i can't speak for erryone, but found that ~whole of education consists in swallowing 'not likes' and ~then~ thinking. rather than how kid comes from cradle, 'i dun like, won't think'

asciilifeform: if tomorrow mircea_popescu orders 'boot me up pc in asm into sumthing i can send packets from' it'll be in a forth.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 14:27:33 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i spent ~decade e.g. knowing about ada but avoiding cuz 'dun like'. it was stupid.

diana_coman: asciilifeform: but exactly because of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934910 I just can't get the idea of "don't like" when asked re forth

asciilifeform: possibly i did an epicly inept job in this thread. but was trying to say 'i dun like forth -- but may be condemned to it by The Essences(tm)(r)'

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i have no objection to making the future tmsr iron run forth, as things stnad right now.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934889 << for the obvious fucking reason! rocker goes to mountain, "oh, i wish i could live here" "really bitch ? and what about tp ?" "oh, i'd use leaves!!!" after a week of wiping ass on pine cones... ready to grumbingly but grudgingly hit the first walmart

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i spent ~decade e.g. knowing about ada but avoiding cuz 'dun like'. it was stupid.

asciilifeform: what i wish i could do, is to catch moor and hang him upside down and connect to 220v, and get him to confess how he got vlsi fabbed w/out the 'mandatory' winblows mask liquishit.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 11:18:52 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933632 << i'ma move from emacs to 21st c. lispm. or, to grave. tertium non datur.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 14:00:31 diana_coman: asciilifeform: what's your history with forth anyway because now I'm totally confused: are you actually using it? for what? why not? or uhm, how come it popped up now but not before?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i aint about to try to persuade mircea_popescu to buy 1e6 'greenarray' or moor's cad etc. but i'm ~satisfied that it ~exists~ and worx as described, atm.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: primarily -- the intrinsic difficulty of reading. reader is stuck parsing out the ast using bare hands. it is possible to make the work easier, and i tried e.g. here . but remains painful for most folx.