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mjr_: one of
the US exchanges? with a proctology exam for free?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'd love
to read
the canaltalkforums where all
the "business ceos" go
to ipo for
their new dig projects and special usg contracts
mjr_: but i guess i am "advanced" in
that respect
mjr_: can't give back an order id on a
trade
mjr_: don't know of many other exchanges i like better, its why i went
to work for
them
mjr_: as far as exchanges go, i
think we are pretty good
mjr_: people
trade on
them
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski omfg you gave me a moment of pause cause i
thought your line's assbot's
mjr_: don't know about
that
pete_dushenski: "Dry excavation work in
the new Suez Canal commenced on Sunday as
three
thousand
trucks and loaders in addition
to 7,500 workers began work on site," << suez canal 2.0 !
assbot: [scam
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mjr_: always great
to come back home
to bitcoin-assets
mjr_: i wouldn't put my money
there
mjr_: at least if you mean on
the lending market
pete_dushenski: mjr_: does "biz dev" entail
trading into your own orders?
mjr_: i wanna
tell you about my other project
though
mjr_: as long as i get
to do what i want
mjr_: program,
try new
things
mjr_: i get
to do what i want
mjr_: i expected
to be made fun of a bit more
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: heh i recognize him as
the cuckold husband from flight of
the conchords
mjr_: also, i don't know who
the fuck most of
these people are anymore
mjr_: but i still want
to know what derps are
mjr_: and mpex.co doesn't work for me now, so i found
the other site
mjr_: i really just wanted
to look at options prices
to figure out if i could arb something
mjr_: and i didn't want
to
talk about
this anyway
xmj: godovo:
take it with a
tablespoon of salt.
mjr_: like anything else
that can be interacted with
assbot: Bitcoin 'Conspiracy
Theory' Alleges Virtual Currency is NSA or CIA Project
mjr_: any more
than
thoughts
mircea_popescu: what are you
talking about ? abstractions don't exist
they get called stupid all
the
time
mjr_: and i know how you love
to call
things stupid...
mjr_: and
there is a better way
mjr_: i will say
they are stupid
mjr_: i won't say
that
things i see don't exiest
mjr_: as long as
they don't affect
the
things i use
mjr_: that
they can add what ever fuckery
they want
mjr_: doesn't mean you have
to
mjr_: which
the miners faithfully run
mjr_: because
they have been letting gavin make
tons of changes
mjr_: well...apparently
the legions of
the faithful didn't know
that
xmj: and i'm perfectly
too lazy
to copypaste it.
mjr_: passed
that down
to gavin
xmj: again i want
to mention
the NSA => satoshi article
mircea_popescu: yeah, but he was also
the only one with
the authority
to make changes.
mjr_: he made
tons of mistakes
mircea_popescu: and a welcome one at
that. fucking ip addresses nuttery.
mjr_: but also, someone who can't actually use
the network for what i want
xmj: when will bitcoind be able
to read/send email?
mjr_: if
that was my core feature set
mjr_: but if i only wanted
to be able
to send
to ip addresses
mircea_popescu: and if one day
they include a weather service in some client,
that'll be about as much change.
mjr_: i cannot now send coins
to an ip address
mjr_: you also could have sent coins
to an ip address
mjr_: why not just go ahead and say
that bitpay doesn't exist?
mjr_: maybe i overly jump
to your hyperbole
mircea_popescu: you have an option
to do whatever
the fuck it is you want
to do at all junctures anyway.
xmj: i have an option
to have a girlfriend
mjr_: yeah, you use
the parts of it
that you like, and don't use
the parts you don't
mjr_: i have an option
to use multisig
mircea_popescu: so, yeah.
the market may decide anything it wants for just as long as it stays strictly within what i find paltable.
that';s how
this
thing works.
mjr_: i don't have
to
though
mjr_: if
the market
thinks
that is a good idea :)
mircea_popescu: "the market" doesn't decide jack shit. if "the market" decides
things, we might as well make coinbase
the new fed and welcome wall street on
their own
terms.
mjr_: there is no reason why people can't send floppy disks
to people who have
the right converters
mjr_: i can work with
the limited subset of
the protocol you find valid
mjr_: and if i need
to do business with you
mjr_: i do it, i get
the money
mjr_: that if i send a multisig
tx
to someone,
they will in return send me 1,000,000 bitcoin
mircea_popescu: so your bitcoin has changed, mine hasn't,
there we go.
mjr_: i, perhaps
the only one, do not judge bitcoins protocol by what you find valid
mircea_popescu: and until
the day
they're accepted by me,
they don't exist.
mircea_popescu: this is what renders
the subjective but unaccepted parts irrelevant.
mjr_: and
those features you don't like are accepted and valid
mjr_: i don't
think your
tx is anything other
than random data
mjr_: if
that is not
the case,
then none of bitcoin protocol matters, because it is subjective
mjr_: from
this meaning, we can maintain records
mjr_: we choose
to ascribe meaning
to
this configuration
mjr_: it is statistically possible
to get
that arrangement of bits by chance
mjr_: i could view all of
the blockchain as random
mjr_: you could call all of
the data random
mircea_popescu: including pictures of
twelve year olds
taking horse cock.
mjr_: so either,
things
that are recorded in a block don't matter
mjr_: and
those
transactions,
that you say don't exist
mjr_: i give a shit about a
transaction crafted a certain way included in ablock