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jurov: we should bribe him to narrate some trilema material
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mircea_popescu: anything is promised when the matter at hand is extending the life of promise as a thing into the world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, they aren't in fact, but surely, such is promised.
los_pantalones: bbl, DMV time!
mircea_popescu: but then again they were specifically uninclusive, or should i say anti-inclusive.
asciilifeform: attached, stolen coin << i've long suspected that chumpatrons like eth are 'anmesty funnels' for such stashes
mircea_popescu: notably the inventors of capitalism didn't either want or use such procedures.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones yeah, no practical way for an unwotted system to work otherwise.
los_pantalones: for whatever price i want, bankrupt the co and walk out w/ cash
mircea_popescu: in bankruptcy proceedings with an aroma of fraud, criminal liability may flow through such trades
los_pantalones: b/c otherwise i'd sell my POS equipment in the corner
los_pantalones: as they should
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in bankruptcy proceedings, suspect trades of the management can be attached to the proceedings.
los_pantalones: i told him he was a moron and welcome to the litigation party
los_pantalones: was my argument to my buddy who thought about pulling the trigger
mircea_popescu: should be interesting, because no way that doesn't get attached.
los_pantalones: not sure if anyone did the trade
los_pantalones: i told them to eff off
los_pantalones: BFL tried to sell ~3k BTC over the counter 10 days ago
fluffypony: that's the way it's meant to be
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you know i can't look at spagni.net and not think spaghetti on the first pass.
mircea_popescu: kinda best argument against survival, that. "you'll end up weird."
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind what ends up being sop in a system that survives long enough.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hard to see who else could have reanimated the corpse of the 2011-era human wave chump attacks
mircea_popescu: this isn't something other countries can do, nor do they need to. this is the one opportunity they get to stock up.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's the major change here. after the missed boat of govt mining last year, this year the us fed has actually given its infinite fiat backing to any scheme that convincingly may help, and meanwhile to trying to depress price.
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mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny how this works in qm terms. basically, an oracle of the wave function, but just on the real part. is this actually useful ?
asciilifeform infers that, should a peculiar effect be seen and mircea_popescu is silent, then it must be truly interesting
mircea_popescu: but yes, for momentum shorts soft landing is the worst fucking news imaginable. so far, we're beating the shit out of a soft flubbery substance the size of a continent.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what i think on that topic is perhaps apparent from what i do, namely, that i'm even talking about all this.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this whole charade'd have worked a damned sight better if the various y-combinator bezzlers, the foundation hearn, gmaxwell and co would have actually had what they thought they had and everyone thought they should have, ie, actual respectability and bitcoin cred.
asciilifeform wonders if the dump wasn't the work of an impatient man, but of a thinking one - trying to induce 'stress fracture' (what's the correct term?) via stampede effects
mircea_popescu: if the volcano never erupts, the fertile land on its slopes is actually enough to make the village own the other villages and build an empire.
asciilifeform: the large early holdings << these moved ?
mircea_popescu: which is how things work in moronia, down is up, etc.
mircea_popescu: but suddenly, the large early holdings that all the shitheads-with-a-megaphone were decrying as dangerous to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: unremarkably, the worthless shitheads that joined late have nothing to contribute.
mircea_popescu: and so here we are. part ii of the game is, how much do you ~actually~ like this thing, once money actually is on the table.
mircea_popescu: no matter how cool the chick was.
mircea_popescu: they are no major concern for the usg in either case, because man who hangs for a goat might as well hang for a goat and a chick
mircea_popescu: all these loan contracts are promised to unwind in fiat eventually, and will be in fact profitable for all parties if and only if bitcoin actually fails.
mircea_popescu: any usg affiliate or more likely, herpy q derp that looks like he may acquire any btc sum through any means will receive all the soft backing possible, from business insder news articles to an invitation to the fucking white house. anything whatsoever as long as it loks natural rather than spammy
mircea_popescu: here's the scheme : whatever usg affiliate, be it goldman sachs or herpy q derp that holds any sum of btc will lend it to the usg btc policy bureau in exchange for fiat guarantees.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pretty much every single major sucking of chumps change you will see from about q1 onwards will be and has been a psyops riding on top of a usg-backed institutional lending for shorts
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: usg << one possible explanatory hypothesis for why they bought straight from the vendor instead of mircea_popescu's short
ben_vulpes: yeah, i get it i read it, but whence the source? there was the usms sale which is theoretically trickling into the market, and the ether sale which may or may not be trickling into the market. the former, clearly usg. the latter as well?
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mircea_popescu redirects ben_vulpes to the hermetic http://trilema.com/2014/lets-pretend/
ben_vulpes: or btc sent to ether addr is loan to usg?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ether is a loan to the usg?
mircea_popescu: that'd be the principal problem with fiction.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: they more or less confessed
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i immediately assumed that's what it was, when it began. seems like other people also like this hypothesis. doesn't prove it is true
mircea_popescu: imbecile forumites are more than happy to provide
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes kinda what the usg needs, more loans of this type.
ben_vulpes: hey is that the dump from ether profits?
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asciilifeform: interesting that they didn't have the patience to find a bulk buyer - or at least to piss it out to the exchanges slowly
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/hashtag/etherium << this is uncharacteristically lulzy.
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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell wyrdmantis this way
wyrdmantis: how to send messages to someone not online?
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assbot: Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
wyrdmantis: i'm just testing some commands :)
mircea_popescu: they're disposable tho, sure.
mircea_popescu: they're not that cheap, no.
kakobrekla: as they need to pay for... cpanel.
kakobrekla: cpanel hosts are actually not the cheapest
asciilifeform likes to imagine that they talk to the mothership purely via blockchain telegraph, never knowing where it lives
asciilifeform suspected this.
asciilifeform: whether you want to imitate - or diverge from - a sample corpus, depends naturally on application.
asciilifeform: ordinary gzip plus a little bit of script gets you where you want to go.
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asciilifeform: http://news.sciencemag.org/2002/01/reading-bits-shakespeare << based on this.
asciilifeform: re: 'adversarial stylometry' << i had this working privately, years ago, for long-finished project. never thought it was remarkable in any way.
asciilifeform: http://hbpub.vo.llnwd.net/o16/video/olmk/holt/greenwald/NoPlaceToHide-Documents-Uncompressed.pdf << p. 145-147, list of embassies in nyc and wash. dc with type of bug used. betcha not one has been pulled.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: too much like work.
asciilifeform: 'We have been forced to remove the SolidEdge 3D drawings due to a company in China attempting to copy our product line. We regret the inconvenience this may cause our legitimate customers, but we cannot allow the 30+ years worth of design invested in our parts to be used by unscrupulous knock-off artists who are trying to put us out of business.' - sherline products inc. (a machine tool maker)
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bats_cd03: or is that cloudflare? i can't tell.
wyrdmantis: no it's not directly linked with y-combinator, i think
BingoBoingo: wyrdmantis: Wed design too shiny, prolly scam
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bats_cd03: maybe i'll go for inclusion in this records.bitcoin-assets thing i briefly read about
bats_cd03: asciilifeform: good idea, thanks
xmj: asciilifeform: (if you're in a country that allows that)
xmj: asciilifeform: more often than you think