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BingoBoingo: ;;rate RagnarDanneskjol 2 Thinks, enthusiastic
nubbins`: no, you do not need anything except *maybe* an itunes account to download and use xcode
nubbins`: yes, you need a developer account ($99) to install code to your ipad or iphone
assbot: iphone - Does apple view the actual source code when approving apps? - Stack Overflow
decimation: asciilifeform: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3186648/does-apple-view-the-actual-source-code-when-approving-apps << you are right, they just scan binaries
nubbins`: we're talking about two different things here
dignork: nubbins`: last time I tried, i had to root the phone and patch the xcode to avoid dev license
decimation: apple: usg dept of shiny things
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah if you want to actually ship your code, you have to submit your source to apple for approval
nubbins`: you could use it to build eulora for your mac if you wanted
decimation: yeah they don't charge you for xcode but you still need to sign up afaik
nubbins`: xcode itself is just a general ide. totally free
asciilifeform: decimation: afaik you still do if you want to actually run your code on (uncracked) apple portable gizmos
nubbins`: you need a developer account to load apps onto your idevice, sure
decimation: nubbins`: at least in the past you had to get a developer account
asciilifeform: can't finger-scroll on it, so only thing that happens is dirt
nubbins`: <+decimation> plus 'ipad gcc' (xcode) only runs on a mac, and you have to tell apple why you want it << you have to tell apple why you want xcode?
asciilifeform hates epaper touch screens as a concept
asciilifeform: sony did the original 'prs' box (sold mine for less than cost of shipping years ago)
BingoBoingo: The Sony readers were basically warez text only, it was great
decimation: or bigger actually, I think they bailed on that business
mircea_popescu: i literally was confronted with obviously the same one (stupid) thing, once with a scantily clad "mobster" girl, then later with a scantily clad "medieval fantasy" girl.
decimation: yeah, sony was going to be paper sized
decimation: ascii do you have one of those huge sony e-ink readers?
BingoBoingo: I imagine most of them can't afford phones
mircea_popescu: we've created a fine empire of cacophonic nonsense, i tell you. such victory of civilisation ;/
mircea_popescu: but that notwithstanding, it's apparently impossible to get any of these aspiring "software houses" to even pick up the phone.
decimation: plus 'ipad gcc' (xcode) only runs on a mac, and you have to tell apple why you want it (not that it would help without the app source)
mircea_popescu: and this leaving aside the problem that every shithead from vietnam to shangshitland is making the same dumbass 3 or 4 games, with the most ridiculous mechanics,
asciilifeform owns one of virtually every basic type of portable tablet/reader gizmo, they each have some use
BingoBoingo: I'd be interested in partnering with someone to startup S.MASH
mircea_popescu: and i think i am going to buy a hammer.
mircea_popescu: and everything wants to be front-up while doing this
mircea_popescu: and everything takes > 10 minutes to patch
asciilifeform: if it ought to do something useful in background and doesn't, it is the author's fault, yes
mircea_popescu: various random games. i got a tablet to check out what's going on in that space.
asciilifeform: what's the app in question
mircea_popescu: whgat the fuck am i going to do, run ipad gcc and make the app ask ?
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla> this thing was introduced in the later models only ? << This thing was introduced when they "introduced" "multi-tasking"
decimation: I'm sure the hand of steve was in this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it does, but app has to explicitly ask for it
asciilifeform: running more than one user app simultaneously was introduced in ver. 4 i think.
kakobrekla: this thing was introduced in the later models only ?
asciilifeform: this, according to the dev manual, is to save battery charge.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i recall, it uses an evil semi-cooperative task scheduler for user apps (vs system daemons) where 'non-essential' threads are suspended
decimation: the capability to shrink dies has far outstripped the capability to design logic to exploit the new possibility space
mircea_popescu: then why does everything stop the moment it goes to background ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but apple's first version of os didn't support user task switching
mircea_popescu: it's the end of that accursed law, we can get back to humanity for a while.
BingoBoingo: Architectures are about to get exotic again
decimation: yeah these features are ~30 Si atoms in size, not surprising that photo-lithography is failing
RagnarDanneskjol: from what i understand, @ 16-14nm existing foundry tools just don't cut it (literally) to get any effective performance yield
mircea_popescu: decimation yeah it was kinda dead in the water 14nm
nubbins`: now if only you could get rid of the pingbacks ;D
mircea_popescu: Flerb it's to oppress people.
Flerb: Why is this necessary? Was there a lot of spam?
assbot: Intel Outlines 14nm, Broadwell | EE Times
decimation: also of mild interest: http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1323476 << seems intel isn't delivering 14 nm for anything important in the near future
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i made the conditions less draconic.
mircea_popescu: everything is a trade.
nubbins`: this can be for trades, for back rubs, for business dealings, etc
nubbins`: ratings are for trust
Flerb: But ratings surely are for trades?
mircea_popescu: so, yeah, you need ratings from the people that are in the magic list.
mircea_popescu: Flerb i linked you above to the explanation. did you read it ?
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Flerb: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Flerb | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Flerb | Rated since: never
nubbins`: step two:
nubbins`: you need to be in assbot's trust network in order to voice yourself
Flerb: So do I need OTC ratings to talk?
mircea_popescu: well that'd do it then.
nubbins`: i do occasionally write up comments in a text editor & paste em in
mircea_popescu: and other than that, it looks that you took at least a few seconds to type your comment in
mircea_popescu: (bots don't load the page on the same pass as they fill the comments - they use spiders, like google)
mircea_popescu: not a secret, i even published the code.
dignork: nubbins`: are you running over tor?
mircea_popescu: well this sucks.
nubbins`: sometimes takes like 3-4 tries
nubbins`: i try to be as non-robotty as possible, but.. shrug
mircea_popescu: nubbins` srsly that bad ?
dignork: and what's with the hammer?
mircea_popescu: what, is he reduced to shoe on head type of work now ?
nubbins`: i have about 50% success posting comments to trilema
mircea_popescu: oh the neobee shill ?
mircea_popescu: who's that ?
trixisowned: just got banned for posting that in #bitcoin
dignork: Oh well, it's actually a feature, made me to reevaluate the fanciness and give up :)
mircea_popescu: if you reloaded and instapasted that'd be why.
dignork: ah, yes, possibly i was idling on a page, but then i reloaded, and it still didn't like me
BingoBoingo: dignork: Did you take to long to write it?
mircea_popescu: dignork it looks for you to actually load the page, and not fill in too quickly.
dignork: mircea_popescu: I tried to leave some fancy comment on Trilema, but php told me I'm unhuman, how did it know?
mircea_popescu: on the street.
mircea_popescu: sounds like the perfect party to host a pretend-win media party.
asciilifeform: so it was never entirely clear to me why it exists, other than the fact that it wants to and the bezzlatron decrees it
asciilifeform: altera is more or less the 'worst of all worlds' - considerably poorer gate density, shoddier linux toolchain support, and not really winning on price either
asciilifeform: decimation: xilinx and altera both make tightly 'closed' chips, for reasons discussed in agonizing detail earlier
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the prepended dpb is actually fucking clever. how do you do it ? this must be a standard, ima put it on trilema too.
mircea_popescu: <Flerb> I've not seen bticointalk << where you from then ?
mircea_popescu: <dpb_reddit> So, is this webchat legitimate? Or do people just question the person trying to hire lol << aka "herpyderp I know shit, and don't want to adjust. everyone else must adjust to my stupid head. or else i will say the bad thing!!!1"
kakobrekla: only then for the light of truth to be extinguished by kako, upon tunnel entrance