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decimation: I mean of the rig you rented
BingoBoingo: decimation: Before or after I rented this?
decimation: BingoBoingo: what was the hashrate?
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is that possible, i dun see him
mircea_popescu: ;;seen thickasthieves
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.55 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
BingoBoingo: The rig advertises 1.4, but it's been reporting ~1.32-1.55, not very stable this beast
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how much didja pay for the 8 hours ?
BingoBoingo: Both happened after I fired this thing up and the pool's previous hash was 0.03 Th/s
dignork: BingoBoingo: for 8 hours run i'm not sure it's worth it, but it's actually pretty easy to set a temp stratum server, and point miners there.
BingoBoingo: I think just whatever altcoin person running pools that found Altcoin on the forum first
mircea_popescu: tho thinking about it i dun recall who's running coinminer
dignork: BingoBoingo: it's normal, you get payouts delayed, protection mechanism to avoid pool hopping or w/e
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.65 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't bother with a pool for atc tbh
mircea_popescu: so you don't get any credit for what you find, merely for the hashes.
BingoBoingo: So far for contributing 99%+ of the hash that solved 2 blocks I recieved... 24 ATC... P2Pool powered pools are weird
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo anyway the idea of a pool is that you share your stuff
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> hey that's enough to keep a guy afloat in bsas for a few months at least << the theory that doge is worth dollars, as in over 1, is still lulzy.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> decimation: I just did rent X hash for Y time and pointed it at a pool. Have no idea how the pool figures payouts << you mining atc or btc ?
ben_vulpes: nanotube: ^^ you probably know about this one but have a bit of disclosure anyways
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
benkay: well there's a neat little hole in gribble
ben_vulpes: well that was anticlimactic
gribble: Sent 2 days, 2 hours, and 53 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> fap to this http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_eye/2014/08/12/the_sec_s_antimodern_logo_evokes_southern_tradition_authenticity.html
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for aldur1, benkay, birdman, bitcodernoob, coinfire, D-Dimer, davetherave, dotcoin, eggbot, everyone, jcpham, Kingdom, mariogrip, mexual, mike_c, netsplit, nubbins, pete_dushenki, randywaterhouse, Retro, RetroUpriser, Rozal, the, ThickasTheives, thickasthieves, TimSwanson, trustedcoinhu, tysat, vexual, and yotagada.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39zKhsT5naI&list=RDCwrIXCItNgs#t=63
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39zKhsT5naI&list=RDCwrIXCItNgs#t=63
ben_vulpes: hey that's enough to keep a guy afloat in bsas for a few months at least
BingoBoingo: decimation: I just did rent X hash for Y time and pointed it at a pool. Have no idea how the pool figures payouts
BingoBoingo: Well, this is ATC if that makes any difference
Blazedout419: Every new miner sold will not likely ROI or turn a profit...yet they sell out over and over
decimation: mining returns about 25 satoshis per megahash per day, prices start at 28.5 satoshi per megahash per day for daily terms...
decimation: yeah all of those miners except one would lose the tenant money (mining bitcoin) ... one wonders if there are 'other motivations' to mine...
BingoBoingo: Am I paying off ancient debts this pool owes to its loyal miners and all of their 0.03 Terahash?
BingoBoingo: WHY is this pool paying me change when my hash is finding blocks!!! Mining is a scam!!!
Blazedout419: BingoBoingo no idea..people love to speculate
Blazedout419: I need to move my miners and rent them out...pays a lot more
Blazedout419: we about to see 200TH?!?!
Blazedout419: wow all the 50TH are rented now
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.39 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
BingoBoingo: Blazedout419: I guess this rent a rig can work
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.83 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.36 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.18 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I think of moldbug's post on hubristic user interfaces when I think of bad UI
decimation: hopefully we can be on the same gasenwagen to the sharashka then ascii :)
asciilifeform: re: user interface << a 'clean ui' doesn't mean what people often think it means. e.g. a lathe has three knobs. what could be simpler. and yet.
asciilifeform: if 'wisdom is getting on the train one day before everybody else' (TM) - folly is 'trying to get on the train exactly one day before everybody else.'
decimation: maybe you think you can 'time' the arrival of the NKVD
decimation: in some states the electric rates might be competitive, but then you pays your taxes...
decimation: heh. what they don't 'fairly' compare is the cost of transacting business in usd
mircea_popescu: i look forward to the day random derps all over the us can't afford internet derpage anymore because bitcoin competition has made electricity too expensive.
decimation: some environmental concern troll should write a blog about how asic mining will make the blockchain green, because it will be more thermally efficient
Blazedout419: that is probably the best route for it
Blazedout419: they have a web interface to add pools etc..
Blazedout419: mircea_popescu you just rent and point them where you want
mircea_popescu: Blazedout419 do they do custom jobs tho ?
Blazedout419: never seen any rentals at the 1 PH rate though lol
decimation: asciilifeform: no, that's a complaint about the gpg user interface
asciilifeform: decimation: that's nothing to do with 4880
decimation: it seems to me that the cli for signing subkeys is less straightforward than it could be as well
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
decimation: asciilifeform: I presume you are going to dump support for useless cryptos and compressions, etc?
assbot: [MySQL] Bitcoin Database Hacked - more than 4500 emails/pass free - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/KaWsDgdq << lulzy. what's with all the colors ?
mircea_popescu: no argument there's a lot of useless crud in there.
asciilifeform: decimation: one can - and i do - disregard the useless crud
asciilifeform: decimation: it's pretty simple, at least with regard to the basics
decimation: asciilifeform: do you think that this protocol could be made to be more simple?
asciilifeform: (no, it isn't sold in dead tree, make your own if you must)
decimation: ah yeah that's what I want thanks
asciilifeform has a well-thumbed hardbound copy of this thing next to keyboard
decimation: asciilifeform: do you know of a document that gives a detailed description of the innards of gpg file formats etc?
decimation: "what part is complex [of pgp]" << when I do a gpg --list-packets --verbose < pubkey I find much that I desire to be documented
mircea_popescu: yeah, most of them had enough sense to get in the wot. kinda my point there.
asciilifeform: and not a few of the best gestapo folks ended up in stasi, etc.
asciilifeform: anyone who worked for the tsar in any capacity, 20 years diging ice << nah. most of them (including herr dzugashvili...) just got a new krysha.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: veterans just neatly paste the pgp in the email body << wait, vs. what ?
ben_vulpes has also forgotten the results
ben_vulpes has estimated the roi on renting hashes for atc
asciilifeform wonders how much atomic dirigible is to rent
BingoBoingo wonders how much a Petahash is to rent...
mircea_popescu: this thing needs some support.
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
mircea_popescu: speaking of specialised hardware, anyone got a box somewhere they want to rent me ?
BingoBoingo swears the only thing worse than netsplits is netreunions
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I've been following his forum trolling a bit, some decent reads
mircea_popescu: anyone read teh derpreport in question ?
BingoBoingo: The slavegirls mounting a rescue op to reverse-extradite
BingoBoingo: In mean those drones with their extradition bombs and all that jazz
dpb_twitter: dpb is pwning the forums with his #derpreport
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Doping your drink in London though might be the USG's one chance to try to rape you for a change
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol yeah, ~that's~ totally happening.
mircea_popescu: people think best with a written record, i find.
mircea_popescu: i hate london, and why do you think a pub somewhere'd be a better venue ?!
usg_press_machin: mircea_popescu if you're ever in London drop a line. Would be happy to thrash this out over a beer sometime.
gribble: Malpidity | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/04/malpidity/>; The Idiocrats | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/05/the-idiocrats/>; BingoBoingo | Bingo Blog: <http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/author/bingoboingo/>
usg_press_machin: Agree to disagree on the last point.
mircea_popescu: the problem now is that government has no further reason to exist and no means of supporting itself.