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mircea_popescu: well let's see. suppose you have a wol game table.
asciilifeform: how's that
asciilifeform: this is, admittedly, merely a plausible - if fantastic - hypothesis. but one admitted by the known facts. -- like the nonphysical solution to a quadratic.
jurov: so now we know what stan's fapping to
asciilifeform: the strings, in this hypothetical narrative, are pulled by another master - one of disinfo, whose purpose would then consist of shielding the former greybeard.
jurov: but you imply he needs to pull strings in addition to that
asciilifeform: jurov: the hypothetical master doesn't need to. he just sorta sits there quietly and bakes pills against rsa; creates diddled but internationally-appealing block ciphers; etc
jurov: how would the graybearded dude be able even remotely comprehend all the intelligence?
asciilifeform: (they, if i recall, were actually on the right track, unlike germany)
asciilifeform: aye. sorta like the japanese version of 'manhattan project'
mircea_popescu: imagine if you went to hibernate like a bear, and when you came through all your shit was broken and unresponsive.
mircea_popescu: the sadest fate in the world would be for such a set to exist, ina bunker somewhere.
jurov: that falls into mastermind definition too, you know
asciilifeform: jurov: perhaps i implied that a literal 'lizard king' lives. this is not a necessary hypothesis for a cryptologically-strong usa
jurov: is there a historical example of such a mastermind?
mircea_popescu: the gods shall strike us down thing is mere eschatology.
mircea_popescu: it somewhat shares the fate of "frustration" in the hands of popidiocy. but outside of what the reddit horde thinks, frustration is a major psychological process, the fundament of all volitive activity.
mircea_popescu: no, that's hermetism.
asciilifeform: it will make itself known, presumably, if it advances to the front line and 'fires' - but wouldn't it be great to know -before- ?
asciilifeform: for proper mysticism, the hidden side must be deemed 'unknowable'
mircea_popescu: the notion that there exists an unseen reality behind the seen reality, whether right or wrong, is the very substance of mysticism.
asciilifeform: when the apparent column is so suggestive of 'ablative' cannon fodder tactic.
asciilifeform: nothing mystical about thinking like a proper armchair general and pondering the strength of the hidden column of enemy
mircea_popescu: i foresee that when you;ll be old you'll write a great kids book.
mircea_popescu: you're possibly the most mystically inclined engineer i know.
asciilifeform: let's say 'reptilian king' or the like.
asciilifeform searches for a better term, involving puppets and strings
mircea_popescu: that's a contradiction in terms don't you know.
mircea_popescu: so that people couldn't like, you knoiw, steal his selfies from his plaintext gmail acct ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let me put it some other way. wouldn't you expect that if mp is conversant in pgp, so would be obama ?
asciilifeform: at the risk of sounding like anatoliy golitsyn (infamous fellow who insists, even today, that ussr faked its own death) - the available, afaik, evidence suggests either terrible - or incredibly good - cryptology
diana_coman: mod6 thank you!
BingoBoingo: ^ Oh no, not BTC too!!!
mircea_popescu: you'll find much less pituitary cells in a random biopsy than muscle tissue
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not necessarily. the inventor, of, say, 'joseki' is probably long dead - but a small army of monkeys (engineers, sw/hw production staff, auditors, etc) have access to 'the goods' - and they aren't leaking either.
mircea_popescu: the stuff you want to know about, three people know. unless one of them is the source, it's not leaking.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the stuff that was leaked so far mostly follows the "brain percentage" criterion.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu great, thanks
mircea_popescu: diana_coman no time limit. you post an address.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu how do I get my crafting prize and is there a time limit for that (to know how much time I have to figure out the basics of altcoin)?
asciilifeform: but in all seriousness, a leak history that favours tedious operational garbage and entirely omits the good stuff suggests 'hangout'
asciilifeform: if wishes were atomic dirigibles, beggars would rain thermonuclear hell upon their enemies.
asciilifeform wants to know wtf is in 'suite A' (http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323), how AES drips key bits, etc.
asciilifeform returns, every time he thinks about any of this, to the Great Mystery of why our beloved phriends never, ever leak anything interestingly cryptological
mircea_popescu: right now, this is faster than blockchain propagation. Basically, it will be amazingly difficulty for the coin to agree on a valid chain, because there will be any number of chains that are almost the same length.
mircea_popescu: For those that are unaware, Unattanium is a newish limited-number-of-coins SHA coin. They've recently had to fork the chain, because the difficulty calculations were broken, and it went far too high. Sadly, they've now broken it in the other direction, and the dev seems intent on ignoring this, and abusing or hand-waving the problems away. It's now running at an 8 second block time. For everyone who is NOT facepalming
asciilifeform: ^ re: the conundrum of why a private has 'the keys'
asciilifeform: thus they have issues with quis custodiet ipsos custodes
mircea_popescu: by its very nature aryan-ism has to be universal.
asciilifeform: they gave him the keys << the anglos have a historic problem, in that they never invented политрукs
mircea_popescu: you're trying to sell this conceptual model where in alt-nazi germany one can be hung for being a jew ONLY IF working as a clerk.
mircea_popescu: but... they gave him the keys.
asciilifeform: i think they even removed the age limits recently
asciilifeform: enlist a tranny << slightly different dynamic there. any street scum can enlist as a private
mircea_popescu: orly. how did they manage to enlist a tranny then ?
asciilifeform: american military tradition borrows heavily from the brits
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's provably false : if they did, you'd know what the definition of aryan is.
asciilifeform favours crackpot theory: the seekrit skvirels prefer to enlist 'pure blood aryans' and this is a painful constraint for them
asciilifeform: i bet that eth dump could've bought some talent.
mircea_popescu: mod6 he has 6 of em. they're rated 280ish to 310ish ea
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because they can't afford to pay smart people enough.
asciilifeform: like the mythical einsatzgruppen kommando loading blank shells.
asciilifeform: almost enough to believe that the author is secretly on the side of the forces of good - i.e. he isn't genuinely trying to fool anyone
asciilifeform: still boggling mind at the newest pgp hatchet job. why the idiocy? or rather, why was it not cushioned in perfectly logical criticism of the spec (crufty; mandates support for hideously weak algos; etc) ?
mircea_popescu: and of course the spec is a gnarly pos. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon3 anywhere from 310 to 410 w per o.o
mod6: ok thx.
mod6: I guess I could just put a line in there to set the % est. diff change to -75% of less than that number is received from the source.
mircea_popescu: yeah well that link doesn't have avalon 3 blades
X-Rob: anyway, toodles 8-)
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: use the link I pasted
X-Rob: and the kids are now up and want to play minecraft on the laptop
mircea_popescu: so like 2.269 satoshi/day or did i just broke the maths ?
X-Rob: I'm actually away at my inlaws this weekend
mircea_popescu: now what was that,
assbot: xrobau Reputation thread.
X-Rob: I have a reputation thread
mircea_popescu: yes but that's not how this thing works.
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mircea_popescu: X-Rob well, i dun know em, i dun trust em, and we have a similar problem : you're not in the wot.
X-Rob: nah, I just rent my gear through there
mircea_popescu: is laserig your thing ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu and all other 'trinitron' aficionados: when you get the inevitable tube fade, do you boost the electron gun voltage? or bite the bullet and somehow conjure up a new (!) tube ?
X-Rob: We can do it all through leaserig so you can control where it points
X-Rob: I'm happy to lease for that
X-Rob: Link's too long
kakobrekla: if there isnt a significant discount you are better off to rehire every diff change hehe
mircea_popescu: but i guess the lower one would work. how'd you feel about a longer term deal ? willing to move on the price a little ?
mircea_popescu: something like that.
X-Rob: That's meant to be 13, but a couple of S2s are running slow
mircea_popescu: anyway, so it's either the 1.2 or the 12.7 rig ?
mircea_popescu: X-Rob so just like mpoe-pr, two years later.
X-Rob: however, you can look through my bct ('xrobau') profile for me trying to argue with idiots. I gave up, however.
mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?q=unattanium+scamcoin&complete=0&gws_rd=ssl << i like it when .lk outranks tardstalk
X-Rob: (that was the correct answer)
X-Rob: Let's just leave it like that then
mircea_popescu: what shitstorm was that ?
mircea_popescu: lol totally.
X-Rob: However, full disclosure, etc, I'm the guy who caused all that shitstorm with that new unattainum scamcoin
mircea_popescu: aite, so you got some hash to rent out ?