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usagi: I have about 20oz or so lying around belonging
to others
usagi: The deal with
TU.SILVER is
the same as with BMF. It never wanted
to close, but it did because
the exchange folded. In
TU.SILVER's case, we were a depository. So
there are still a few customers who have not requested
their silver
usagi: Well basically I ran
Tu.SILVER on bitfunder, and when bitfunder closed down I had
to ship everyone
their silver
usagi: I don't
think you're cutting me a fair deal.
That's also fair in a way, I can't make you like me. But don't waste my
time kay
usagi: I'm getting
the funny feeling you are insinuating I've been scamming without actually knowing what went on
TheNewDeal: what happened, if you could give me
the
tldr
usagi: Well I ran
TU.SILVER, BMF, etc.
usagi: TheNewDeal; Hmm, well I don't really follow
the securities forum anymore
usagi: I've been busy. But
today is a big day :)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: im not discussing
the millions of
txn
that get misfired on
the ccs.
ben_vulpes: perhaps an academic distinction, but
the people misfire all
the
time
mircea_popescu: total btc payments
that didn't go where
they were supposed
to or got lost
to date ? 0.
mircea_popescu: here's an element of risk : visa misplaces something
to
the
tune of 1k payments EACH MONTH.
TheNewDeal: I wonder if someday
these people will be forced into understanding, or continue
to be galavanting neurosis
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, bitcoin is flawless and nobody needs
to do anything whatsoever
mircea_popescu: mad props for reducing
the whole story
to
the familiar form of
the ron paul debate
tho. "the flaws in bitcoin" and "people do
things"
mircea_popescu: "i have no
trust in government and anything not
the government is mean and bad."
mircea_popescu: "i like saying
that racism is bad
to
try and score chicks and i hate niggers and spics."
mircea_popescu: his faith in govt is 0% yet
things not in
the govt add a huge element of risk.
mircea_popescu: "My
trust in government is roughly 0% ...
the problem is my faith in people and companies
to get over
their fear of government and change
the status quo is also 0%. For
that reason, even if
the flaws in Bitcoin could be resolved,
the fact
that it exists outside of
the government's control of
the financial sector adds a huge element of risk. "
TheNewDeal: seems like I'm getting meh reviews. On with
the HG Wells
then
mod6: that was pretty funny. i just had gotten started in eulora, and hadn't figured out how
to pick anything up yet. so i
tried
to fight it.
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.45
TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0
TH/s
ben_vulpes: <mike_c> step 1: make OTP like gribble so i can curl it << i'm leaning more
towards a gpg-encrypted api;
that is
to say, curl -X POST -d file_with_signcrypted_order_blob.txt api.van-ads.com/v1/drinkingrecord/buy
TheNewDeal: didn't even
think of
that. Was a joke nonetheless
TheNewDeal: so far what I have learned from A Few
Thoughts on Cryptographic Engineering: long keys are unsightly, shrink
them down
to a size
that can be visually verified by a human
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.42
TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.49
TH/s
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ben_vulpes: i still have
to prioritize all
the possible
things
to do
mike_c: well isn't
that what we're
talking about?
ben_vulpes: still, i have
to polish
this ball of mud
to
the point where people besides our little cult will
throw money at it, and other people are willing
to put its ads on
their sites first.
mike_c: feature suggestion: given
text ads, simple parameters, an api would be nice.
mike_c: 2 hour donation
to vanads.
mike_c: ok,
that one is my fault.
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mike_c: so logged in again,
then it worked.
mike_c: i was on venue page. logged in separate
tab.
then clicked 'purchase ads'
ben_vulpes: mike_c: do you recall
the sequence of pages
that you hit?
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mircea_popescu: exactly a la neobee and it's
take over cypruss paper-only revolution.
mircea_popescu: i would submit
they're past
their prime and
the what has already been heard of
them is
the most
that'll ever be heard of
them.
mircea_popescu: cazalla "People like Vitalek who spout off at
the mouth are going in
the wrong direction and
taking you with
them, making
themselves richer and you poorer in
the process." what's more,
the you+them sum is also poorer. but yeah.
mircea_popescu: this is why you split codebases into
things a person can handle.
midnightmagic: working on a codebase of sufficient size is not reasonably doable for a single person, even if
that person is working full-time.
Temporarily divergent codebases similar
to, e.g. NetBSD and OpenBSD, are an excellent example of
the fruits of multiple, medium-sized groups working on partially-divergent codebases who
together created more in a cohesive whole
than either group did on
their own.
mircea_popescu: <midnightmagic> ehh.. a brainstorming group of people can generate and
then refine, an idea faster
than a singular person working alone if
the idea is complex. << statement doth not equal proof.
midnightmagic: decimation: how
to represent changes in
the blockchain reasonably securely without having
the entire blockchain available, for example
midnightmagic: ehh.. a brainstorming group of people can generate and
then refine, an idea faster
than a singular person working alone if
the idea is complex. see BIP32 for example, which is
the idea of one or
two people, but was furthered and fleshed out by more
than one.
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mike_c: wtf,
twoplustwo is
talking about ethereum now??
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: ok, when
this lease is over, it should automatically switch over
to
that pool.
decimation: yeah, mythical man month and all
that.
mircea_popescu: two are usually plenty, just gotta find
the right
two.
mircea_popescu: no noteworthy advance in cryptography has ever - in
three
thousand recorded years -
the work of a group of five people, let alone
ten
BingoBoingo wonders is "creative locksmithing" is a
thing
midnightmagic: creative cryptography is
the only
thing
that will scale us. :(
midnightmagic: i agree at
that level. :) I'm
talking five-ten people.
mircea_popescu: losing sight of
this basic concept is part of what makes
the power rangers so retarded.
mircea_popescu: cooperation is
the bane of small anything.
the reason afghanistan is stil a state whereas
the united kingdom is a us dependency has everything
to do with
the mutual hostility of small groups of afghans.
that aside, very little creative work is required or indeed desired in
this soup.
midnightmagic: we need more of
those
that can act as full nodes minus mining
midnightmagic: but I'm glad
they have an alternative implementation running and syncing.
midnightmagic: setting side
the superior net work
that cooperating small groups can produce, if
they did in fact come up with
those ideas
their hostility for other people "stealing"
them would perhaps be a
tad more warranted.
midnightmagic: fwiw, conformal's btcd segfaults if you sprinkle a forced garbage collection in
the wrong place (wtf?), it built a block which some portion of
testnet rejected and built a massive fork on over a period of a week, eventually crashing bitcoind (which perhaps suggests
that it was btcd's own mining code
that created
the fork) and
they keep
taking credit for other peoples' ideas with a
tremendous amount of completely unnecessary
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: ok I found a block, you should see at least one
transaction against
that account ID
decimation: good, perhaps from
this effort some documentation will rise
decimation: what about
those guys writing
the altnerative implementation? did
they get
their version working?
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 8.62
TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0
TH/s
mircea_popescu: yeah, a year after i had been beating
them over
the head at every
turn
to fucking do it for like a year BEFORE
that.
ThickAsThieves: i remember when
they forked, and
there was outcry for documentation after
decimation: that's a depressing conversation.
THey would have a point of reference if someone actually documented
the protocol.
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: fyi, just running a
test of
the big rig against
that pool
mircea_popescu: eventually outperforming
the "scientists" and "foundations" and whatnot ?
mircea_popescu: decimation aren't you impressed with
two idiots
that don't even know wtf version
they cloned
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mircea_popescu: in
this sense atc appreciating against btc is quite a negative signal for
the power rangers.
mircea_popescu: decimation more a witness. "so what is
the net benefit of all your monkeying ? what doom have you avoided, what riches brought on ?"
mircea_popescu: so here is a "witness" bitcoin, v 0.6 and
there is your "improved" 0.10 (lulzy
that it's not 1.0 anymoar)
☟︎