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mircea_popescu: one day he got really spunky, and his three bear wives ran off in this peculiar manner of females whose cunt is sore.
mircea_popescu: mkay. so in th forest there lived this very horny, huge schlong bear. sort of like one eye pete of the beardom. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> enemy might be covered in magical armour, but he still has, presumably, a visor << this reminds me, you know the horny bear joke ?
asciilifeform: collapse of mega-empires and even pre-collapse deterioration of industrial base tends to favour a return to classical arms, however.
asciilifeform: there's the 'city meatgrinder' style of warfare
mircea_popescu: it won'tr come down to who has many people that can and will fire a rifle.
mircea_popescu: it's just... you know that no modern war will be won by small arms fire. like if the uys and china went at each other
asciilifeform: but one nitpick - the 'self-aiming rifle' (one variant recently exhibited) could be an interesting gotcha
asciilifeform: small arms are a dead trope >> i recall a thread re: armour and the obsolescence of small arms
mircea_popescu: small arms are a dead trope as it were.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, a lot happened in terms of "market trials" on subjects such as "Full" v "intermediate" power rounds and ideal caliber at any power
asciilifeform: departures from tradition - e.g. 'caseless shell' - were suggested, but no one bothered to reduce to practice afaik
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i find it interesting that nothing principally new happened in small arms for almost a century. (curios like 'gyrojet' excepted)
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BingoBoingo: I find reading about these things interesting because of the engineering and implementation issues raised. Like last night's electrolytic machining discussion.
asciilifeform is armchair general, if ever contributed to decent military discussion - purely by accident.
BingoBoingo: Yes, thank you.
BingoBoingo: What was that word for "the big jail"
BingoBoingo: Oh there are cheapos in the actual caliber
asciilifeform was informed re: the ubiquitous photos of gurlz posing with 'fancy m16' - typically it is the .22 cheapo variety.
BingoBoingo: You can get copper plated, but yeah. Fouling is an issue. Thankfully the solution instills good habits
asciilifeform: folks who spend a good deal of time at target practice complain about the fouling (no jacket.)
mod6: yea, cheap & easy to shoot.
asciilifeform: .22 seems to be a caliber wildly popular in usa - likely, solely on account of cost. a few cents each.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But the chamber in the standard 5.56x45mm barrel is wider to accomodate all that case. Unless the very cheap want a sleeve to solve that dimensional disparity at risk to limb...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i vaguely recall these were advertised as using the old barrel
BingoBoingo: Nothing to do with caliber, in the AR/M-16 style rifle the entire upper switches out with the removal of pins and replacement of bolt carrier springs. As long as the new caliber round is no longer than 45mm it works.
asciilifeform: so the above isn't really about them
asciilifeform: mod6: police snipers (like any other) traditionally use bolt-action rifles of the 19th c. variety
mod6: yeah, you got nothin over 100m with that though. fine for qcb, but how are you supposed to reach out and touch someone in the field?
BingoBoingo: More total purchases = Greater Bezzel
asciilifeform: if i recall, these are a plug-in part (no machining required)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the .22 (for non-usians, the familiar 'olympic' caliber) rifle is also explained by cost: roughly 1/2 - 1/3 of a 'proper' m16. low pressure round, can use garbage metals. << In police department purchasing general practice is buying actual M-16 type and them getting .22LR uppers to go with them
asciilifeform: the .22 (for non-usians, the familiar 'olympic' caliber) rifle is also explained by cost: roughly 1/2 - 1/3 of a 'proper' m16. low pressure round, can use garbage metals.
asciilifeform: .22LR is sometimes talked on in police circles as an acceptable "escalation" from rubber << old tradition in usa. e.g. http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/american-10-e.html
asciilifeform: helium... welding tools and rocket fuel << in welding, processes like TIG, etc. in rocket? what was author smoking?
asciilifeform: Hindenburg << would've probably died 'natural' death of most other dirigibles (wind. wonder where the u.s. ones went?) if not for the nitrocellulose envelope.
kdomanski: the Internet tells me Westboro Baptist Church is in neither of these states
BingoBoingo offer merely rumours and inuendo in supposing S IN might have such things
BingoBoingo: If there is one thing Southern Illinois has over Southern Indiana its that.
BingoBoingo: I'm and the places in the US I consider traveling before my eventual exodus all seem to be upwind of those problems
kdomanski: if you don't live too close
kdomanski: mircea_popescu: claimable by someone who knows exactly what they are doing, but not by a bunch of hillbillies
mod6: you'd think they would want to destroy those and the nukes. but they won't, because they can't see the forest through the trees.
mod6: either way. same thing happened in the ussr iirc.
mod6: or sold off by .mil guys trying to cash in
kdomanski: mod6: when the usg falls I hope it's caches of chemical weapons are secure
mod6: shoots pretty much like the 16 or ar15/m16
mod6: the 417? na, its got a recoil sprint in the stock-tube.
mircea_popescu: isn't the recoil pretty bad on that ?
mod6: just think of all the toys that'll be avaliable. =D
mod6: when the usg falls, i'll be buyin!
mod6: i shot one of those rugers with the integrated supressor once, it was hilarious, made no sound at all other than the action.
BingoBoingo: Right, but the large caliber stuff looks cool and costs money.
mod6: haha, i was just about to say, i want this one: https://www.lesbaer.com/PresGrade.html
kdomanski: today they gold-plate .45 guns and carry them around for show
mod6: i shot a thompson once, was great :)
mircea_popescu: no wait, in the 20s it was bb pellets. what do you think thompson fires ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It was in the 20's
mircea_popescu: dude im missing out on the party. i thought gangland was mostly 45
BingoBoingo: kdomanski_: In Missouri you can buy them without an NFA provided it was manufactered in Missouri
kdomanski_: BingoBoingo: they're actually popular for gang hits, because it's trivial to make an effective supressor for them
BingoBoingo: The small rimfire calibers though still kill plenty of people in the city (cheap effective enough if trying)
BingoBoingo: But if those assault rifles are mostly for looks and fitted with .22lr uppers could contribute to the explanation for why the cop got trigger happy
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well no updates on the confinscated bullet
mircea_popescu: and just go with that.
mircea_popescu: "your honor, i was protecting the public"
mircea_popescu: would be kinda cool if the next few crowd shooters adopt this strategy as the maximal damge game theoretic solution.
BingoBoingo: .22lr can do interesting things, but also explains why headshot protester girl lived http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f33/polar-bear-kill-54763/
BingoBoingo: Sounds like the mindest on their blogs
mircea_popescu: he was "protecting the public".
mircea_popescu: i bet you if you asked the whole complement of us police it'd be their honest estimation that in their absence the whole population would simply die overnight.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo gotta admire the mindframe these grunts get into.
mircea_popescu: “It was havoc at that time. He also got urine thrown on him, having to deal with that is obviously disgusting,” Jiminez said. “However, when he‘s trying to protect the public and asking people to back up, under no circumstances do I, or our department, condone his language.”
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wlel they don't really do anything.
BingoBoingo: ( .22LR is sometimes talked on in police circles as an acceptable "escalation" from rubber"
assbot: Officer who threatened to kill protester in Ferguson suspended | KMOV.com St. Louis
BingoBoingo: reeses: Protestor with the confinscated head bullet http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/Officer-who-threatened-to-kill-protester-in-Ferguson-suspended-272073421.html together with http://www.tacticalsol.com/ar-22-series-uppers/ar-22-sb-x seem like interest wild conspiracy stuff.
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00064114 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: they burn helium nao dontchaknow. better than water.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mostly remarkable for "Russia, already the largest producer of crude oil and natural gas, is weighing up plans to become the biggest supplier of helium, the inert gas vital for medical scanners, welding tools and rocket fuel, as the U.S. sells reserves from storage."
mircea_popescu: good to know the us govt is in some way related to every modern atrocity.
mircea_popescu: "The U.S. government had a world monopoly on helium and in the mid-1930s refused to sell any to the Zeppelin Co. in Germany, which is why the Hindenburg was filled with highly-flammable hydrogen when it exploded."
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> H2 Airship is probably near the Platonic form of of cheap and angry << or in any case, a good rendition of a very large matchstick.
assbot: Russia Set to Top Helium Supply as U.S. Sells Reserve - Bloomberg
assbot: Bigger boobs tutorial- Dominika Myslivcov - YouTube
mircea_popescu: <jurov> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfwxCLAPKgs BIGGER BOOBS FOR ERRYONE << THANKS JUST WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!
mircea_popescu: i mean sure bits here and there in normal course of business, but that's about all.
mircea_popescu: an infinite supply of such examples is how the idea that normal people aren't entitled and shouldn't be entitled to an opinion came about.
mircea_popescu: in the moment they FEEL they're just like you. then later, they're no longer around to eat dirt, and if they are they won't eat the dirt anyway.
asciilifeform: dirt-cheap semiconductor leak detectors exist today, vs. 100 yrs ago
jurov: maybe silica aerogel filled with h2 could be used someday...it can be expected to not be explosive thanks to its thermal insulative properties
BingoBoingo: (soviet atomic dirigible would've probably flown with H2 from sea water. because cheap and angry.) << H2 Airship is probably near the Platonic form of of cheap and angry
pete_dushenski: now there's an idea for a comic strip!
ben_vulpes: falling knife, that day.
ben_vulpes: i remember buying some mpoe last time it was this low
asciilifeform: hell, from atmospheric vapours. (don't need much to top off the balonettes)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: partially - the u.s. monopoly on helium
pete_dushenski: or maybe mp dumped his own stock to buy bigger boobs to go with his raw salmon?
assbot: Bigger boobs tutorial- Dominika Myslivcov - YouTube