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mircea_popescu: ll of the young families who lost their homes or street after street of boarded up houses abandoned to the wealthy loan companies who received government funds to “shore up” their windfall. Again, I lost my retirement.
mircea_popescu: Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A. depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn’t need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern California, so they were closed; just like that. The result was economic devastation in the region that rivaled the widely publicized Texas S&L fiasco. However, because the government caused it, no one gave a shit about a
asciilifeform: (depends where you want to go)
asciilifeform: in principle, if you can piss atoms out, in direction opposite where they came from, with greater v - you move.
decimation: the most realistic "intergalactic travel" design that I'm aware of is the one that shits nukes every few minutes
asciilifeform inherited the little book from a job as student, where he had approximately the same relationship to ion engines as a farting cow has to the 'greenhouse effect'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well iirc that thing was predicated on proton-proton fusion
decimation: la wik recommends this book: "The Star Flight Handbook" for the math on the bussard design
asciilifeform: at any rate, w&l pedantically list every basic gyrostabilization gizmo, including the magnetic one, but nothing bussard-esque.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well in teh press. generally "ion engine" => intergallactic travel.
mircea_popescu: and they won't even need that much shielding .
mircea_popescu: but now... it's all better. so i guess in a few more decades only northeners will be fit to go on space missions
mircea_popescu: then it became an impossible near uv, far uv, ir etc horror, to the degree i couldn't even look at the daytime sky.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody wants to say this, for some reason << what? this is a schoolbook fact
mircea_popescu: and speaking of the upper atmosphere : i have had to extreme pleasure to encounter again the sun of my youth, down here. for the first fifteen or so years of my existence on earth, the sun was this warm, pleasant, narrow source.
mircea_popescu: this is the major application for ion engines, not space travel : mangement of the upper atmosphere. nobody wants to say this, for some reason.
mircea_popescu: at something like 100pa, all you need is to accelerate one ion in 100 to 100 times the average brownian speed.
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform wonders if this could even be carried out mechanically, with something like a wirbelrohr. << you'd need a good ion engine, actually.
decimation: presumably this would make the surface 'rough', and therefore increase friction. but now we are in the realm of highly non-linear fluid dynamics
asciilifeform: just make sure that all exposed surfaces are scoops.
asciilifeform: not strictly necessary to increase surface area.
assbot: Bussard ramjet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: heh yeah. it's close to this idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussard_ramjet
asciilifeform guesses that someone whose arse depends on the outcome crunched the numbers
decimation: friction opposes the extra thrust-mass
decimation: asciilifeform: the trouble is that you would have to increase surface area, and therefore drag, to operate such a collector
assbot: Magnetorquer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: asciilifeform: they definitely do use electromagnets to oppose the earth's magnetic field and generate thrust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_torquers
asciilifeform wonders if this could even be carried out mechanically, with something like a wirbelrohr.
asciilifeform: by no means a 'maxwell daemon', given as there is a power source (officially - photovoltaics; in practice - mini-reactor)
asciilifeform wonders if any of these machines were fitted with scoops. snarf up atmospheric gas, piss it out the accelerator tube (earthwise.) no need for on-board tank.
decimation: spending the $billions on a robot-mining-factory would have had much better roi than idiots floating in space
decimation: MIR was up for a long time; also with constant attention
decimation: I was reading antifragile earlier today.
mircea_popescu: then consider the sigma events.
decimation: indeed. the mind reels at the cost/benefit ratio
mircea_popescu: if it had to carry all its fuel it'd have collapsed years ago.
mircea_popescu: well the iss is not a closed system.
decimation: except they have constantly boost the orbit
decimation: well, the ISS is
mircea_popescu: decimation something that big can't be in leo anyway.
assbot: Advanced Extremely High Frequency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: re: satellite : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Extremely_High_Frequency << according to la wik, it is geosynchronous, not a leo
nubbins`: just printing a proof now on the inkjet, likely start pre-press in the next couple days
mircea_popescu: of course. there's a lot of power in disinterest.
asciilifeform: (long gone, incidentally. they got a new pr team.)
asciilifeform: like the old u.s. army ad, 'be an army of one.'
asciilifeform: there's a palpable 'if not you then who, if not now then when' flavour to the latter.
mircea_popescu: do you see the difference between some party declaring war (whether this is entirely in their own mind and an exercise in pure ridicule) and someone declaring jihad ?
asciilifeform: what gives the picture that he's part of something? and, what might this something e
mircea_popescu: and mike ocd is also part of something. whereas the austin guy clearly is not.
asciilifeform: this other picture, is that of a feral dog, who knows that the next stop is the soap boiler and carries on accordingly
asciilifeform: even the lowest stoolie is still, at least in his mind, 'part of something'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, the process through which girls become wives and us citizens usg informants.
asciilifeform: yes. that'd be it.
mircea_popescu: the only people that start throwing things are the people in a corner through a system they do not wish to continue in any circumstances.
mircea_popescu: people in a corner by ill fortune get depressed. people in a corner by misdeeds reprogram. people in a corner by having pissed off wrong people turn sluts.
mircea_popescu: im not sure that whether is valid in context.
asciilifeform: similar in that both attested to being 'in a corner' - whether by ill fortune, having pissed off wrong people, or some genuine misdeeds of whatever kind
assbot: here's the Manifesto of Joseph Stack -- "Mr. Big Brother IRS Man" - RE Austin plane crash - Democratic Underground
mircea_popescu: ok so what are the similarities between http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7740464 and article in question ?
gribble: Insane Manifesto Of Austin Texas Crash Pilot Joseph Andrew Stack: <http://www.businessinsider.com/joseph-andrew-stacks-insane-manifesto-2010-2>; here's the Manifesto of Joseph Stack -- "Mr. Big Brother IRS Man ...: <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7740464>; 2010 Austin suicide attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: i guess the j stack replica in my head flew a plane into part of my memory
mircea_popescu: well the two. you said they're similar.
mircea_popescu: i never read that guy, but i will take the challenge. show how.
asciilifeform: at any rate, they have the flavour of the work of a man who doesn't intend to live particularly long.
mircea_popescu: i can tell. no idea.
asciilifeform: but - how do we know that herr church is a coward?
mircea_popescu: "sammy j beats his wife regularly. johnny told his wife if she doesn't stop dressing like an out of work whore he'll beat her too. sammy is on trial for terrorism nao"
mircea_popescu: i was not seriously proposing that was what happened. i was merely illustrating the disproportion between what occurred and terrorism.
asciilifeform: everybody knows that one.
mircea_popescu: re : yes, it is true, except it wasn't ivan ivanovich but vladimir vladimirovich, it wasn't a bike but a car and it wasn't given but taken away
The20YearIRCloud: Of course, the greys were behind it
mircea_popescu: radio erevan answers! user : is it true that ivan ivanovich was given a bike ?
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't fill it
asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: according to the official story - it was.
mircea_popescu: im in the process of forcing a point.
mthreat: I wasn't terrorized
mthreat: He hit the building with the IRS investigators
mircea_popescu: were you terrorized ?
mthreat: I used to work in teh building next to the one he hit.
mircea_popescu: mthreat some guy got pissed off at irs, flew his radio airplane into a pole across the street.
mthreat: what's the 2010 Austin terrorist attack?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the broom dood. not the dog vomit moss.
mircea_popescu: do these people even know what terrorist means ?
mircea_popescu: "The 2010 Austin terrorist attack" dude for crying out loud.
asciilifeform: sure they do.
mircea_popescu: nah these cowardly pricks never kill anyone.
asciilifeform: seems like he's just pining for gasenwagen and yearns to hasten it
assbot: Silicon Valley and the Rise of the Disneypreneur | Michael O. Church
asciilifeform doesn't know this fellow, can't say for certain
assbot: I've written about it at length already and don't choose to relive it in detail,... | Hacker News
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: herr church: from his writings, it seems as if he started out as basically-functional human (maths type?) but then ended up in the si. valley garbage disposal and was mutilated there (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7340013)
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ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBFYTNXaP5U << the only acceptable listening for hacking aws automation
ben_vulpes: on track to*, and wave hands.
ben_vulpes: 175 impressions today alone
ben_vulpes: i'll clear that up. been noodling on good wording, have yet to come up with anything that feels *right*
ben_vulpes: it's a little wonky right now as i've yet to collect seven days of statistics