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asciilifeform: Naphex: there is no programming language called 'lisp', and there hasn't been since 1964 or so
williamdunne: Can't imagine that I have enough rep to do that yet, but its something I would be open to in the future
williamdunne: Its on a computer that hasn't touched the internet in a while so not worth the effort of moving it
decimation: asciilifeform: you didn't take one of the luxurious american airlines?
mircea_popescu: mike_c also, could "Timestamp" space be about 75% larger so it doesn't force double lines ?
blacktower: hello hello! just learning all of this, won't derp it up. glad to be a part of the community!
asciilifeform: and don't need browser-crypto for anything
mircea_popescu: isn't 8chan the bad one ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever played with a male.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, who is truly to say that reddit wouldn't hire pinkertons for $5.15 an hour
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 19:23:28; ben_vulpes: davout: aren't txids canonical after block inclusion?
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 19:15:24; funkenstein_: afaik hawala doesn't come with failsafe refunds in case somebody goes awol
mircea_popescu: that they don't has everything to do with the fact that swift consts nothing (and provides nothing). bitcoin costs something, and it provides something for that cost. in spades.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109683 << that, tied for preminence with "cleaning out the idiots". and i don't as much mean the random derps in the forum going about their usual derpage, as i mean people like the scam foundation, and the power rangers, and so on. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109668 << how do you know it won't have to be lowered ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109646 << i don't think so. it has an effect on its relevancy for mining, not on mining itself. ☝︎
trinque: like if you upload a logo to your payment page, you don't own that logo?
mircea_popescu: don't they give you a special dropper ?
trinque: there's no real reason why the db can't be involved in application logic
davout: trinque: nah, my point was that the rdbms-should-enforce-all-structure approach isn't very sensible, unless you're ok eventuall ending up with a spelling and grammar checker for your text fields
trinque: davout | well, you, just pushing that to the extreme to show that, even though i hardly ever use it, this unstructured nosql approach sometimes is useful, and isn't *inherently* evil like you seem to imply << there is no such thing as unstructured data, only a question of how rigorously structured it is, and what is used to enforce that.
ben_vulpes: davout: aren't txids canonical after block inclusion? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: either trust your counterparties and deal with them, or don't and don't.
funkenstein_: afaik hawala doesn't come with failsafe refunds in case somebody goes awol ☟︎
williamdunne: funkenstein_: Pretty much. I disagree with Gavin because it essentially makes the blocks infinitely large, but I disagree with some people here because 7tx/s doesn't even cover SWIFT payments
danielpbarron: that the network could still accidentally fork over a bug is the reason we aren't seeing billions and trillions invested into bitcoin
williamdunne: Pierre_Rochard: But also makes it less appealing. Security isn't the only objective
williamdunne: Pierre_Rochard: In fairness thats about the same as saying my internet speeds today aren't affecting my ability to do things, so it won't in the future.
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: i heard about these being sent out. didn't know they came pgp-signed!
assbot: Economic Fallacies and the Block Size Limit, part 1: Scarcity - B I T C O I N I S M ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCjVKa )
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Doesn't seem irrelevant when comparing subsets of the wider context
pete_dushenski: williamdunne: human skill and intelligence aren't on a gaussian distribution. average is meaningless in this context and by extension any relationship to it.
pete_dushenski: 'don't blame the bankers/jooz'
pete_dushenski: sea you see wasn't bad at all, i quite liked that line
mircea_popescu: doesn't this disparity seem scandalous ? whence the gall to "punish" a cia boss.
mike_c: re: empty comments, some ratings don't have a comment.
williamdunne: I still don;t understand who the hell would launch that from inside the US? Like srsly. Its not even opsec at this point, its just about not being goddam mentally handicapped
pete_dushenski: pretty sure the last one from trilema didn't come through
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski also in the news, you didn't send a pingback.
mircea_popescu: i can, this isn't.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you can't watch html5 video?
pete_dushenski: lol you dun understand how sad i was when i first scanned the logs for the post i published early early this morning/late last night... and it wasn't there
williamdunne: I'll be happy to fix it if it doesn't
williamdunne: Kinda pathetic if you've been intending to do something for a couple of years and it still hasn't happened (assuming the only constraint is time)
mircea_popescu: well at that time you couldn't tell what happened. for all you know, nano was usg-kidnapped.
BingoBoingo: jurov: Yeah. Then there's public servers that just suck. Laggy, don't always send updates, potential chance they could begin lying.
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: It used to be okay, I wouldn't want to use it now but did its job fine
jurov: BingoBoingo: if you don't mind server knowing your addresses, then it's fine. otherwise, i agree
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: I really don't see how people could use electrum without their own node/server (hug-e pain)
mircea_popescu: williamdunne explain how ? verification doesn't happen faster for having more nodes doing it.
williamdunne: Okay, so from a little reading it does seem that they keep the full unspent TX set. While they can't provide all the blocks to someone who wants everything from the genesis it does seem like a pretty big improvement to me - should see a lot more verifying nodes - no?
mircea_popescu: but considering the rest of the problems they have, to them it's minor, and to us... well we didn't care before, either.
mircea_popescu: there isn't anything particularly wrong with the approach, much like there isn't anything wrong with holding up a sign, or drinking a cup of coffee.
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Problem isn't the unspent tx set, it is the blocks
mircea_popescu: 'pruning' offers a guarantee that the node won't be able to offer you a block which contains all spent outputs.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well that may be because there isn't one.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109086 << that's the problem, it will make people think they';re running nodes who aren't. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 04:37:07; asciilifeform: what's next, we can't pick an optimal mains voltage ?
williamdunne: And syncing won't be too effected with headers first, although full sync I guess could take a little longer
williamdunne: I can't imagine it will remove many full nodes, just add some nodes
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: It could cause some people to start running full nodes who weren't otherwise, don't think it will make a huge difference
williamdunne: Scoopbot has resurfaced, https error came up which didn't have any error handling.
trinque: I'm far too sleepy to be calling things evil, don't see that anywhere
davout: well, you, just pushing that to the extreme to show that, even though i hardly ever use it, this unstructured nosql approach sometimes is useful, and isn't *inherently* evil like you seem to imply
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108536 <<< not always, it isn't really useful in most cases for your VARCHAR(255) to be aware of what the verb is your sentence ☝︎
asciilifeform: what's next, we can't pick an optimal mains voltage ? ☟︎
assbot: White House admits: we didn't know who drone strike was aiming to kill | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1OMMsyv )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The part where their userbase consists of so many accounts that haven't been used in years
mircea_popescu: why the fuck is it that people can't ever just you know, be wrong anymore ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "This guy is a rich bored misogynistic scumbag looking to stir shit up. This is CEO-level Trolling. What he's doing is technically legal, and even if it weren't, he has the money to keep it tied up in courts forever if not win outright. Unfortunately the worldwide legal system is run on money rather than justice, and Fetlife HAS tried to take appropriate legal action against him to no avail. This is yet anoth
ben_cash: also the 17" won't fit in my diplomat.
BingoBoingo: ben_cash: Isn't that why you usually change your irc_name
ben_cash: not worth 160 pesos for 375 mL, but hey. comprolo en el aeropeurto, can't complain-o
ben_cash: and you know? shit ain't bad.
mircea_popescu: usually driven by "but mo-ooo-ooom!!11 i don't wanna protect my underskirt, i wanna climb in the cherry tree!!1"
mircea_popescu: well, sure you can just invent yourself. people however... don't have to jack shit.
mircea_popescu: my life as a lonelier woman who hates herself. There's no winning. There's no way out. I'm sad enough already, I don't need my life to get any worse. People say "it gets better" but that isn't true in my case. It gets worse. Each day I get worse. That's the gist of it, that's why I feel like killing myself. Sorry if that's not a good enough reason for you, it's good enough for me."
fluffypony: he was one of 2 presenters that wasn't completely retarded
mircea_popescu: and even moar drama emerges. apparently this is pretty bitter, too : some feminists don't agree dudes can become women.
bitx: williamdunne, don't usually use this name - not associated with any other bitx's
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I think he doesn't like me calling him "Pedobear Pierce" on Disqus
Naphex: mircea_popescu: great! getting ready for launch on the last run. been busy as hell. how was the conference? sorry i couldn't make it :/
fluffypony wouldn't touch WordPress with a bargepole
hanbot: so what, that which can be frankensteined into working doesn't deserve to be made as a whole, from the start?
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I can't imagine it would ever become a problem for SQLserver, if it did we could just shard it like hell. Its not like it needs sub 1 second latency on everything
williamdunne: Can't imagine it would be all that write-heavy
williamdunne: I don't have any statistics about performance but I've found it works pretty well. I've only done basic clustering before using it tbh, doing things like sharing secrets for authentication
mircea_popescu: the other is that well, we don't know how efficient it is. ie, how much bw/packetage/userbase it can support per mm of hardware.
mircea_popescu: i don't even think anyone has windows servers
mircea_popescu: i don't see specifically whatr running. you can't moderate it anyway.
mircea_popescu: if it works at all. max guy doesn't have a point about women, but he does have a point about stupid.
mircea_popescu: it's a huge time investment, and it really won't work halfway.
mircea_popescu: you won't be able to make browser gossipd that'd for damned sure.
mircea_popescu: lol Pierre_Rochard. these twerps are all on the same rubber band. 1. mp wrote we're shit because mp's jealous, not because we're shit. 2 ??? 3. bitcoin doesn't exist.
mike_c: (I don't really care about this though, disclaim away)
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Don't suppose I could have a link?
williamdunne: Pierre_Rochard: Sure thing, I won't add it then. It doesn't really use any resources in particular to add it but your call
trinque: mike_c: dunno why they'd vouch for the quality of something they haven't rewritten fully yet
mike_c: ben_vulpes: don't get mad at me because the foundation has tiny balls.
williamdunne: Pierre_Rochard: Lottery winning janitor annoyed new lottery ticket didn't win