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mircea_popescu: antonosika well then you get a free pass.
rybro: all i can think of is susan korman and that pink ribbon breast cancer thing
mircea_popescu: a point established by considering that one has to reason to discover the good, whereas one just "feels" the nice. which approach is exactly why nice rather than good, why all that intellectual effort
BlueMeanie4: what's more, my praxis in life is taking away the capital and the franchise of you lot.< we also have another phrase , getting 'Gypped'
mircea_popescu: good is a matter of reason at least to some degree. nice is pure sensata crapolade.
mircea_popescu: what's more, my praxis in life is taking away the capital and the franchise of you lot.
mircea_popescu: antonosika my philosophy in life is that all ills arise from people like you having any money and any voice, basically.
mircea_popescu: rybro he's talking nice not good.
rybro: everyone is too brainwashed to have principles anyway
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mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/fb3v4nFL << kakobrekla i see yours and i raise you wtf is this shit.
rybro: total logical fallacy man, unless you define what 'good' people are for all parties involved there are definitely going to be differences in opinion on what a 'good' person is and what a good action is on their part
BlueMeanie4: Mircea, totally agree
mircea_popescu: "nice" people are rarely worth the price of a decent burial, clothes included, and i very much doubt they ever should be.
antonosika: Smart people have good values, so If you have a good suggestion of what to donate my btc to I would regard you as smarter
mircea_popescu: best idea is to work with smart people.
mircea_popescu: antonosika that approach to business will ensure you'll squander whatever little capital you have.
antonosika: I deposit 3 btc to you. Isn't it fair that we decide something nice that happens with it if there is a large delay of ETH currency?
mircea_popescu: because they only claim to do cool stuff. anyone can claim to do cool stuff.
rybro: seems like they do cool stuff by why so shady
antonosika: Ehum I want to make deals with nice people.
mircea_popescu: recall, im the openbsd guy.
mircea_popescu: i donate to whatever the hell i feel like with or without that contract lol
antonosika: how about you donate the 3 btc to something nice if contract fails ?
mircea_popescu: the purpose is to gain exposure to eth. you can't have the exposure without the exposure.
antonosika: well purpose is that you buy eth cheaply in one year though...
mircea_popescu: antonosika kinda the purpose of these contracts.
antonosika: mircea_popescu: I deem that ethereum will trade in 100 btc in one year, but in the chance that it does not I have an infinite loss of capital (which is a lot since I dont have much).
assbot: Rota pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: it's lulzy. http://trilema.com/category/rota/ << read those, ask me again.
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 you ever read up on the fabulous adventure of teh rota ?
mircea_popescu: antonosika "avoid the risk of a delay of ethereum trade" << what;s this mean ?
BlueMeanie4: so who adjudicates the contracts?
BlueMeanie4: thanks to Daniel btw
antonosika: mircea_popescu: Thanks for writing the contract, my take is that you see no way of making it possible for me to avoid waiting till september 2015 for the eth and avoid the risk of a delay of ethereum trade?
mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 1 Marx sez : never trust a capitalist.
BlueMeanie4: im in the wot
mircea_popescu: listen, you got to get in the wot if you keep coming by.
mircea_popescu: he was with the laissez faire troop neh ?
BlueMeanie4: not hard to learn, but the complex structured instruments are not that easy to figure out
BlueMeanie4: the one in the backside of the NYSE where hookers hang out?
mircea_popescu: what alley is that ?
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well it doesn't help that he doesn;'t really know the common terminology.
BlueMeanie4: you should try to conform to common terminology- makes it easier for people to get invovled
xmj: it doesn't specify that you have the right not to buy said amount of BTC.
BlueMeanie4: 'buy BTC at a preset price in the future' is an option
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: There once was a she named Priscilla << but it'
BlueMeanie4: so an option is the ABILITY not the OBLIGATION to buy
BlueMeanie4: a future is similar, but it delivers the actual asset and the price is paid down in full
xmj: We cal that Future.
BlueMeanie4: the issue is you need to price the option
BlueMeanie4: ok for a test
BlueMeanie4: do you do stock trading?
danielpbarron: i'd be interested in some sort of deal where I buy BTC at today's price next year
BlueMeanie4: so what kind of contract would you do then?
BlueMeanie4: ok so who thinks BTC is going up?
danielpbarron: ya, just type it up and clearsign it with your PGP key; get the other guy to sign that
BlueMeanie4: so where are the contracts describeD
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BingoBoingo: Beautiful kakobrekla, keep us updated if there is a further reply
danielpbarron: wow, now warriorforum won't let me link to other people's sites in my signature
BlueMeanie4: dignork Daniel and I were reading that this morning
dignork: If you meantion Preston, i guess you read this: http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/08/17/dont-walk-away-run/
BlueMeanie4: they use the term 'webinar' to make you think its' something more important than some lame video someone churned out
BingoBoingo: BlueMeanie4: It's like any other thing. Most of them are absolute shit, but occasionally you get one by an actual expert on an actual subject. There was actually a nice OpenBSD one done by Micheal W. Lucas for O'Reilly
ThickAsThieves: it's frustrating to have to pick them
BlueMeanie4: as soon as I see the word 'webinar' im turned off
ThickAsThieves: it sure is hard to book a US flight that isnt somehow connected to US Airways sometimes...
danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/prestonjbyrne/status/504362441082683393 Sweet salvation! Might pop on a bit later tonight. << Preston Byrne might join later :D
BlueMeanie4: Daniel- thanks for the help friend
danielpbarron: 04:00 <+ben_vulpes> <danielpbarron> i'm getting use out of it << what are ya doing with cp? << this: http://danielpbarron.com/MEAT/
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: This drug works the opposite direction, gets converted to Dopamine in vivo
ThickAsThieves: does it cause superdepression leading to actors killing themselves?
jurov: BlueMeanie4 no just noticed you were trying
jurov: coinroll's just trying for few days
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: tell preston he's not a lost cause
BingoBoingo: Yeah, later I remembered the WoL buy
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> ben_vulpes: Is Coinroll the 3rd Van Customer, or have people other than Mircea and Myself been buying ads? << the former
asciilifeform: lol re: the notion of 'controlling' a hypothetical 'superintelligent' machine.
antonosika: What do you think about ethereum?
jurov: Cognitive enhancement could take place through collective cognitive ability -- the Internet, for example, and institutional innovations that enable humans to function better together. In terms of individual cognitive enhancement, the first thing likely to be successful is genetic selection in the context of in-vitro fertilization. I don't hold out much for cyborgs or implants.
jurov: How to control superintelligent AI is really the most important task of our time -- yet, it is almost completely ignored.
assbot: Artificial Intelligence May Doom The Human Race Within A Century, Oxford Professor Says
BlueMeanie4: yes MSFT divided users into 4 tiers
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danielpbarron: where did you find that?
danielpbarron: that's not the right one..
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BlueMeanie4: what do i need to do now?
BlueMeanie4: i think this goes back to ancient times really, so did the romans
danielpbarron: in my own experience, it's not worth getting people into Bitcoin that can't do these things
danielpbarron: it should be anyone's take who has a brain and doesn't like wasting it
BlueMeanie4: that's MPs take as well it seems
danielpbarron: if you can't do these basic things then why are you in Bitcoin?
danielpbarron: it's usable by those who are worth talking to
BlueMeanie4: this system is usable by about 20 people all of them have PhDs
gribble: BlueMeanie4, when you get the challenge string, use this command: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
danielpbarron: ;;echo BlueMeanie4, when you get the challenge string, use this command: [everify]
thestringpuller: aw i wanted to bash that
gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.