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BitMarmot: I just don't like going after people personally - I'd rather discuss the issues
BlueMeanie4: that was basically my thought when I bothered to read his nonsense writings
BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- of course he doesnt want to program it- i makes ZERO sense!
mircea_popescu: but generally, you can distinguish they don't know wtf they're talking about on terminology, and just discard that and see if they're basically honest or not. at least it's my approach.
BlueMeanie4: got the idea they know it because... well bitcoin. < a lot of that goes on for sure
antonosika: just needed to paste it
BlueMeanie4: he wanted to peg the value of assets to some 'market value' - it was utter nonsense
mircea_popescu: gotta cut amateurs slack re finance, somehow everyone got the idea they know it because... well bitcoin.
BitMarmot: Let me put it this way - I wanted to play the ball rather than the programmer
antonosika: mircea_popescu: thanks for making it so clear.
mircea_popescu: and i'd know this how ?
BlueMeanie4: i beg to differe
BitMarmot: on the programmer side
mircea_popescu: ok, "I look at BitSharesX and I see a group of talented" << what do you mean by talented then.
BitMarmot: Good work ThickAsThieves.
mircea_popescu: therealaltcoin, ThickAsThieves' scamcoin.
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1636.67 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s
BitMarmot: fact is, most alt chains aren't that big a deal/that different from BTC to merit existence
mircea_popescu: antonosika that you can't give sue 1.5 btc and mary 1.5 btc of your load. gotta pick a girl blow the whole load on her.
BitMarmot: they wouldn't need to presell because they'd make their money mining the crap out of it
mircea_popescu: i mean other than tardstalk finance.
antonosika: What does it mean that assignments are integral?
mircea_popescu: im not even sure what it's supposed to be.
mircea_popescu: as in, soon they'll do presales for the presale ?
BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- allocate at least an hour to get through the WOT process
BitMarmot: all this stuff is iterative
BlueMeanie4: that sounds like the scene from Monty Python holy Grail
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot it doesn't say so much cause "token pre-sales" isn't reallyt a term of art.
BitMarmot: I'll join WoT this weekend
mircea_popescu: also get out of this habit of using the same title on different dates for different articles. it's breadspread insanity.
BitMarmot: He would cast a curse on any campers at the camp who harassed local wildlife
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot "I don’t like or approve of token pre-sales and I never will." << whatr's this mean ?
BitMarmot: who lived in the rockies
BitMarmot: A friend of mine tells me the tale of a marmot called Grey Beard
BlueMeanie4: we have something like a marmot in the rocky mountains. its similar to a mountain-hamster
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2014 10:50:07; mircea_popescu: There once was a she named Priscilla whose vagina was flavored vanilla. The taste was so fine man and beast stood in line of a lick at this fabled chinchilla.
BingoBoingo: BitMarmot> Website's been clocking 1,000 hits a day for the last three days - I should write about marmots more often << Not a bad idea
mircea_popescu: because that's what the contract says.
antonosika: Why cant u just argue that that is another transaction?
BlueMeanie4: although I cant confirm that the current concept bears any resemblance to those early ideas
mircea_popescu: i already did dood. in between that pastebin and a blockchain read you have incontrovertible proof.
BlueMeanie4: I even recall the early bitshares stuff on btt, it was pure idiocy
mircea_popescu: how would you like it to be done ?
BitMarmot: BlueMeanie4 thanks! I saw.
antonosika: Public confirmation of that a contract holds
BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- I tweeted you :)
antonosika: How is that done?
antonosika: mircea_popescu: will you confirm that the contract holds when you get the payment?
BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- those guys are notorious for faking things like sales numbers and web stats
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BitMarmot: Website's been clocking 1,000 hits a day for the last three days - I should write about marmots more often
BlueMeanie4: I just know the people involved and I didnt even bother running the numbers, I already know the answer
mircea_popescu: which is what's wrong with "biding their time" idiocies.
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking outrage is what it is. basically vitalik saw the neobee fuckwit buy a ferrari or whatever it was, went out of his mind and well... "if x can steal why shouldn't i"
BitMarmot: Thanks BlueMeanie4 - I do this for a living so looked at BitShares for 20 minutes and was like, "does not compute"
BlueMeanie4: and i really appreciate your points in that article BitMarmot
BlueMeanie4: its pretty clear that Ethereum and Bitshares were fundraisers
BlueMeanie4: wow this system is confusing as hell
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BlueMeanie4: I think the SEC is aware of what Vitalik and Bitshares are doing, but theyre biding their time
BitMarmot: ben_vulpes:danielpbarron: tell preston he's not a lost cause
mircea_popescu: you at least get to come.
BitMarmot: I mean, I don't exactly look forward to the day seeing as I'm meant to be hanged
mircea_popescu: but yes, i will definitely push for prosecution of the current set of sec comissioners for having failed to take the hand i extended to them last year.
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot myeah. the many advantages for the general public of the sec demuring instead of taking its fucking place in the world.
mircea_popescu: antonosika well if a payment as specified makes it to the address specified before time specified, you have.
mircea_popescu: "wait a tick, wait a tick... i will not ruin this sketch for a pound"
antonosika: mircea_popescu: Is there a way for me to show that I paid?
BitMarmot: two ticks
mircea_popescu: o that. heh.
BitMarmot: Of everything I've written I figured MP probably approved of my most recent work the most
BitMarmot: agreed, but I figured the marmot peg was the best way to illustrate the sheer stupidity of what was going on with BTSX
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot usg press machine was a better nick. this bitblabla stuff is a cancer.
BitMarmot: Just swinging by to say hello
BitMarmot: Will do it this weekend
mircea_popescu: antonosika you don't have to sign it, if you pay it stands.
BitMarmot: I am also a USG_Press_Machine from time to time
antonosika: How do I sign the contract?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony that we know :D
antonosika: mircea_popescu: Anyways, one thought on doing more good is to make it easier for those naive souls (as myself) who want to understand to learn.
mircea_popescu: you still got those usenet archives ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, a complete collection of grabbe would probably be useful at this point. he doesn't seem to have any web exposure.
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mircea_popescu: you can't start by doing good. you start by doing work, a lot of it, then you see.
mircea_popescu: well this problem is chiefly reflective of you not having done a lot of it yet.
antonosika: If I read logs or articles I don't know what things have any "value" and what are just writings.
antonosika: Well you said that it would be better if I had no money or voice since I will never do anything good. It feels like that gives a rather strict definition of good.
mircea_popescu: In August 1998, PointCast found such a partner. In order to compete with @Home, a consortium of telephone companies and Microsoft put together a project designed to promote use of DSL in preference to cable modems. <<< has there EVER been a technology battle where ms fell on the right side ?
mircea_popescu: As companies like Pointcast, Marimba’s Castanet, Backweb, Intermind and others flock to seize “push” market-share, they have been feted by the business press, welcomed by media companies who hope “push” will help them make money, even lauded by Wired magazine as “the radical future of media beyond the Web.” <<< all winners :D
mircea_popescu: antonosika you generally can't expect a summary of such things be presented to you on demand. there's about 2 years worth of logs here and >5 of trilema articles, you'll have to go through all that to find your own answer.
assbot: Let's Get This Straight: March 1997 archives - Salon.com
mircea_popescu: "Media coverage of new technologies is always governed by an inexorable cycle: First comes the hyping, then comes the trashing. Of late, the Net has so accelerated this cycle that the trashing kicks in well before the hype has stopped — sometimes creating a conflict of views that looks suspiciously like genuine debate."
antonosika: I would not donate to charity. But anyhow, if you deem some things as ill (such as charity) some people do things that are not ill (like you for example?) what would such deeds be?
mircea_popescu: well that's where it gets iffy.
BlueMeanie4: my guess is the one who lost the capital
BlueMeanie4: 'shouldnt have' according to whom?
assbot: Some basic discussion of charity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: antonosika lessee, maybe this is relevant to your interests http://trilema.com/2013/some-basic-discussion-of-charity/
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well it's not necessarily defined, but to me gypped is the inverse process : when some lout appropriates capital he shouldn't have.
antonosika: mircea_popescu: But, do you have a definition of deeds that are the opposite of ill?