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ben_vulpes: this whole thing's been a really eye opening exercise in pricing
ben_vulpes: he also doesn't need as much to pay for the space, emotionally, as asciilifeform does
ben_vulpes: see BingoBoingo's looking at the long term. patience, stamina...
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> -ev (for me, naturally. can't speak for anyone else) << Between the benevolent Kakobrekla donation and the MP seeding on the Van ads first month, if I hold long enough maybe I'll be able to wrest Alpha from Intel and host the blog on 22nm chips of a not shitty heritage...
asciilifeform: decimation: but he paid more than pocket change.
ben_vulpes: bitcoins at all times.
ben_vulpes: cookies today, dubloons tomorrow.
decimation: ben_vulpes: seems like a cool system, but would Leibniz decorate his Theodicee with ads for cookies?
nubbins`: ben_vulpes we'll eventually issue a compilation, but you can find that particular song somewhere on our website
ben_vulpes: and a complicated optimization problem to boot.
ben_vulpes: tanstaafl, so to speak.
ben_vulpes: mind you van still takes 1% of your baseline pool, even though the rest goes back directly to you.
ben_vulpes: but you can run your own ad whatever fraction of the time you're willing to pay for...
asciilifeform doesn't expect freebies. but won't pay to construct manna-from-sky catcher.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there was mention of user-tweakable minimum bids at one point ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I remember stumbling into asciilifeform's hypercard post well before I did the same into bitcoin... Through /. of all places
ben_vulpes: even all i know is the gpg key the user uses to sign up and any funding addresses
TheNewDeal: is this 8 Восьмой ?
decimation is depressed about usg beating the new new new iraq war drums
asciilifeform won't hold breath waiting for this manna from sky
ben_vulpes: all you know are the links they're linking.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: actually, you don't know the people.
BingoBoingo: In considering ben_vulpes ad platform we knwo the people who have advertised on the blogs established in #b-a's life and wonders who will come of of the shadows to advertise on Loper... because unexpected figures may emerge...
ben_vulpes: all i know is that the house is on fire
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: trolls, feeding of
ben_vulpes: <BlueMeanie4> thats how a money supply expands << i'm quite excited about this monetary system without insane expansion all the time.
decimation: asciilifeform: indeed. usually this reversal of causation is a way to route around politically incorrect truths
kakobrekla: i thought its 'fatter'
TheNewDeal: his website took a shit
asciilifeform: 'get married, you'll grow taller'
asciilifeform: deliberate reversal of the 'arrow of causation' is a favourite tactic of academtards
TheNewDeal: ;;later tell mike_c what's going on with the War, man?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Or would have us all typing lojban
decimation: asciilifeform: this is true, it does seem to beg the question
asciilifeform: decimation: not that this can be ruled out, but it smells of the same logic that would have us all move to japan to extend lifespan
decimation: all kinds of fiat research has shown improvements in multiple cognitive traits in the multilingual
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asciilifeform: virtually every book ever printed, in plain text.
BingoBoingo rememebers "There's no such thing as a standard deal" bandied about here before
decimation: some things simply resist commercialism
TheNewDeal: russian would be a good language to learn. Some of the best authors wrote in russian
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: yes. just explaining the mechanics.
ben_vulpes: it's supposed to be a win-win.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i think we all understand where your ask is and where the bids currently are. as much as i'd love to have the slot, you have to want it as well for the deal to make any sense for both of us.
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Identifying the language is the most fun part
TheNewDeal: in russian? or what is that language :/
asciilifeform would ask for the ads, if he had any reason to think that some weirdo would bid enough right away to recompense for 'my site ever had ads'
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I'm rushing to get to speaking, but dictionary assisted reading is like a nice puzzle
ben_vulpes: venue operators rake in 99% of the bids. we take the bitcoin gold standard 1%.
ben_vulpes: each ad runs proportionately to its bid relative to the rest of the pool
ben_vulpes: every day has a pool, the sum of coins bid on it for that day
ben_vulpes: ah well you see people bid what they're willing to pay for a day
jborkl: Ben_vulpes. Explain how it pays? Not sure on the pool btc
TheNewDeal: anywhere to find an engrish version :(
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: purist << just that 'my site has adz now' is worth more to me than pocket change
decimation: asciilifeform: vk.com is an excellent place to find original krtek videos
TheNewDeal: asciilifeform that book looks awesome
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Thanks, I'll chew on it
asciilifeform: plain ascii txt.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the purist
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2014 21:19:59; asciilifeform: mike_c: unlikely that anyone will ever offer enough to make it worth 'my site has ads now'...
asciilifeform: not that those are umbers that really matter << they matter.
eightyeight: ben_vulpes: to seek the holy grail!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If you offer a pdf, I'll take whatever language kako accepts
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: They don't matter beyond telling fluffypony to STFU and blog moar
asciilifeform saw one english translation, it was terrible
ben_vulpes: not that those are umbers that really matter
BingoBoingo: BitBet is going to win the impressions race
jborkl: Nice, not I had not seen that yet
ben_vulpes: oh twenty hey
ben_vulpes: its a pretty dumb-dumb implementation of impression tracking too - bitbet's numbers are only going to go up for the next 5 days or so
ben_vulpes: ^^ that's true enough
BingoBoingo not sure it has been 7 days since those started and BitBet's started last night
dsherm: gotta run bye and thx
BingoBoingo: jborkl: You see the stats on the venue page yet? http://van-ads.com/venues
decimation: dsherm: that is a good point
jborkl: I think it is a terrific idea and good timing
dsherm: decimation: you need to be able to pay for that monopoly though
TheNewDeal: couple thousand coins sitting between 500, not the ten thousand there were before the dip
decimation: dsherm: there is some point to this, but as long as the state has a 'monopoly on violence' this isn't much of a limit
jborkl: ben_vulpes how is the advertising going?
asciilifeform: (visitor to faraway planet takes forbidden 'sobriogenic' pill, notices that no robots, only idiots who think they're robots; takes a yet more forbidden pill, notices other things are absent as well... etc)
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decimation: asciilifeform: welcome to the desert of the real
dsherm: decimation: it was limited in the past by an inferior form of hard money called gold.
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asciilifeform hallucinations are default in us << was not supplied with the correct drugs by warden, reduced to sobriety
jborkl: Sweet , that is great
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: to usg, the only 'problem in bitcoin' is that it exists.
TheNewDeal: i'm a usian and I can testify to that fact kakobrekla
decimation: dsherm: by what means are you going to limit the size of the state?
BingoBoingo: jborkl: I believe everything sold above the advertised price
kakobrekla: i thought hallucinations are default in us.
jborkl: How did the mike_c IPO go? Did not keep up enough lately
TheNewDeal: asciilifeform he's a usg scientist inasfar as he believes he knows the cures to all the problems in bitcoin, but in actuality, he only thoroughly understands what makes the USG machine so shitacular
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform is quite sure that he didn't hallucinate it, though << one of many reasons I advertise my drinking, keeps this feasible
dsherm: decimation: 'libertarian' has always been a losing ideology. the idea that the state will choose not the pirate what it can pirate is silly....why is lib silly
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asciilifeform is quite sure that he didn't hallucinate it, though