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MolokoDeck: since the idea of a cryptocontract is that it's unenforceable and the value of performing as per the contract is one's reputation, it seemed important to make sure the claimed signatories are probably the signatories.
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2014 03:25:41; gribble: (gpg info [--key|--address] <nick>) -- Returns the registration details of registered user <nick>. If '--key' option is given, interpret <nick> as a GPG key ID.
ben_vulpes: i don't even recall the name of the suit.
ben_vulpes: does anyone have a link to the lawsuit by the guy who sued the usg for the gold they 'borrowed'?
MolokoDeck: simply having valid signatures doesn't guarantee that the people who made the contract signed it. which is why I'm using wot as an authority to find the registered keys for the parties asserted to have been signatories.
mircea_popescu: in the endless desert of logs
MolokoDeck: but so far I haven't dug in enough to know if that's doable given command line GPG, I think you have to validate against a public key.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck it cabn, gimme a sec to find the solution.
MolokoDeck: if the signatures could be extracted from the document without knowing the corresponding public key, which I'm getting out of the public key registry that wot uses, that would be good.
RagnarDanneskjol: i think we;re still one step off here molo
MolokoDeck: then the bot would return an SHA256 hash of the document, encode it as a bitcoin address and make a minimum non-spendable transaction, and log to a repository or blog the document with the sha256 hash and the transaction ID containing the encoded hash, and the block number it's in. It would wait to get a confirmation before doing this so the transaction would be in the blockchain.
mircea_popescu: it would extract the nicks from the signatures in the .txt. the mechanism to do this relies on gribble, did you see that ping ?
MolokoDeck: the bot would respond that all of the cryptosignatures of the listed nicks were registered with #bitocin-otc, their public key hashes matched and all the signatures were good.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck nevermind what one wants, say what the thing does.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl otherwise, the point that "bitcoin is the chosen" by the very code is quite sound and an intelligent way to go about it.
MolokoDeck: one wants to time-stamp and "notarize" documents that are signed by counterparties with verifiable cryptosignatures registered with #bitcoin-otc WebOfTrust.
mircea_popescu: so tell me again what you think this is, best way to go about thisa
MolokoDeck: end of september seems easily doable to have a working version going and available as source in a GIT repository.
assbot: Cred ca pe alocuri se exagereaza pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl " This got me thinking about the topic, so I decided to write up some thought I had on the subject a while ago." <<< the "i decided" device is the absolute worst intro mechanism for a blog post possible. it connotes this guy : http://trilema.com/2011/cred-ca-pe-alocuri-se-exagereaza/
ben_vulpes: hey does anyone have a link to that thing where coinbase straight up blocks certain addrs?
MolokoDeck: ready to talk about details for completing the cryptocontract bot. most of the unit tests are in place, but it's a good idea to fill in any desiderata or necessities to reasonable detail.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck hey. so as i was telling RagnarDanneskjol, i have no problem covering you if you can deliver the thing by what was it, end of sept ?
assbot: Of mendacity, mold, bugs and other things. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
RagnarDanneskjol: ;;later tell mircea_popescu pls ping me when yur back in the hood
kakobrekla: yeah they called themselfs fags back then iirc
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ben_vulpes: i guess that period's fine after all
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jurov: with caveat thet ETA for rigorous spec is Inf
jurov: actually i realized bitcoin is the only software project with milestones going sooner than expected
kakobrekla: only 10 min at a time
jurov: in bitcoin it does. get used to it.
kakobrekla: but that would make time go backwards at times!
jurov: use average time for last 10000 blocks instead of 10 minutes
jurov: dunno why they don't extrapolate from sliding window or such
TheNewDeal: thats a 600 second block time eh
jurov: obv they don't count with 20% increases
BingoBoingo: Fucking 20% diff increases, going to make the halving cum early
gribble: Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Sat Aug 6 05:47:51 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 1 year, 48 weeks, 6 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds.
BingoBoingo: Is this someone from here commenting on ZeroHedge? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-28/man-many-perversions-%E2%80%93-federal-cybersecurity-head-convicted-child-porn-charges#comment-5157757
BingoBoingo: 630 being the area code and not the number of messages.
ben_vulpes: probably the wise thing.
BingoBoingo: Already been deleted. If the FBI wants to investigate a FERPA violation they can check my phone records, like they probably already are doing and check out those 630 phone numbers
BingoBoingo: It reads like some teachers gossiping about their students.
thestringpuller: who si they?
ben_vulpes: what kind of text?
BingoBoingo: They are sending photos of text
ben_vulpes: they're texting photos of van?
BingoBoingo: So this is really odd. The messages are fucking pictures of text. It's like these fuckers are texting over van-ads. What the fuck.
BingoBoingo: Even though I already treat the phone as tainted by design
BingoBoingo: Or to raise better kinds of suspicion. So you get a space ship instead of a phone
kakobrekla: (its what i use instead of 'nsa' for not to raise suspicion)
jurov: well.. that's fate of any company without admin capable to build stuff on bare metal
ben_vulpes: twist: wherever consultant suggests hosting move, that's where hosting will move.
jurov: did the client buy shell access? no? case dismissed.
ben_vulpes: keep in mind this is a wp hosting company using plesk.
ben_vulpes: assume that client a has the most cash flowing through the box by 2 orders of magnitude. is hosting company b's behavior reasonable?
ben_vulpes: client brings in consultants to look at their security, and consultants ask for shell access to the server on which client sites are running. hosting company b flat declines consultants access to hardware.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: in the meantime, feel welcome to try it personally
kakobrekla: ill donate you a trezor if you want to attack it
asciilifeform: from the published circuit, it seems to be asking for it. ☟︎
thestringpuller: so basically you're attempting to hack the trezor via DPA?
thestringpuller: actually I think a 5 year old could understand the wiki article
thestringpuller: I'll take a look asciilifeform
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00085271 BTC [+]
gribble: Power analysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_analysis>; Differential Power Analysis - Cryptography Research: <http://www.cryptography.com/public/pdf/DPA.pdf>; Introduction to Differential Power Analysis and Related Attacks: <http://www.cryptography.com/public/pdf/DPATechInfo.pdf>
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: but what will that accomplish. ELI5?
asciilifeform: would require more than a simple electrical mod
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: afaik that product has no provision for use with own battery
jurov: well, they will be like "of course don't use with untrusted cables"
kakobrekla: battery power solves this neh ?
asciilifeform: jurov: just tap a cheap microusb cable on the 'thin' end.
asciilifeform: jurov: strictly speaking you don't need to open the unit for this.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: what will that show?
asciilifeform: compared to a distant ground, yes
kakobrekla: ground compared to real ground ?
asciilifeform: jurov: watch the usb ground pin.
jurov: if i come around a scope, what am i to look for?
thestringpuller: dman beat me to it
asciilifeform no longer needs to buy the machine
asciilifeform: ^ interesting things here for the alert reader
assbot: Hardware — TREZOR Technical Manual 1.0 documentation
jurov: hmm, mytrezor site does not react to clicks
jurov: asciilifeform i have no idea how to pry it open.. maybe it'll go better with platic version
thestringpuller: is the trezor guy in wot?
asciilifeform: jurov: consider posting a photo of the internals
devthedev: Balances don't seem to be loading
devthedev: I'm having trouble with the mytrezor site
devthedev: Is anyone in possession of a Trezor?
TomServo wonders what the 3 musketeers saying has to do with anything.
asciilifeform: even mentions Turdmeister.
kakobrekla: taaki also does not fail to mention the word.
kakobrekla: https://btctrip.com < heh, testimonial #1: charlie shrem, says: "btc trip is amazing"
TomServo: Well at least they got that going for them.
TomServo: Lachance’s web page about the camp lists only three rules, and one is: “Dogecoin must be pronounced ‘dogh-gee-coin’, not ‘dohj-coin’.”
punkman: "“The Bitcoin leader was arrested right before Burning Man ’cause he was maybe helping the FBI, and … Anyway, we’re the Dogecoin Camp now,” "
BingoBoingo: Wouldn't have the same impact if it were a glue horse.
BingoBoingo: Well, that's kind of the point of the horse head. Khartoum was a very expensive horse.
asciilifeform: (horse heads are expensive these days)