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bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: now i'm confused
as to which hash is which lol
mircea_popescu: wait, is the topless brunette ~singing~
as part of a strange softcore porn + music deal you people had going in the 70s ?!
kakobrekla: then i thought i might
as well translate the caption, if someone asks.
bounce: why that then? because you get less choice
as a citizen, or what?
mircea_popescu: "It is almost
as if someone (a quite wealthy and powerful someone) has material interests that diverge with those of the Obama administration, and hence converge with those of Putin. Alongside the emerging China-Russia axis, keeping tabs on just how close to Russia Germany is willing to get, is easily the most notable story in the entire Ukraine conflict."
Naphex: that look good
as well
pankkake: fluffypony: it serves more
as an intelligence filter, like bitbet's captcha
assbot: Embattled CEO of Bitcoin miner firm: We are
as poor
as church mice | Ars Technica
benkay: one might go so far
as to say that listing on mpex and incorporating in the states are mutually exclusive at this time.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the guy does miss an impoirtant point : small companies can indeed opt out of patent trollage : they incorporate on mpex,
as per bitcoin rules.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete i also don't own half of every stock, such
as for instance s.nsa, where i'm an implied minority (via ssws)
benkay: not
as well
as tiberius, though
bravetheworld: +mirces_popescu regarding my classification of "basic bitch"
as an adjective (although I use it
as a noun in the video) I see it
as a description of a state of mind.
mircea_popescu: HeySteve to repurpose decimation's earlier link, the foundation members couldn't answer for themselves
as far
as tonight.
dudesir: Right, I suppose I want a seat for more a more ethereal presitigious reason at this point
as I am still unclear on the benefits.
mircea_popescu: i think some heretics here do have facebooks but won't admit it because they still wanna be counted
as cool
mircea_popescu: we just don't know if you were involved
as gofer or shot caller is all.
DrewHorne: we have calculated padding in so that all of our costs should be less than what we have estimated them
as DrewHorne:
as well
as purchasing goods and services with bitcoin that we are able to if it is a prudent decision
Dimsler: entertainment venues just suck
as investments
mircea_popescu: but who were you going to sell to again,
as the exit strategy ?
DrewHorne: since i have had a few interested people contact me based off of the last post i made regarding this (approached much less professionally without knowledge of the forum i was getting into) i figured i can let this sit on the off chance that other investors happen upon it while i work on building my trust in the WOT to approach from that angle
as well
mircea_popescu: to best understand this : a bank that reports its customers to any tax office they want to, if they want it to, and doesn't otherwise would be the embodiment of legal neutrality, in the absolute sense. nevertheless, the legal theory would be presented that it is in fact actgively engaged in criminal activity, and
as shoddy
as that legal teory may be, it will actually carry in most western courts.
mircea_popescu: so let's not confuse things. bitcoin can be
as neutral
as you want, for you. for hitler, stalin, pol pot and obama, bitcoin is ~quite~ politically engaged.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr bitcoin is politically neutral only in some sort of politically meaningless "absolute" sense. otherwise, inasmuch
as western socialism holds the ideological view that all non socialist (politically neutral or otherwise) systems of thought are political enemies, bitcoin can only be politically-engaged from their perspective.
mircea_popescu:
as usual, any attempts to tighten the noose past a certain level do more to chaff the thing
fluffypony: CheckDavid: I also have no problem with operators being real-world anonymous if they choose to do so, there are checks and balances in place for that (such
as their WoT presence)
fluffypony: everything you say comes out my speakers twice
as loud
jurov: such
as stocks and mutual funds
gribble: Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified
as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None
gribble: Nick 'Benkay', with hostmask 'Benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified
as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None
assbot: Anti-surveillance mask lets you pass
as someone else - CNET
Drew: what was the info for the server login on mIRC again? the web platform isnt nearly
as good
Drew: im about to post a different version of my little investment seeking thread on bitcoin talk, self moderated to delete trolls and just let it sort of sit around
as advertisement while i start building my trust to approach from a different angle
jurov: it may
as well result in mass pwnage and chaos
jurov: how more volume?
as if, twice the number of people will switch to epayment if prices decrease by 2%?
jurov:
as long
as merchants like to acept cash, that won§t happen
bounce: so ditch that feature and banks will move to actual
as opposed to make-believe card security?
fluffypony: I move for pankkake to be nominated
as CTO of Bitcoin
BigBitz: I thought, at a min, residency
as bounce said, but I actually thought they had some Citizenship nonsense
as well.
BigBitz: yeah pretty sure there is a capital requirement
as well.
BayAreaCoins_: You know
as a American I can't have a Swiss bank account? Sure I understand not giving your bitcoins away
as a bitcoin person, but if you are someone else it might not be such a bad option...
fluffypony: Bitcoin is even being investigated
as a terrorist threat
davout: if your safety deposit box is full of gold you don't really qualify
as a "fiat guy" in my view :D
davout: i think that's more the retarded that act
as a repellent to the smart
davout: dotcoin:
as a matter of fact i am, i am also certainly not using cloudflare or hosting with 1&1
dotcoin: thats not correct
as i tell you already there is all to see
davout: dotcoin: this does classifies you
as completely unqualified to run a stock exchange, that's all
dotcoin: many other things in todo list, so i not give them so much priority yet
as i don't know this classifieds me
as scammer
dotcoin: yes i use and i know but i not must copy them
as system works like this
dotcoin: there exist many weiler same
as many Francois i guess
mircea_popescu: dotcoin we're not interested in emailing you
as the bitcoin bourse fuckwit. we're interested in emailing you
as markus whatever, to verify davout's theory that you're not behaving like the average forum scammer.
davout: "yep, i have correctly identified this glass
as containing water"
davout: if some fucktards end up calling you a troll you can count it
as a success
davout: but i can perfectly understand that if you perceive the person you are arguing with
as intelligent, it makes the arguing exercise different
davout: "i see this guy
as smart, but i see his opinion
as dumb, AAAARRGH dissonnance"
dotcoin: it was started
as bitcoin exchange, now we focus to going full to bitcoin stock exchange,
as we not want competition with the big ones like bc
dotcoin: order expirations of 100 days are for merchants only, if you want list shares you can do and your orders will be run
as long you want
mircea_popescu:
as far
as paying out of pocket to fly to fucking japan.
mircea_popescu:
as karpeles found out through bitter experience,
as vessenes will, etc.
kakobrekla: <dotcoin> but don't accuse me of scam
as there is no scam on bitcoin bourse guys < dont you owe btc to jurov ?
dotcoin: but don't accuse me of scam
as there is no scam on bitcoin bourse guys
mircea_popescu: your objection that it doesn't fit with your experience, unsound
as it may be in theory, is also easily dispatched in practice.
davout: in france,
as far
as i know, if a company is not solvent, there *must* be a liquidator appointed
davout: in france, there's usually a "suit" if the bankruptcy is fraudulent, a liquidation process goes in front of a judge
as well tho, but it's not really a lawsuit
mircea_popescu: it's not of the same nature
as everyone else's (those are resolved part of the civil suit)
davout: penal
as in surprise penis in butt
Apocalyptic: <davout> mircea_popescu: retroactive tax law changes are something that has happened in france
as well AFAIK // oh yeah it did
davout: mircea_popescu: retroactive tax law changes are something that has happened in france
as well AFAIK
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't count on them not doing something such
as changing the tax code mid exercise and then insisting you comply.
mircea_popescu: davout i mean
as a corporation selling to natural persons, you may or may not end up in hot water with whatever local tax authority if you don't give them a vat.
mircea_popescu: "please guys, spit on us, urinate, anything anything
as long
as we're involved in any way!"
pankkake:
as if this guy was the real issue. and what about that booby lee fucker?
khersonus: davout: so for your X.EUR future on mpex, if someone wanted EUR though b-c, should bitcoin-central be paying VAT on that? (because
as far
as I can tell, there's no fee, so the tax wouldn't come from the fee)
davout: we have the same kind of thing in france with the "auto-entrepreneur" setup, the way it works though, is that if you go over the threshold you lose the AE status and are required to create a different type of corp. which in practice results in the same thing
as jurov
jurov as all for S.BUTTCO
fluffypony: "You can give Fein Coins for events such
as raking a yard or selling a pencil or more."
davout: jurov: wait until the tax administration realizes signing a transaction can perfectly be defined
as a "service" :D
davout: khersonus: no i should absolutely not, because
as far
as I know european VAT applies on the full amount of sales unless stated otherwise
davout: AML provisions *may* apply for some specific cases, such
as scrap metal buying/selling in france for example
kakobrekla: btc atm could be considered
as otc trading no?
davout: when you buy and sell X, you buy and sell X,
as long
as X is not defined
as a financial instrument, (or a precious metal in some countries) there is no reason for KYC/AML to apply
davout: khersonus: my point is that the legal requirements are imaginary since bitcoin is nowhere legally defined
as money
kakobrekla: >We, are a Team from six countries ( Germany, Portugal, Russia, Turkey, Switzerland, and Great Britain ) and focused to meet your standard of requirements
as experienced and serious Bitcoin-Insiders, and would highly appreciate your feedback, proposal and critics to our site and services for an ensured continuous improvement process!
random_cat: i would like to declare that Ukyo owes me 100 USD (
as a lower bound)
mircea_popescu: while the philosophy involved may be arguable, i'm pretty sure that sales of books via ipads and whatnot are counted
as ipad revenue, not "books" revenue
cazalla: it's not
as carebear
as most mmos have become
cazalla: it's pitched
as a sandboxy type mmo