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mircea_popescu: otherwise they are incentivised to drive poorly.
mircea_popescu: jurov look, if you let poor people drive, there's no way to not have mandatory insurance.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the credit part is stupid.
jurov: oh there's mandatory car insurance in the us, too? so sooooocialist!
artifexd: I need to DCA
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: oh yes in that sense! i was thinking of how there is an increasing cost to keep the car moving
mircea_popescu: well don't buy anymore then lol
asciilifeform: neither is strongly connected to how often it moves.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it's approximately true - most folks pay insurance (mandatory) and usually bought the machine on credit (so, they pay and pay)
thestringpuller: slowly to 0
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: is a fixed cost, whether or not it moves << this isn't true
asciilifeform: $posint is expensive to the man who is flat broke
asciilifeform: and so, everybody owns - a taxi. and some, even a bus or garbage truck.
mircea_popescu: it's really not THAT expensive.
asciilifeform: fact is - much of the cost of owning vehicle in usa - is a fixed cost, whether or not it moves
mircea_popescu: well not that many. maybe guatemala and assimilated shitholes.
asciilifeform: 'Recently I heard a story on NPR about a poor family that went around looking for discounted food items at various groceries and stopping at the food pantry—in their own private minivan! And so here is a poor family that owns what in many parts of the world would amount to a bus company!' (orlov)
thestringpuller: because of suburbia with poor rapid transit
thestringpuller: i guess this is why Uber is becoming so overvalued...
mircea_popescu: but they had a towncar service that would basically go anywhere.
thestringpuller: I have to bike 7 miles to the nearest bus stop
thestringpuller: public transit doesn't reach where I live
thestringpuller: not so much in the big cities tho (NYC, Boston, etc.)
mircea_popescu: you know i lived there just fine w/o driving or owning a car.
thestringpuller: even if you don't want to
thestringpuller: ah. the dilemma of "We're murica, you must own car"
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: 'tis one thing if you like oil, dirt, metal (matter of fact - i do) but another if you're stuck with them whether or not you do
thestringpuller: i just saw an turbo charged e30 that puts ~450hp to the wheels
mircea_popescu: they're not neatly that bad drivers.
asciilifeform: then again i'm not certain any country will recognize american driver's licenses when the hour comes.
mircea_popescu: well done tat for callin' it.
mircea_popescu: o wow that's a first innit
asciilifeform: which is why we're more or less doomed to drive cabs (the lucky ones, that is) around the world, far more certainly than soviet emigres were
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cars << another thing in usa. more or less everybody is condemned to be his own cabbie, and to some extent, mechanic
mircea_popescu: how is this supposed to be a problem again ?
mircea_popescu: i don't see much in that. so some asshole kid thinks himself special, got roughed up in the slightest.
thestringpuller: This problem has to do with society.s dependence upon state sanctioned force to solve problems.
mircea_popescu: ias, Vittorio Emanuele punched Amedeo twice in the face."
mircea_popescu: "Currently the leadership of the House of Savoy is contested by two cousins: Vittorio Emanuele, Prince of Naples, who used to claim the title of King of Italy, and Prince Amedeo, Duke of Aosta, who still claims the title of the Duke of Savoy. Their rivalry has not always been peaceful — on May 21, 2004, following a dinner held by King Juan Carlos I of Spain on the eve of the wedding of his son Felipe, Prince of Astur
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ThickAsThieves: i thought i did too, seems to merely be an observation for now
mircea_popescu: i thought you had a theory
mircea_popescu: well, get a girl for that.
mircea_popescu: it works splendidly here. i guess depends on the cab quality
ThickAsThieves: my wife is the one that gets new cars, i get the hand-me-downs. yesterday i was positing that i should just sell mine and take cabs or uber or whatever everywhere
mircea_popescu: i can't stand sucking cock either doesn't mean i hate blowjobs. what's driving to do with it.
ThickAsThieves: <+thestringpuller> you know how I know you're not american mircea_popescu : you hate cars /// i cant stand driving and all the stuff about cars other than that they get me places
mircea_popescu: you think i write complicatedly, try morley for a spin
mircea_popescu: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24553/24553-h/24553-h.htm just for teh hell of it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the original copy-paste point : i feel like i could practically translate my romanian articles mocking the romanian "press" and its associated "blogosphere" word for word, just substitute names.
mircea_popescu: but i guess that's what you actually meant.
mircea_popescu: i dun think much of the concept of everyone being able to have their "own" car
mircea_popescu: good thing to do in prison, you know ? as it's requiring memory-only, no tools.
mircea_popescu: actually maybe you should write the book, except in russian. larger market.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well obv. they'd be the same thing.
mircea_popescu: i could prolly write a book of psychoantropology on the topic, but sadly it'd be rather incomprehensible in english without a ton of notes which kinda ruin the whole thing, and for 5 romanians able to read and write it's scarcely worth the year o' work.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, it is shocking, outrageous but also very amusing to see just how copy-pasted the final days us is from the peak of romania. it's almost as if instead of the romanian idiots copying teh superior us businessmen, the reverse happened.
mircea_popescu: give them a little now and a little later they'll be sucking the c0k and doing a good job of it for years.
mircea_popescu: that is, if you give them too much money it makes them stupid.
asciilifeform: 100k buys what - a year or two of food and roof in usa somewhere on the cheaper side.
ThickAsThieves: well he leaks money all over the place
asciilifeform: anyone find it peculiar how small is thiel's prize ?
asciilifeform surprised that no one remembered this
ThickAsThieves: cuz its assets are the btc
mircea_popescu: but if it assumes x btc worth and shares trade in btc it should be stuck at 8
asciilifeform: or, more precisely, of mr. yarvin's first full-time toady
ThickAsThieves: it assumes the btc worth
ThickAsThieves: and that is some dollar value
ThickAsThieves: the idea being the bot assumes MPOE is worth 80,000btc
ThickAsThieves: basically the bot is pegged to a certain conversion value for a specific amount of btc
ThickAsThieves: not secret, mike_c is gonna check i think
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves 5 before back to 8 or w/e it does ? /// i think i figured out exactly what it does actually
assbot: Atlanta Hawks owner Bruce Levenson selling team - ESPN
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves 5 before back to 8 or w/e it does ?
mircea_popescu: punkman: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/nobel-chemistry-idUSL5E7L51U620111005 <<< i don't think useful original work has EVER not been ridiculed.
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mircea_popescu: check out the preciseness of bitbet. 150bn ?
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ThickAsThieves: this TSLA is so boring, time for Alibaba!
ThickAsThieves: thatll be fun, my guess is all the other tech stocks will suffer
mircea_popescu: o hey, i think i had some bets on that
assbot: Alibaba: Biggest IPO By Market Value of All Time - MoneyBeat - WSJ
mircea_popescu: until their regime starts fucking conforming to international law.
mircea_popescu: fucking us oligarchs will end up with bitcoin community interdictions at this rate
ThickAsThieves: "Whenever I see that Thiel is giving away money, I get the goosebumps. How comes that he is always mentioned in connection with PayPal, but almost never in connection with Palantir, Prism, NSA and CIA?"
BingoBoingo: Aquent: You wouldn't happen to be Thiel by any chance?
ThickAsThieves: i heard rumors thiel sent a rep to scout Neo, i guess he dodged that one
mircea_popescu: anyway, once ethereum cracks open thiel being interviewed for his complicity in propping the scam will become a prerequsite for any further discussions re collaboration of bitcoin authorities with us authorities.
ThickAsThieves: seattle and potland were nice, seattle seems to be very healthy
mircea_popescu: not that they're not poor or anything.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, i'd have listened to it. the shit we talk about with the slavegirls alone would make an hour of excellent show pretty much daily.
mircea_popescu: romanians are neither very litigious nor is the local fcc very tough, but to make up for it ro publishers are very very poor.
mircea_popescu: in very winchell fashion i insisted the contract include an indemnity clause tho, and well... fell through.
mircea_popescu: "Thiel stressed the need for his programme while expressing optimism about what this year’s class could achieve"
ThickAsThieves: sounds like a tv show
assbot: $100k Peter Thiel Fellowship Awarded to Ethereum's Vitalik Buterin
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