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gabriel_laddel: IMHO, the differences between #b-a and /pol/ are many. /pol/ doesn't like it when they're censored and complains about how unfair things are. MP, and ascii both look ahead and see the need for WoTnet. MP commissions it out of pocket. ☟︎
cazalla: sorta disintegrated since 4chan became cuckchan and 8chan can't pay the bills
gabriel_laddel: Jews and children generally don't hit me :/
cazalla: i'm like.. don't run.. so he runs and goes head over heals and whack.. what can ya do? they don't fucking listen
cazalla: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32633719 can't barrage the farage.. guess you can
cazalla: well you probably don't have much reason to do so
cazalla: drinking? i don't drink as much as i did before my short stint working, but now back at home each day, figured why not have a drink tonight
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 04:50:27; mircea_popescu: isn't THE POINT of the thing to GET THE CANS ?
asciilifeform: 3) i won't spoil all of the surprises, but the usb gadget pictured in the photo on cryptomuseum's www does not look anywhere near large enough to contain, e.g., independent power source
asciilifeform: these outfits don't normally sell to governments (outside of turkmenistan's weight class) - these issue gear to own personnel -
mircea_popescu: wouldn't necessarily know anything, no. nevertheless... what government do they sell to ? turkmenistan ?
asciilifeform: and isn't it a private firm ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://viewdns.info/reverseip/?host=141.0.23.12&t=1 < this kind.
mircea_popescu: or in other words : bitcoin idiots / the sort of "entrepreneurs" gavin talks to weren't invented by bitcoin.
pete_dushenski: "i swear it wasn't us!"
asciilifeform: so it isn't a recent thing
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what keys are used in mpex is between the users and mpex, i haven't the slightest notion of what goes on there
mircea_popescu: it's exactly like the difference between knowing and not knowing that washing hands prevents peripueral fever. now, for as long as you don't know, you don't know. once you do know, it all reduces to a question of how well you washed your hands.
asciilifeform: <BingoBoingo> Eh, I'm not sure how many keys that get "life critical" use would be in the "strong set" anyways << mircea_popescu has a link earlier, with strong set, and how it doesn't seem to contain almost anyone we know of any reason to give a fuck about
asciilifeform: notice that being aware, isn't a get-out-of-shit card
BingoBoingo: Who hasn't. With all the mongo and the beans
mircea_popescu: isn't THE POINT of the thing to GET THE CANS ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> if you can be dekulakized - that wealth wasn't really yours. some nice fella just felt like letting you use it for a spell. << quite. and quite shockingly how it works in bitcoin too.
BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEbtN-aUUAA5317.jpg << lol Uk can't even be named
BingoBoingo: Now "phone home" isn't as bad as Hearn forking in March 2013, but phone home is still bad for people who chose Armory
asciilifeform: if you can be dekulakized - that wealth wasn't really yours. some nice fella just felt like letting you use it for a spell.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... because they will never own anything, and because they don't even know what that means << :
BingoBoingo: <trinque> the idea that saving isn't saving unless you're also receiving a return is itself braindamaged << But you aren't saving, you are lending
trinque: the idea that saving isn't saving unless you're also receiving a return is itself braindamaged
mircea_popescu: this isn't a worry. this is empathy. i understand how fucked the bug is, even as i crush it under my boot. it is, after all, a bug.
mircea_popescu: bitch, i don't "worry" about the future. i know what capital formation is, and what ownership is, and so on. these kids will never matter, because they will never own anything, and because they don't even know what that means.
decimation: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2015/04/scott_sumner_on.html < "One of the things that disturbs me about the current world--and this is irrational, I suppose--but it bothers me that my children are growing up in a time when the return to setting money aside for the future is close to zero. So, when you say to them, 'You could save some money and don't have to buy everything with the money you have,' their response, which is correct,
trinque: yeh I can twiddle the knobs on postfix, wouldn't mind sharing
asciilifeform: it isn't like enemy didn't get a copy of ciphertext in transit..
ben_vulpes: (and lots of stuff that isn't!)
asciilifeform: folks who don't give a damn ?
trinque: "When Arvo is working, ^C cancels the event it's working on. This event never happened. Don't worry, nothing bad will happen to your computer."
asciilifeform: (notably, esp8266 is a 3v part. don't overvolt it)
mod6: !t m s.mpoe
mircea_popescu: the facts usually aren't. the effort and sheer flailing people expend at trying topretend otherwise...
BingoBoingo: If rural king sold liquor and cigarettes I probably wouldn't ever have to shop anywhere else.
cazalla: sounds great, we don't have anything like that here, best we've got are big hardware monstrosity stores, somewhat American in size but still no chickens or guns to be had
mircea_popescu: why do we care why random nobody believes or doesn't believe, again ?
BingoBoingo: Wasn't looking to pick up a rosebush, but was at Rural King
mircea_popescu: somebody changed the title but didn't know how to change the url ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field btw, i don't think the pairs solution is the best thing. how about the following : cut keys into three groups. 1. keys that were submitted to web from outside ; 2. keys in the strong set ; 3. everything else. and always process 1, or if 1 empty 2, or if empty 3.
ascii_field: can't wait until 'ubuntu' ships with this.
mircea_popescu: Another alleged victim, Daniel, tells a similar story. After being subjected to sexual abuse at M&C, he wrote a suicide note: "I can't stop crying! Please God help me. I can't go on. I let them use me as a sex tool. I let those assholes do all those terrible things to me. Goodbye." His brother found the note and alerted their parents before Daniel made any attempt on his life.
fluffypony: I can't even remember the name
fluffypony: omg mircea_popescu you don't even know
fluffypony: he didn't notice them all lining up outside that guy's bedroom
danielpbarron: assbot cycled yesterday, so if you haven't upped since then, you aren't "authed"
mircea_popescu: ascii_field don't miss the most important point here. government has identified a new thing it could need money for.
diametric: shouldn't that technically be 2.82
mircea_popescu: downside being, of course, that we won't have any sort of usability in progress.
danielpbarron: he said he'd pop in here later, although I suspect that one wasn't actually him (someone else clicking the custom url)
jurov: won't it get slower over time as gcd grows?
mircea_popescu: it's also wrong because you don't actually need the millions
mircea_popescu: the "millions" mike hearn derps about aren't only broken because shit, we're worth billions, even if he personally isn't worth two spits.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah. wouldn't want random dude in a band that drinks too much read that and with his usual superficial comprehension skills decide 1% of keys are broken or some similar shit.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo for the record, "and found 60 with one or more duplicate moduli." is maybe misleading. it merely found the same key in multiple places, it hasn't actually cracked anything. << fxd
lobbes: which I always sort of bought into. I can't verify any of you really exist
lobbes: unless witnessed with own eyes, can't really verify one way or another. Of course, you can say that about any event
danielpbarron: i don't really give it much thought
mircea_popescu: as used above, it prolly doesn't.
from_vice: You sure this isn't a 911 truthers' forum? I have some thermite to sell
mircea_popescu: a right, we haven't fully colonized nubbins` yet. much like canada, he hangs on to antiquated forms that perpetuate the routing and interfacing differences in our society.
nubbins`: for those who still don't know wtf is going on, brush up on yr number theory
thestringpuller: "Again, why don't all devs that against this blocksize change come together, and ELI5 to the rest of us what are the cons. ELI5 is important if you want the public to understand your points. So for now Gavin has me convinced the change is necessary. Please Please Please...." to which someone replies "Heaven help us if we ever encounter an issue that requires more than a five-year-old's intelligence."
mircea_popescu: "What I don't see from you yet is a *specific and credible plan* that fits
mircea_popescu: "didn't happen in bezzle-land, didn't happen at all. icbc trades on pink sheets. world exists in my asshole"
mircea_popescu: startups, or volunteers who don't have millions in venture capital to play
mircea_popescu: shit asciilifeform they're not going to be so many that we don't reach 3.15 mn moduli are they!
assbot: Logged on 07-05-2015 09:53:33; davout: danielpbarron: you created the filesystem of your pogo on your local station amirite? messed a bit with fdisk but it looks like the pogo doesn't have any mkfs binary :/
davout: danielpbarron: you created the filesystem of your pogo on your local station amirite? messed a bit with fdisk but it looks like the pogo doesn't have any mkfs binary :/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for the record, "and found 60 with one or more duplicate moduli." is maybe misleading. it merely found the same key in multiple places, it hasn't actually cracked anything.
decimation: you know the next step... anyone who doesn't buy into python 3 is a racsis...
mircea_popescu: seems bizarre seeing how the earlier stuff was predicated on "we want to make the language WE enjoy using". what, guido doesn't speak english ?!
mircea_popescu: you don't speak english, you don't get to use computers. back to the cave.
mircea_popescu: decimation if they don't have the balls to step all over the "pep" and "rights" of the "core team" and do whatever they will, they probably don't have the strength to matter anyway.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't get it. if the language was good, who cares about a fork ? it can be ignored like gavincoin, or burned to the ground at that. if the language sucked, then well... ?
mircea_popescu: c) if people and companies invested time in shit that doesn't offer them a roi, this means they are stupid and should be punished. in no case does it mean they should get some compensatory candy.
mircea_popescu: b) why exactly is the expected "developing" ? afaik, a language should be set in stone. if this is the view entertained, what "evolution" the fuck do they wish ? if this isn't the view contemplated, why are they not on 3 yet!
mircea_popescu: this reads very brokenly to my eye, for many reasons, such as : a) people who can't afford things get no voice. this is what "financial reasons" means : shut the fuck up and go home. if you are poor, you aren't a person.
decimation: You can't use the word Python! We have rights!
mircea_popescu: moreover, i don't get the following sort of nonsense : "One solution is to fork Python 2.7, and continue developing the language, adding features in a backwards compatible way so large, unportable (due to financial constraints) Python 2 applications can continue to evolve and improve and bring value to the people and companies that invested so much time developing them. "
mircea_popescu: this is a non-issue. there's no homesteading in software. some derps using X language don't acquire some sort of "rights", just like gavin, that "bitcoin chamber of commerce" pageant chick or max keiser did not acquire any sort of property over bitcoin by derping on the margins of it with abandon.
mircea_popescu: decimation they lack the proper words to express themselves. what they mean is that it his private, sovereign domain, and he does whatever the fuck he likes, and anyone who doesn't care for it can go dangle.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/hai-sa-studiem-gramatica-impreuna/ << here's me lambasting romanioan "linguists" (they don't actually exist, just a buncha pretenders filling a void). sadly in romanian
decimation: yes, but I thought that you couldn't model language in this way
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i didn't run it, either.
asciilifeform: (it didn't change since you last asked!)
danielpbarron: "My awesome and super-collectible Romy kit included kick-ass furniture, like this gas tube with "Mihaela" on it and 12 notches. I don't get it, Mihaela is a Romanian female name and the guy only scored 12 of them."
mircea_popescu: governments routinely steal 20 years' worth of labour offa people, i don't recall the protests.
mircea_popescu: isn't this heap of dung fascinating, that whatever way you turn something oozes ? if only we were phorid flies.
mircea_popescu: basically, "The version of OpenSSL on RHEL5 (and its derivatives) doesn't advertise support for TLS at all. It only does SSLv3 and SSLv2.
BingoBoingo: trinque: But, the range of the nike is rather short. St Louis's Nikes couldn't hit Chicago and Vice Versa.
trinque: why the fuck wouldn't russia think we eventually intend to first-strike them
ascii_field: very easy to not give a fuck about a border that isn't through your house.