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nicoleci: BingoBoingo,
tried and received
the message: Agent admitted failure
to sign using
the key.
hanbot: mircea_popescu
there's maybe some complications in
terms of how much he likes you because of what you're saying, but i see.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: Could you please sign
the instructions?
mircea_popescu: hanbot, a dog will agree with on
the basis of how much he likes you, not on
the basis of what you're saying.
ossabot: Logged on 2017-04-19 11:33:43 mircea_popescu:
the problem with
this is
that it won't allow you
to see engineer-politicians, which is ALSO not compartimentalizable : it will force you
to beedog, ie, not become as good as expression and
telling women's original haircolor as you could, on
the basis of your genetics say, actually be.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-22 08:44:59 mircea_popescu: !!rate asciilifeform 2 if what you need done happens
to be what he feels like doing
that day he'll probably make you an excellent piece. if not,
there's no recourse, and you can't establish
this until after
the fact, he's utterly canine in his use of language.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in haremalia, "remind me when you
take your muffins out of
the oven, i've made brandied persimmons yesterday"
mircea_popescu: !!rate asciilifeform 2 if what you need done happens
to be what he feels like doing
that day he'll probably make you an excellent piece. if not,
there's no recourse, and you can't establish
this until after
the fact, he's utterly canine in his use of language.
mircea_popescu: !!rate asciilifeform 2 if what you need done happens
to be what he feels like doing
that day he'll probably make you an excellent piece. if not,
there's no recourse, and you can;t establish
this until after
the fact, he;s utterly canine in his use of language.
lobbes: better
than
the usual variety at least
lobbes: mircea_popescu: in any case,
tonight I plan
to
throw
together a quick article of my notes
BingoBoingo: Los sindicatos de Coetc y Ucot informaran que realizarían un paro el domingo 24 en el
turno nocturno por "motivos de seguridad"
BingoBoingo: In local news,
the night of November 24th, election night... Bus Driver's will be striking
mircea_popescu: lobbes,
arrived here, it's really high
time we compared notes. i have
that bash
thing
that
takes out
the relevant bits in my log format and forms proper lines out of
them ; it also chunks up
the file by date correctly. now, how do you do
the sql etc ? you have all
this already so i don't have
to re-do it i expect ?
mircea_popescu: in other wtf, awk does not have a native date increment ; people do insane shit like awk -F"\",\"" '{cmd="date -d \"$(date -d \""$0"\")+10days\" \"+%Y-%m-%d %T\"";cmd | getline datum; close(cmd); print $0 ",\""datum"\""}'
test.csv >
test-increment-10days.csv
BingoBoingo: It's for sure not enough
to start designing anything.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah, leads
to identifying "what an OS is"
to an "I know it when I see it" situation
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, hanbot
the problem with your approach is actionability, i expect.
mircea_popescu: i dunno where all
this spitting's happening ; i also dunno why you're so committed
to poor quality communication as an ongoing
thing, but at
this point whatevers. be back when you're back and all
that.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-21 06:42:27 mircea_popescu: it seems
to me
that
the only possible definition of "an os" as counterdistinct from "an app" is : a ~general purpose~ collection of software
tooling which ~agnostically~ as
to ulterior apps exposes fundamental, inherent functionality and limitation (mostly driven by
the very hardware) in an universal, principled way.
diana_coman: trinque: nobody knew what you were doing and
that's
the problem as far as I see it, not
the
timeframe.
trinque: you spat on my notion of consulting business, and now you spit on how fast
the
thing's coming
together
trinque: the
thing I was doing with deedbot was getting a
ticket
tracker
together so
this could actually be managed
trinque: to say nothing of
the actual economics of producing and maintaining such a complex item.
hanbot: s such a
thing as general reason,
the role of people
towards machines being
the
translation between
the
two, in
the first place.
hanbot: i don't know what's wrong with conceiving an os from
the known universe at
the
time of its conception. you have a manifest of ideals and ideas in
there, as you necessarily do in your head, and when it changes you're stuck patching.
the os should be for a cause,
then, but i don't know why
the cause(s) can't be explicitly stated, and structured, so you have a
tree of reason and not just results.
there's no such
thing as general purpose, but
there i
hanbot: inasmuch as you can't ever completely specify
the future, an attempt
to state
the purpose of an operating system is doomed
to fail either by getting something wrong, or by self-limiting solely for
the sake of avoiding
the first failure prong. i don't see a
third path. if honestly all you wanted
the os
to do was peel eggs you'd make an egg peeler application, not a kitchen; an "egg peeler os" is
the second failure prong, even if it's gloriously fr
diana_coman: if I'm
to see it as "os for a purpose",
then I go full way and it's really machine-for-a-purpose, from hardware up, everything; basically
there is no universal computer at all in reality, only various degrees of
trying
to fit an average (at best)
to all sorts of outliers.
diana_coman: hm, I had
to read
that quite a few
times
to stop mixing app and os and getting confused
there; I
tend
to
think
that
the OS should not attempt
to "for a purpose" mainly because a. still can't know it in advance and no matter how one defines it, in
time it will diverge from what's needed and here we go again b. I
think
the hardware is more of a cause
to start from. I went and re-read also spyked's previous attempts at ...
mircea_popescu: moreover,
that
the end result will be
the "discovery" (which of course "nobody could have predicted", as ethical failure ever goes) of
the... need for... an os, at
the "core" of all
these apps. basically we'd just be moving
the goalposts, after spending however long making "an os, you mean an app" we'd discover all we get for our
trouble is
the need
to rename our os an app and write an actual os, ie, back at square one
mircea_popescu: it seems
to me
that "special purpose os" is a contorted circumlocution for "an app". it futher seems
to me
that
the proposition "hey, you know how
to do
the
thing we don't know how
to do ? let's do what we know how
to do instead and call it good!" is fundamentally weak, ethically (ie,
that it's not driven by anything but convenience) ; and
that
the "make your os for a purpose"
thing is undistinguishable from it.
mircea_popescu: it seems
to me
that
the only possible definition of "an os" as counterdistinct from "an app" is : a ~general purpose~ collection of software
tooling which ~agnostically~ as
to ulterior apps exposes fundamental, inherent functionality and limitation (mostly driven by
the very hardware) in an universal, principled way.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in important policy discussions : i've been
thinking about
bvt's theory, and while i can't say i'm done
thinking nor much hope
to ever be, here's a major problem i encounter :
mircea_popescu: nfi why or what difference it makes, but
the reptile mind perceives it very
threateningly.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in fatfinger expertises, i've managed
to blank my scrollback somehow, mashing keyboard.
this somehow never occured before, and holy hell is it ~distressing~
mircea_popescu: in other news : Eulora server back online, new ip is 79.124.78.188 ; players on
the last client will have
to edit
their data/servers.xml
to reflect
the new ip
to be able
to connect. have fun y'all!
diana_coman: but maybe
this is a better plan! move my ip every few months and watch people find me!!!
diana_coman: yeah & lots more imaginary
to it but ...it's a lot
to hit him with in first 5 minutes anyway
diana_coman: I
tried
to
talk
to him a bit but I have no idea how much got
through
mircea_popescu: lol poor guy. why
the fuck does he
think a domain does anything
diana_coman: someone left some records pointing
to my new IP, what can I say; I don't... mind it.
mircea_popescu: in
the end
the
timeline is jan 12 2012 - mar 28 2016. introductory article just published.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, sweet. insallah
trilema's gonna start spitting logarticles
today.
mircea_popescu: trinque, looky here, i have a job
that needs done and a bunch of people who are interested in helpinh with it. for
the past month i've been considering you
to run
the doing, however as i sit here i still don't know if you are or are not going
to. you've not yet put out a plan for it, you've not said if you will, you've not set a date for it, you're just making occasional, impredictable and ~useless drive-bys
deedbot: 2019/11/20 05:08:04 <trinque> nearly done with
this experiment.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-14 15:46:23 mircea_popescu: wouldja be willing
to find something else ?
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-11-21 Jeff78:
The reason I'm interested in your project is because I saw
the domain eventix.de is directed
to your project. I've started my own business recently after I graduated.
To
take it of
the ground in germany I would be in need of
the domain
that is now pointing
to your website. Would you be open
to an offer from my side?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-14 15:46:23 mircea_popescu: wouldja be willing
to find something else ?
mircea_popescu: hanbot, you know, i
think
that's an excellent about page.
diana_coman: I've moved ossasepia.com
to 85.25.134.66 where I hope it will stay for longer really; please update hosts files accordingly and sorry for
the repeated moves; I've updated DNS records
too but
those might
take a while, as
they do.
lobbes:
http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-20#1951619 << when I make an actual post of an article, it drops
the entirety of
the content I was
trying
to post. If I'm updating an article, it drops
the entirety of additional content I was adding. Looks like your comment
test behaves differently. In any case, it behaves strangely
trinque: nearly done with
this experiment.
lobbes: My question for you is, do you ~want~
the
table/database utf8 charset extended
to 4 bytes
to store
these
things? Alternatively I guess I could just strip 'em out
lobbes: Now I've done some
testing, and setting both
the mysql server and
the
table
to use
the utf8mb4 character set allows
the eating of such uniturds
lobbes: mircea_popescu: In
trial-by-fire updates, it
turns out
that mp-wp appears
to barf on unicode such as " 😀 "
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Perfect storm. New monetize
the data derps versus
the social gospeltards
mircea_popescu: the social gospeltards' main instrument, crumbling into
the mud, spit and bullshit it was fashioned out of. and all
the righteous morons running around fixing it while denying its broken.
dorion will be more active next week, headed
to
the woods
to deer hunt
this weekend.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-16 22:58:47 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, im pleased
to report i buried your guy under enough material
to last him
the month lulz.
deedbot: dorion rated dorion_road 1 << my key for
the road, 201911-202001
BingoBoingo: Facebook had
to buy Instagram when Facebook stopped being cool with
the kids