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moriarty: mircea_popescu, i guess i can see why from a philosophical sense, if one has inclinations towards the literal and the objective
moriarty: mircea_popescu, so i suppose we ought to thank the popularists for at least reminiscing some of the past arguments for the popular public to enjoy a flavour of, and perhaps bring some publicity to what would otherwise be dusty fields relegated to the backshelves of some university library
mircea_popescu: i don't think the conversation is worth keeping up with.
moriarty: mircea_popescu, well, i guess it was easier being a popular philosopher or statistician in the past, when one did not have to read countless landmark academic papers in order to keep up with the conversation, as one has to these days
xmj: well yeah, people put all sorts of things on pedestals
moriarty: xmj, i am fully for stupid people not procreating, but i suppose that threatens the sanctity of humanity above the animal kingdom, we seem still unable to fully accept the depedestalisation of homo sapiens
moriarty: xmj, how much better are the neoreactionaries aiming for? :P
xmj: ayn rand did have a few cool things
moriarty: there's nothing new in both their works, for the inclined
moriarty: a popularist of sorts, amalgamating opinions of the past and attempting to take credit for it
mircea_popescu: i happen to be a taleb fan actually
mircea_popescu: moriarty you're wioth the "it's the protocols of sion v2.0" point of view ?
moriarty: Ayn Rand is the philosophical equivalent (you would know this better than me), of Nassim Taleb of the statistical world
moriarty: mircea_popescu, anyone gullible enough to believe the authenticity or originality of Ayn Rand deserves to live in Galt Gulch :P
xmj: and, some of the ideas particularly appeal. like, not having the social welfare state fund the procreation of stupid people, because... they're stupid.
xmj: moriarty: it's funny. i've seen the progression AnCap -> NRx happen a few times
xmj: we are going to do it better
xmj: no that's the neo part
mircea_popescu: wanted to lol with a ;ocal.
moriarty: xmj, neoreaction from first glance off the internet appears to be one of those anachronistic romanticism :)
mircea_popescu: <moriarty> mircea_popescu, UK, sorry to disappoint you in not being able to introduce fine latinas << nah it was because i was just laughing my ass off at this "galt's gulch" disaster.
mircea_popescu: that thing
xmj: parts of it are genuinely racist (they lablel themselves "human biodiversity" HBD)
moriarty: mircea_popescu, UK, sorry to disappoint you in not being able to introduce fine latinas
moriarty: xmj, thanks for the link
moriarty: mircea_popescu, heh, well i made a fortune off bitcoin, but i never saw the point in holding a strong philosophical stance on the utility of cryptocurrencies
assbot: A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: moriarty not the point to make a one liner, it's like chess. you construct his argument by asking me questions or w/e other discursive procedure you favour.
moriarty: mircea_popescu, well, i'd try not to dilute his book into a one-liner, but essentially a blend of technological warfare i.e. guns, a serendipitous adaptability to germs via advances in medicine, and progress in transport hulls made out of steel, which arose incidentally from ideal farming conditions e.g. arable land which gave rise to a choice of livestock, was why the seemingly unequal
mircea_popescu: bounce so then not so entrenched ?
mircea_popescu: reddit's been trying to coerce me for ages, so what ?
mircea_popescu: bounce that bit seems contradictory. how can you coerce the entrenched ?
xmj: he's pioneered a good deal of the "reactosphere" -- neoreactionary blogosphere
moriarty: xmj, i got routed to ##austrians from ##econometrics when someone made an observation that some of my comments leaned towards ancap tendencies, so i'm newer to the scene, although i've always found a blend of hayes/keynes economics to be most delightful
bounce: bit of a problem where all you get is package deals run by people who, because they run the show, suddenly have all sorts of entrenched interests and become vulnerable to all kinds and manners of coercion
mircea_popescu: moriarty yeah he's the guy who spent 2012 insisting bitcoin can't survive, then started a bitcoin kiler of his own which we kiled
moriarty: xmj, lol moldbug is a blogger, i take it?
mircea_popescu: well no, which is why celebrating traitors a la lincoln as some sort of national heroes is so mind boggling.
bounce: doesn't appear to've held up to the ages though.
mircea_popescu: let the us not be a federation of states but a marketplace of states.
mircea_popescu: bounce the original idea of "voting with feet" as implemented in the us is exactly that.
moriarty: Jared Diamond tries to take a holistic look into the apparently serendipitous distribution of wealth among nations
bounce: IMNSHO there's no universal magic perfect government size, so it comes down to choice. what do we want our government to do? well, maybe we could start a market to find out.
moriarty: mircea_popescu, Adam Smith is a classic if not a little dated, like most liberal arts field, perhaps it would be more helpful to consider more recent counterarguments like those by Jared Diamond
mircea_popescu: o look, xmj still derping around on the basis of his 3 year experience. hai babee, how goes.
xmj: moriarty: much better to read moldbug, be evil and call yourself royalist.
xmj: moriarty: trust me, i've been one for three years, i'd know.
xmj: moriarty: they talk, and talk, and push out academic papers- --- and never do antyhing.
assbot: A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: A complete theory of sociology pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
moriarty: xmj, it's an appealing ideology to be fair
mircea_popescu: you can't possibly allow change on the grounds of marketplace success like that.
mircea_popescu: well yes you know ? suppose zig ziglar sells a lot of books, and starts his own university, where he teaches kids words like "fail" don't exist.
mircea_popescu: well i implement it wherever i can. seen the economy and sociology articles ?
moriarty: what's your take on free market?
mircea_popescu: there's one language, it's purely conventional, this makes education purely arbitrary to begin with.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i believe "free market" education to be plainly idiotic.
moriarty: so you could almost say they are the teaparty equivalents of libertarians
moriarty: well, half of them are minarchists, the other half are anarcho-capitalists
gribble: The Mises Review: Anarchism/Minarchism: Is a Government Part of ...: <http://mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=340>; minarchist on Tumblr: <http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/minarchist>; Difference Between Minarchist and Anarchist? - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P-Ez5rMRxM>
gribble: Minarchism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism>; Anarcho-capitalism and minarchism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism_and_minarchism>; The Mises Review: Anarchism/Minarchism: Is a Government Part of ...: <http://mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=340>
moriarty: i was grossly disappointed to say the least
kakobrekla: eh the other link
kakobrekla: <punkman> http://i.imgur.com/35QZx6M.png < trade like chicken?
xmj: because it makes you lose money and they make a profit off that.
xmj: that's the thing a futures exchange would say.
punkman: "do not trade like a cow"
kakobrekla: in the spirit of user friendliness
bounce puts one and one together and starts cowriecoin. instant legit.
kakobrekla tempted to give them a gox response
Duffer1: 2 that someone signed up for it
Duffer1: 1 that this exists
kakobrekla: omg the people. http://shrani.si/f/21/py/4dZQY5ID/manupulate.png
Vexual: fuck your wnakholw then
cazalla: ya fox got mine last year, getting some pullets soon though
Duffer1: fresh eggs are pretty great though
cazalla: yeah sure, maybe i'll open my home as a restaurant where not only do you have to cook your own food like some places, you kill it too
Vexual: youll have to show me one time
Vexual: theyve got a thick neck on em
Vexual: id have to brain them
Vexual: i don't think ive ever eaten pet
Vexual: i dont think it would be right to shoot them in the hutch
cazalla: i dunno, i think the brits brought em here
cazalla: Vexual, wild would be nice, i wouldn't mind going hunting but never looked into what it takes to get a gun licence here
cazalla: funny, never had that issue with fish
cazalla: and then i cut myself half a dozen times butchering it as the adrenaline still had me shaky
cazalla: so i kill it except i don't break it's neck right and it's jumping around with it's head bent to the side, squeeling like fuck
cazalla: first one i did, i sat with it for about 15 minutes, patting it (big mistake), talking to it (big mistake)
cazalla: it's a waste eh, been meaning to learn how to tan but yet to get around to it
punkman1: no fur for the wife?
Vexual: and what do you do with the skins?
cazalla: 4-5 minutes if that
punkman1: how long it take you to skin one?
cazalla: first one i ever did, i fucked it up, adrenaline pumping and all that
Vexual: or a strong spring with some tool steel?
cazalla: it's over for them in seconds
cazalla: break the neck, slit the throat
Vexual: how do you dispatch with them when thet are destined for dinner?
Vexual: you might wanna eat it before the cute little fucker shakes you down
cazalla: i doubt the guy i bought em off fully knew their background anyway, there is always people flogging pure bred crap on gumtree that clearly is not