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decimation: this is
true, but
the us is itching
to start exporting natural gas by ship
moriarty: but also
the EU has more energy dependency on Russia
than
the US
mircea_popescu: moriarty no, because
the us is getting screwed in its imaginary economic war.
moriarty: because Germany has more
to lose
mircea_popescu: because
the eu is so fucking married
to
the us and everything.
decimation: last I read in
the newspapers, Germany is pretty much on Russia's side
moriarty: EU is
the one who has
to suffer
moriarty: well,
the US won't be affected by
the embargo so much actually
moriarty: decimation, but for
the cost of its own GDP
moriarty: decimation, in
terms of land grab, maybe
decimation: what exactly is
the us going
to do about
the ukraine? invade?
decimation: moriarty: it looks
to me russia has
the whip hand
mircea_popescu: russia is fine.
the us is
too high
to notice how fucked it's getting.
mircea_popescu: aggression is when it comes
to bomb canada and expects
the us
to mind its own fucking business.
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moriarty: mircea_popescu,
the passport outlines where china
thinks its borders are
decimation: they have been derping in
the south china sea recently
moriarty: mircea_popescu, have you seen
the latest china passport?
moriarty: mircea_popescu, china is actually pretty aggressive
territorially
bounce: the us not only has
the most advanced
toys anywhere, it relies on
them being so. china wouldn't have
to. big difference.
moriarty: "do
this or we won't sell you cheap shit"
bounce: sure. but you'll note
that when
the us started
to use all
those beltway bandit
toys
they broke in droves and could be pwned by IEDs
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mircea_popescu: or we could read secret dispatches, check out how
the various actors behave around it, who knows, even go
to a military expo.
moriarty: for now,
their leadership is even more pussyfooted
than obama
moriarty: until
the day it actually uses it, we can argue
to no end
bounce: if china cared enough it could zerg rush just about anyone. plus
their gear is getting better -- best stolen from anywhere.
mircea_popescu: you can
tell
this by
the very good predictor
that when china
told
the us
to get fucked,
the us secretary of state promised
to carefully avoid misunderstandings in
the future
moriarty: china has
to deceive russia into
thinking it is using some old aircraft carrier as museum showpiece
moriarty: and as of
this moment,
they are being led by a pussyfoot for a president
moriarty: the only country in
the world with serious military gear is
the US
decimation: reading
the history of
the falklands war demonstrates how
threadbare
the uk military really is
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decimation: I
think
they recently retired
their 'aircraft carrier'
decimation: yeah
they still have a handful of nuke subs
mircea_popescu: while england's own "fleet", w/e it is lol... do
they still have it btw ?
decimation: russia would love
to shower scotland with bezzlars so he could use
them as a wedge
to split
the eu
mircea_popescu: seemed
to me putin's counter
to
the ukraine. fuck with us, lose
the uk sorta deal.
decimation: and welfare states work much better when
the population is smaller
decimation: I suspect a big voting bloc were welfare recipients who feared
the sudden lack of welfare bezzlars
mircea_popescu: or maybe i don't well understand
the structures of incentive, not living
there
decimation: They should have allowed infants
to vote
mircea_popescu: i still dunno wtf
they did
to make such a wide margin happen.
decimation: It would be fun
to watch an english-speaking enclave go full libtard
decimation: independence would have been
the more amusing outcome, for sure
decimation: which is why victory is so
terrible for
the
triumphant empire
mircea_popescu: not sure how long
that lasts, and it selects negatively.
decimation: the illusion of a mysterious outcome keeps
the people invested
decimation: this is one of
the 'safety valves' of mass-democracy (like in scotland)
mircea_popescu: quite. and intellectually dead places go beddy-bye whether
they agree
they're intellectually dead or not.
mircea_popescu: for all anyone cares,
the ideas of midwest people re cattle and rain are right.
mircea_popescu: it's not even a matter of whether social justice and pc and
the rest of
the crap is right or wrong
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wants
to escape it. why ? and how is his desire different from young peasant kid in village in russia cca 1814
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decimation: this is an illusion
to some extant, because new york/coastal cities suck
the intelligent youth from flyover country
decimation: heh. he did spend most of his life adventuring among
the gauls
mircea_popescu: in
the sense
that a boring place can not have interesting people.
decimation: in
the sense
that
the dying country will split rather
than come under stronger central rule?
decimation: I suspect
the American Caesar walks
the earth somewhere
mircea_popescu: left
to stand on its own, buffett's "immense potential" will die under
the paws of some young lion
moriarty: didn't
the 1800s also work because EU projected its dominance globally
through colonialism?
mircea_popescu: it got a lease on life once eu once again decided
to mismanaged, ]
decimation: yeah
that died with wwi, wilson and fdr
mircea_popescu: decimation
the 1800s worked because at
the
time europe was mismanaging human resources, and so you could actually get free value by just
taking its rejects.
then early 1900s worked because
the whole country obeyed its betters, so carnegie, rockefeller et co could create a monopoly on
the world.
decimation: when I was younger, I wanted
to explore
the infinite potential
moriarty: most people i know who like coding actually mistake
their liking for solving puzzles, for liking coding
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah reading your blog has removed
the romance of programming for me
moriarty: asciilifeform, yeah i
think nobody likes coding for
the sake of coding
moriarty: awh :) daybyter wanted
to say something on
the main
decimation: I
think it has been mooted here
that
the reason why
the early (1800's) us worked for awhile is because of
the memories of law&order beaten into
the parents & grandparents of
those living here
mircea_popescu: by now it's a good
three centuries plus a world explored past its sell by date
mircea_popescu: the current libtards are really just
trying
to do a sort of "being cinderella" except a little deeper
than disney