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decimation: in practice
the design space is restricted, just like all phones are iphones now
decimation: in
theory silicon could be masked into any arbitrary design
mircea_popescu: back
then people hadn't figured what
the pc is, so
they just bolted some capitalistic crap
to
the sides
decimation: yeah
there's no reason why
the cpu shouldn't support arbitrary precision arithmetic, even if it
takes a lower-level state machine
to emulate
decimation: mircea_popescu:
the bane of numerical analysis students?
decimation: I see how one would want a 'habitable' lower-level simulation language
to accomplish
this work
decimation: in which case each
type combination would need its own machinery, or at least some method
to convert between
types
mircea_popescu: i didn't like
the "were possible" part. either always, in which case it's a calculator, or forget it.
decimation: how do you re-use
the quicksort for floats?
decimation: asciilifeform: I agree
that would be a great goal, but how do you handle
types?
mircea_popescu: and i want
to accomplish
this by replacing quicksort.package with bubblesort.package
mircea_popescu: however,
that's not
the point. suppose i want my machine
to always use bubblesort. everywhere
decimation: mircea_popescu:
the kernel kinda works
that way
mircea_popescu: that may explain how we ended up with
the current usg.
mircea_popescu: if it's voluntary, if
the prickly is passive,
then
the other party is active, and
to
the active goes
the agency.
mircea_popescu: maybe wrongly, but
the
term
to me suggested involuntary and incontinence. which is what
the entire observation was based on, after all :
mircea_popescu: but
that is a much more self aware, and effectually applied, violence
than mere prickliness.
mircea_popescu: i would suggest
the volume in and of itself is proof
they say nothing.
decimation: moriarty earlier said
that such an attitude is 'simplistic' - after all, how can
these people (economists, programmers, students) have so many papers and have said nothing?
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, for
the capacities of
the basic rational agent,
they'd seem
to have a point,
too!
mircea_popescu: proponents of such
tailored "knowledge" will understandably fight
tooth and nail with some classes of rational approach, such as
the people who use
the counterexample effectually (aka,
trolls)
mircea_popescu: decimation it's worse
than
that! consider : you could pick arbitrary assumptions and arbitrary data sets so as
to
theoretically and practically justify a particular
theory sufficiently so
that it gives
the desired results for a FINITE
time interval, calculated
to exceed
the probable
testing period.
decimation: re: model being horeshit: "Because, we know
that with
theoretical cherry picking someone can come up with a set of assumptions
that produces a result
that may logically follow from
those assumptions, but if
the assumptions really don't have much
traction in
the real world,
that result really doesn't have much
to say about what we are actually looking at. " << from my econtalk link above
mircea_popescu: hence boundless ignorance ?
that ignorance ignorant even of bounds ?
decimation: the next step is
to become a hermit in
the
taiga I guess
mircea_popescu: you can't become prickly just because people are idiots. it's giving idiots
too much say.
ben_vulpes is a monkey with
tools beyond his sophisticaiton
mircea_popescu: me splitting with everyone's cash because some redditard says
things ?
mircea_popescu: but what would be
the equivalent
to "lisp people being prickly" in context ?
mircea_popescu: nevertheless
the world and his like have no common points.
mircea_popescu: important
to remember
that his declarative statements are powerless
to influence reality, and as much as he'd like
to live in a world where
there's no incentive for me
to stay honest,
mircea_popescu: this should make it obvious. of course redditard monkey would love nothing more
than for his idiocy
to be confirmed.
mircea_popescu: "The site is owned by
the most annoying, donkey riding arsehole involved with bitcoin." "Unlike all
the others, owned by nice people
that ran off with your coins." "I wish
that arsehole would run off with all
the coins if it meant never hearing from him again."
mircea_popescu: and if you conform by doing
the "since
they call me a
thief anyway might as well", you are actually giving away
that much power.
mircea_popescu: this is what i meant, obliquely. if you allow
the "community" of screaming monkeys
to decide whether you are antisocial
type 1 or 2, you're giving
them
too much power.
mircea_popescu: i can't read locklin without him annoying me. such a
total schmoozeball.
mircea_popescu: everything
that passport.net did or w/e
that crap was called
decimation: no dude node.js is going
to change everything
bounce: saves going door
to door
ben_vulpes: also infected with "niceness" - don't
talk shit on js! it's not nice!
ben_vulpes: witness
the insane popularity of v8 - js on
the server!
ben_vulpes: programmers are
the herdiest of creatures
mircea_popescu: if your highschool peers can make you antisocial by claiming you're antisocial
then
there's no incentive for
them
to abstain is
there.
mircea_popescu: "But part of it definitely stems from
the incessant stream of ignorant criticisms leveled at
the Lisp community by outsiders" asciilifeform it occurs
to me
that if
the outsiders can do
that
then
the whole ecosystem empowers outsiders
to an outrageous, unwarranted and quite dangerous degree.
mircea_popescu: "one of
the great strengths of
the APL ecosystem so far are
the user community. Lispy people are a preposterously pricklish and unhelpful bunch in comparison."
mircea_popescu: trilema is really non-js friendly so i guess it prolly has more nonjs readers
than average interwebs
mircea_popescu: well i guess if
they have silent (non js, non url-forwarding etc) browsers it could be from anywhere
decimation: interesting. So
that means people are visiting from bookmarks/rss/etc?
mircea_popescu: they're not redirects. in fact, linked
traffic has always been 10% or less, as far as
trilema is concerned.
decimation: huh. do
the redirects come from particular domains?
mircea_popescu: seriously, 20% of my search
traffic came looking for... "true" ? what
the fucking hell of a cosmic joke is
this.
decimation: from military service, and free land
to farmers. By
the end of 1767, German settlers from central Germany had established more
than 100 colonies along
the Volga River, near Saratov, Russia."
decimation: "The Germans from Russia are descendents of Germans who settled in Russia in
the years about 1763
to 1862.
Their story begins with
Tsarina Catherine II (Catherine
the Great) who was empress of Russia, but a German princess by birth. In July 1763 she issued a manifesto
to attract people from Western Europe
to settle in Russia.
The manifesto promised new settlers freedom of religion, freedom from
taxes for a 5-30 year period, freedom
mircea_popescu: sooo... yesterday was
trilema's largest reading day. yet nothing happened. 90%+ of it direct,
too. wtf.
decimation: the mass rabble in
the us will have no stomach for intervening in
the ukraine
moriarty: anyway one of
the nice perks of
the war is
that, Ukrainian beauties now come cheap
decimation: Odessa used
to have a very large german population until Stalin
mircea_popescu: "let's save
the environment by shipping natural gas across
the atlantic because we're
too bigmouthed
to fit a cock"
bounce: so, us gas aid for ukraine
then?
decimation: no one is going
to go without gas or whatever