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JuliaTourianski_: in the order of speaker
mircea_popescu: BCB that's the tell tale sign of a good btc expert
Dimsler: we are ruling that anyone that gives you attention
BCB: JuliaTourianski_: should should put captions with the speakers names. I don't recognize half those guys
JuliaTourianski_: so what has the jury decided? whose pulling my strings? alex jones? berwik? amir? shrem? ahah
mircea_popescu: it's just that the gear switch from derpyland to btcland is bound to culture shock a little.
JuliaTourianski_: +mircea_popescu u guys seem to have personal man beef with a lot of these ppl. this is where being a blonde girl helps, no egos.
mircea_popescu: this "people make mistakes" bull is much too soft for btc.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_> he worked with lawsky, thinking it would give him immunity for regulation and then he was fucked. << This is why you can't plea out ever.
Dimsler: on the entire planet
JuliaTourianski_: he thought he was immune and he wasn't . lesson learned maybe. he's a good guy, ppl make mistakes
Dimsler: how the fuck can you be an anarchist living in canada anyway
mircea_popescu: it's not that "he worked" and "thinking" etc. he made a career out of thinking he knows better than me,
JuliaTourianski_: so the line is perfect.
JuliaTourianski_: he worked with lawsky, thinking it would give him immunity for regulation and then he was fucked.
Dimsler: i mean whats the point?
Dimsler: i get the pun
mircea_popescu: that dun make much sense to me
JuliaTourianski_: is that lost on u lot?
JuliaTourianski_: did u see the LINE i gave shrem
Dimsler: and completely cooperated and ratted out half of the btc community
mircea_popescu: it works the other way around.
JuliaTourianski_: +mircea_popescu one or two rotten cherries don;t kill the tree
BCB: Dimsler: and he'll get less then 5 years
mircea_popescu: so no, this scummy "oh the message is nice anyway" carries no water.
JuliaTourianski_: +mircea_popescu there are a lot of ppl in the vid. the non scammers whoever u may think they are cancel out the scammers, whoever u think they are
Dimsler: bless that man
Dimsler: funded a tonne of silkroaders
Dimsler: well shrem straigh tup
mircea_popescu: a point shrem is not able to regret enough.
mircea_popescu: generally speaking, the most damage you can do to yourself is associating yourself with idiots and scammers
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ take the case of jeff. he's an idiot, and now a fraudster. not for any reason than misassociation.
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, the people you have in that video
danielpbarron: what's with this +nickname thing? what client does that?
julles: cazalla, hi, sorry I never introduced myslef. I'm julles, I like what you guy do and have no relation whatsoever with the julles you're thinking of ;)
BCB: mircea_popescu: he has a broad knowledge of the bitcoin echosphere. Have you ever meet him in person?
mircea_popescu: wd, but that's idiocy in action.
mircea_popescu: "x is smart" "why" "because i think he is" "why" "because he is"
Dimsler: he sold all his bitcoins for a few t-shirts
mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski_ you have much to learn.
JuliaTourianski_: anyways. my point is, look at the big picture. there are good people in the declaration vid. most importantly it's a message I strongly believe in. so scammers or not, the message stays the same.
danielpbarron: well he's smart enough to figure out a way to get 30k BTC out of all the fools who aren't patient enough to just buy Bitcoin and hold it
Dimsler: in that hilarious compound these crackheads were staying at?
Dimsler: man didn't amir lose a toe or something
BCB: mircea_popescu: I've read his writing. He is one of the most articulate writers on bitcoin.
BingoBoingo: <JuliaTourianski_> I dont trust him either but I trust him to know if armory is good << The way trust works is if you dun trust someone, you can't trust them to tell you icecream is good.
mircea_popescu: what makes you think vitalik is smart ?
JuliaTourianski_: +Dimsler trust me...i know all there is to know about the ethereum issues. i wont comment further
Dimsler: what are you talking about
danielpbarron: "i don't trust him but i trust him." hm, ok
JuliaTourianski_: I dont trust him either but I trust him to know if armory is good
BCB: JuliaTourianski_: be nice. just tell us your first language.
JuliaTourianski_: +BCB fuck off. that's the worst thing anyone has said to me yet :P
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: I dun really trust Vitalik
danielpbarron: you trust vitalik??
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo im sorry hun, i dunno what that means. all i know I've been using armory. and it's rated to be the most secure by vitalik and I trust robots :D
danielpbarron: lol, "berwick is berwick." the polite way to say someone is a weirdo
JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla amir is a ot a scammer. alex...I'm deciding on alex. ive spoken to him personally since, and I dont like the direction he's going lately. berwick is berwick. how about the rest of the ppl in there? all scammers?
mircea_popescu: how did you come to that conclusion ?
Dimsler: i can't tell if born or not
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_ is going to get eaten alive
BCB: Dimsler: thx
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo expand- last i saw was some reddit criticism they were addressing on privacy issues
BingoBoingo: If they do that... What else can they do?
cazalla: julles, i'm not dismissing you or suggesting any sort of conspiracy but it raises ones suspicion when novice makes video and is seen with scammers the likes of amir, berwick, alex jones and his puppets
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: I mean the user phoning home stuff.
HeySteve: is the phone home issue fixed or what?
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo they always work on their feedback no?
JuliaTourianski_: +Dimsler the only reason the comment gets to me, is cuz I truly believe in everything I say and it sucks to be doubted in that. but I'm still fresh so fine. i don;t expect to be granted respect. I'll work for it. but dismissing people off the bat is just as bad no?
BingoBoingo: <JuliaTourianski_> I'm doing a guide on offline wallets using armory, and i was using armory for a year now and offered to do it. when that comes out u can say Trace Mayer is pulling my strings right? see how that works << Are you familiar with Armory's poor behavior?
JuliaTourianski_: +Dimsler I've been an anarchist a while. i was writing for mises.ca for a year prior to doing btc stuff
JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla we all started out as a novice. I wrote that myself. i was inspired and excited. that's all. i wanted to bring the community together :) it was fun. u dont need to trust it
Dimsler: what happend to just storing your wallet offline at home?
Dimsler: well why does it have to be armoury for storing offline wallets
JuliaTourianski_: +Dimsler i have certain advantage being me, but yes, ppl don;t take me seriously. when i go to these conferences it's telling. and everyone thinks im there with my bf. I'm not complaining, becuase once they bother to speak to me I show them I'm actually into BTC and the judgement dies.
cazalla: JuliaTourianski_ i'm just saying i don't trust random novice who starts making videos declaring bitcoin's independence with other known scammers
cazalla: Dimsler, not really, this goes back to chat on how nigerians craft their emails
JuliaTourianski_: I'm doing a guide on offline wallets using armory, and i was using armory for a year now and offered to do it. when that comes out u can say Trace Mayer is pulling my strings right? see how that works
Dimsler: like i think shes got her work cut out for her
Dimsler: seriously whose going to take a cute blonde girl seriously?
Dimsler: cazalla, no i think its the exact opposite
JuliaTourianski_: i have made 0 videos for anyone, so I'm confused with this whole convo
cazalla: JuliaTourianski_ as said vagina has nothing to do with it but a pretty girl is useful to get across the message, maybe you start making videos on ethereum soon?
HeySteve: ok well tell him he was wrong about GHash cartel monopolising Bitcoin mining as per anarchists: https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrs
JuliaTourianski_: it's not a sexist thing. it is what it is. it makes a difference both ways
Dimsler: you're in the wrong channel if you think that
JuliaTourianski_: everyone cares. lol it's naive to say you don;t
Dimsler: no we don't care in here that you have a vagina
HeySteve: JuliaTourianski_ did u interview the hexayurt designer in that video posted above?
JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla would u think the same if I was a dude in a t-shirt?
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski_, the question was pretty innocent
JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla yeah you don;t know- maybe there's not much to know.
JuliaTourianski_: +Dimsler I'm friends with everyone in the declaration video..that's a lot of ppl, so whcih ones are pulling my strings? don;t cherry pick eh
Dimsler: alex jones that clown
Dimsler: even went to the bilderberg group
cazalla: JuliaTourianski_ given i've seen a lot of you and paul joseph watson (alex jones puppet), perhaps that is the direction i should start
JuliaTourianski_: you just dismissed a huge chunk of the btc space based on nothing.
Dimsler: amir taaki and the etherium clowns
JuliaTourianski_: if i'm associated with everyone, then who is pulling my strings?
Dimsler: you're just associated with the mainstream clownery