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pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ancestors need not be a group or identify
themselves as part of one
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: if no change,
then it depends on how useful holding descendants accountable is. < no, i'm with him.
this makes exactly zero sense, chiefly because a group may be ridiculous, impractical, suicidal, anything you wish, but never wrong. only individuals can be wrong, in
that
they don't subscribe
to
the moral scheme of some group
they intend
to be part of.
ther
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it's just
that
the gear switch from derpyland
to btcland is bound
to culture shock a little. << on
the moolah
mircea_popescu wonders if
the SEC, ever so careful with
these
things, is yet investigating
the underhanded practices of matt barrie &co
mircea_popescu: look at
that, freelancer.com is spamming unregistered share sales offers!
mircea_popescu: "Join
the Freelancer Shareholder Foundation Program and get a discount on WSO listing fees"
mircea_popescu: jurov: CheckDavid send him
to verious btc conferences. At least you'll get rid of him for a
time. << i like how practical jurov is. yeah, best move
there.
Azelphur: his family lives just around
the corner from me
Azelphur: I've met
taaki a couple
times now
mircea_popescu: you don't need or want an oven
to light your cigarette.
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid: Sincerely don't know. << nobody EVER liked html email. and
there's a pretty good argument
that it's completely a
tech misapplication, like
the cigarette lighter oven.
mircea_popescu: kinda well known psychology,
this, hence
the memory effect and all
that.
mircea_popescu: too much cognitive dissonance
to handle, 500 idiots keep
telling
them how special
they are
then mp says stfu and crochet.
Azelphur: I still don't
think genjix should be discounted as a programmer
though, he's a damned good one and
that'd be one hell of a waste.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: haha, over
the years I've learned you're generally right about
these
things :P
mircea_popescu: but hey, kids know better and i am just hating
their genius.
mircea_popescu: i
told him
to stfu and mind his own business like 3
times.
Azelphur: but nah, I agree he was a
terrible businessman, but
then nobody should have put him in a business position anyway, he's a programmer
pete_dushenski: Azelphur: nah see JuliaTourianski_ and you have
that in common ;)
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: +cazalla +mircea_popescu didn;t see
that sorry- you guys do realize I literally know evryone in
the space and am "associated" with everyone, depending on how you look at it. <<
this is gold
Azelphur: I always feel like
the only person who actually likes him
pete_dushenski: lol russian bathhouse?
thought she was in
the 52nd state
mircea_popescu: also wow, she's still connected off a freenode instance ? what
the fuck industrial strength internet
they have down at
the russian bathhouse!
pete_dushenski: ;;later
tell asciilifeform
thank you for recommending "the sultans" !
pete_dushenski: this lends itself
to continuity, stability, and other "good
things" imo
pete_dushenski: so while "rarely anyone does" in
the post 19th century west, most other
times and places
take
their ancestors quite seriously
pete_dushenski: this, of course, opens one up
to being
twist
turned upside down
pete_dushenski: if
they're dead, we can choose
to ignore
their actions and pretend like
tabula rasas are possible
pete_dushenski: but in
this specific instance, it's not clear
that either has changed.
pete_dushenski: and surely whether or not
they hold "the other" accountable for
the actions of
their forefathers
pete_dushenski: if no change,
then it depends on how useful holding descendants accountable is.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes:
there's no sense in holding "a people" or "a community" liable for actions of
their ancestors, is
there? << sorta depends, did "the people" meaningfully change since
their ancestors? do
they still
tie up
their shoes
the same way? still read
the same books?
time doesn't necessitate change.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ahjahaha what ? pete meets a neonazi ? lmao. << gotta stir
the pot, y'know?
pete_dushenski: ;;later
tell JuliaTourianski_ whereabouts in canada are you living?
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CheckDavid: jurov:
the capital of stone soup is in my country lol
CheckDavid: Oh. I definitely will communicate interesting job offers
to anyone interested. But now I am on a phase of building a base of employers in
the bitcoin community
jurov: but if you insist emailing reddit herd or such,
that's up
to you
jurov: perhaps something will pique my interest. and
there are more such people in
this chan
CheckDavid: jurov: you want
to know about our job.offers?
jurov: dude
there are few people seeking gigs. no need
to be obtuse
CheckDavid: jurov: I can. I am gauging for
the demand bitcoin businesses have for certain professionals. Depending on each business needs, I will send an personalized email accounting for
their vacancies
jurov: you know, I got lots of spam about "IBM jobs offers". your offer will end up in
the
trash promptly
together with
them
CheckDavid: jurov:
that's masterful social engineering. But is
there.more
than just getting rid of him? Lol
jurov: You will never get in
touch with someone who matters by spamming.
jurov: CheckDavid send him
to verious btc conferences. At least you'll get rid of him for a
time.
chetty: well be aware
that most people will not accept html formats, any one with sense
that is
CheckDavid: Wastes over an hour
to make HTML emails
CheckDavid: Is plain
text good, or are fancy HTML
templates worth it?
CheckDavid: I wanted
to ask what you guys
think about B2B email communications in
the bitcoin industry
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jurov: even my lesbian friends considered
this utterly disgusting
xmj: well i'll just revert
to plonking you
Vexual: fifteen minutes an fourty
three seconds, struth mate
Vexual: well he might pick it up and
throw it
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: Looks like a foul. Wasn't quite caught, so doubt it is a foul
tip.
midnightmagic: BingoBoingo: what happens
there? why isn't
the guy running for 1st? is
that one of
those auto-outs..?
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 51 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, 3 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <nefario>
Those assets are not listed or
traded anymore
gribble: genjix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 50 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <genjix> nefario is legit. for sure
there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get
their bitcoins back. i
trust
the guy.
Vexual: perhaps like a good cup of
tea where nothing goes wrong asccii
xmj: asciilifeform: work drink is when your boss forces you
to have wine or beer during lunch,
then watches how you work in
the afternoon and fires your lazy ass in
the evening.
Vexual: don't ask
that, hes
the boss
ben_vulpes: anyways,
the butternut squash and ricotta gnocchi are up and i'm caught up on logs so meditate on what else beyond
time bitcoin might break on its wheel y'all.
ben_vulpes: which supports my point of block interval as fundamental unit of
time.
mircea_popescu: and
that is what
time means anyway, entirely, as discussed above.
ben_vulpes: registrar doth not confer
time magically,
though
mircea_popescu: because
the include block hash only puts a minimum into
the pie, not a maximum.
the deeds registrar does both.
mircea_popescu: my observation was
that as long as you're implementing
this, you're better off with
the b-a registrar
than with your "include block hash and sign"
ben_vulpes: if you need precise
time measures, watch an atom wobble. if you need "thing happened at
time", measure it by block number.
ben_vulpes: still, rolling eyes.
the only important
thing is which block
the event confirmed in.
mircea_popescu: it just means
the previous, fiat approach
to creating an arbitrary
timeline has been replaced by a bitcoin, similarly arbitrary approach
ben_vulpes: that just means
that
the consensual
time
thing is poorly fucking engineered.