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The20YearIRCloud: The promise
to pay for all
the Ohio plants is pretty simple, if you can obtain credit
they'll extend payment over summer months, but quite a few can't qualify for it
The20YearIRCloud: Ohio has a freeze deal where if it's below freezing
they won't shut it off
till it
thaws out,
then
they shut it off
mp_sails: can't cu
tpower if it's cold. or hot. or if
the deadbeat has a doctor's note. or makes a promise
to pay
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The20YearIRCloud: mp_sails: looking real quick at what places do it, it seems NY and CA do
that, but i can certify
that in Ohio,
they cut your power
mp_sails: if you
think you just cut power
to
the deadbeats and
that's it you're living a dream.
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mp_sails: they have
to spend $1k
to install fancy stuff so nonpayers can be "limited", it's a whole shitshow
The20YearIRCloud: Power plant isn't also required
to give free electricity out.
They can cut people off
mp_sails: yet at least. maybe
they elect al gore and it goes
there.
mp_sails: but you know what ? power plants are also expenmsive, and
the staff qualified. yet
the kwh is not $850
mp_sails: which is about where igt is. i mean yeah sure
the equipment is expensive and
the staff has ot be qualified.
The20YearIRCloud: $2,500.
The independent clinics
that did MRIs and a few other small
things ranged from $149
to
the very highest at $279
The20YearIRCloud: In Columbus, a group got
together and called every single hospital, and every single MRI clinic and got
the price for
their MRI scans.
The average hospital (Which is highly regulated,
takes government money, is required by law
to provide everyone with medical care regardless of whether
they can pay and so on) ran from a minimum of $1600
to a maximum of
The20YearIRCloud: But, you don't have
to go
to a hospital
to get one, you can go
to a healthcare clinic
that isn't attached
to any government program, isn't required
to pay any government fees and
the like, and
they magically cost $149, using newer machines
mp_sails: somehow. and eu doctors are slightly overqualified when compared
to us.
The20YearIRCloud: But, when you go
to a 'hospital' and get a MRI,
they're $1k-$2.5k
The20YearIRCloud: There's a MRI comparison. What's interesting
though is
that MRIs are one of
the few healthcare
things
that aren't strictly regulated in
the US
assbot: Why an MRI costs $1,080 in America and $280 in France -
The Washington Post
mp_sails: insanely expensive when compared
to
the e80 a cab would
take, but not
the $18k or whatever insanity
mp_sails: if i actually sailed myself i'd prolly sink
the whole show
mp_sails: mthreat, well no, im sitting an'
typing, but im close
to people
that do.
mp_sails: The20YearIRCloud,
the most obvious display of
this being if you compare say an emergency apendectomy in lyons and miami
jborkl: ok,
thank you I have been busy fixing all
the ssl crap and forgot about everything else
The20YearIRCloud: After 1964 you also see dozens, if not hundreds of large-scale laws dealing with
the medical industry, when prior
there were few if any laws regarding healthcare in
the US
mp_sails: asciilifeform, southern hemisphere is not
that well illuminated anyway
BingoBoingo: jborkl: Lock apprears. Also, maybe update
the BFL
thing again...
The20YearIRCloud: IT was a part of Johnson's plan of buying all
the poor people votes in
the US by pushing
through medicare/medicaid
mp_sails: doctors or farmers, whatever
they be
mp_sails: the people you can't under any circumstance sacrifice are
the 20somethings with a career.
mp_sails: tbh it'd be mjuch more sensible
to jjust shoot everyone and keep
these guys
than
the other way around.
mp_sails: ben_vulpes, pretty much half or more of
the young professional, 10-20mn people are in
this position
mp_sails: jurov, doctors dont really control it
tho
ben_vulpes: <mp_sails> mats_cd03, look into
the crazed effects on
the lower middle class, where people who could afford insurance before can't anymore,
too. because htey're now not poor enough
to be poor and not rich enough
to be rich. <<
true story. i can't really afford
the shit now.
mp_sails: mthreat, for because
the navigational reason.
jurov: The20YearIRCloud as i see it from here,
the US doctors first decided
they must control healthcare
mp_sails: i can't believe after all
these years satellite is still
this shitty.
The20YearIRCloud: because
the 'poor man' couldn't afford healthcare, which back
then was 1/3rd
the cost of what it was even factoring in inflation
The20YearIRCloud: Insurance is a complicated mess in
the US, it all started back when
the govt first decided
they should control healthcare
jborkl: I moved everything
to ssl and it should all be green. You guys mind giving it a
test and
tell me if it all seems good
bounce: now you need DHMO
to wash
the evil CTCP out of your macbook
mp_sails: well yeah i guess
there is
that.
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: a cool. how are you enjoying b-a
thus far?
mp_sails: as in,
they can't give a better life policy
to
the guy who owns a shipping line
they insure
than
to random clerk walking in off street.
mp_sails: asciilifeform, im not entirely sure how all
the intricacies work but if memory serves
they were actually legally barred from considering prior commercial relationship
mp_sails: this was many years ago. not sure
they even offer it sanymore.
bounce: well,
there's good advice. get your US insurance at lloyd's
mp_sails: (on
the grounds
that
they did cover say a boat once, and behaved as an insurer as opposed
to what passes for such in
the us)
mp_sails: like
the bridge
that fell into
the river. once done falling, it's ready
to be inaugurated.
mp_sails: bounce, no, but by now nothing is failing spectacularly further, so
the propaganda machine is gearing up
to counting it as a success.
mp_sails: it cost me, get a load of
this, it cost me ~100 pounds for a year's worth
bounce: this has been such a pile of fail
that I've been ignoring it. I don't suppose anything actually improved measurably, did it?
mp_sails: for instance : when i visited
the us, i got insurance for pretty much everything except electives.
mp_sails: asciilifeform,
this is complicated.
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mp_sails: mats_cd03, look into
the crazed effects on
the lower middle class, where people who could afford insurance before can't anymore,
too. because htey're now not poor enough
to be poor and not rich enough
to be rich.
pete_dushenski: JuliaTourianski_: mhm,
then i kept reading
the logs and saw missisauga, neh?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: your explanation has more
than sufficed for
the
time being,
ty :)
JuliaTourianski_: pete_dushenski were you asking where I'm from or was
that someone else
mp_sails: and
then a year later had 10k or so signups a month.
mp_sails: mats_cd03, easy
to convince you now :
the obamacare website was offline for months after it supposedly launched,
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: an ssd isn't as effective at writing and reading?
then from where do
they derive
their speed benefits?
mp_sails: a) it has not helped a lot of poor and b) all
the unhelped poor
that were fine before are suddenly "unnacounted" for.
mp_sails: mats_cd03: on
the other hand, obamacare has and will heal a lot of poor << obamacare is sort-of like
that
thing where
they destroy a neighbourhood, build a huge condo complex and give five activist "poor" people free housing.
mp_sails: assbot: Feds say Bitcoin miner maker Butterfly Labs ran systematic deception | Ars
Technica << and only
two years late.
mp_sails: olil3olli3, dude srsly stop with
the join spam
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Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
xanthyos: isnt'
that what it
takes
to get voiced?
mp_sails: CheckDavid: How can bitpay have more profit
than sales ? << lmao
xanthyos: woah, i'm in assbot's l1? i don't deserve
that.
pete_dushenski: that hard drive annual failure rate
thing had me hunting
pete_dushenski: speaking of laptops,
til
that
the macbook air's ssd is of a mystery brand until you personally crack open
the unibody case and look inside
mp_sails: i have
this in common with your
top clearance defense contractor :
that i lug a stack of laptops.
pete_dushenski: mp_sails: so how long of a cruise are you
taking
that you lugged a laptop along?
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mats_cd03: ben_vulpes: you found
this girl in portland i suppose?