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asciilifeform: there are other sponsors - but most of them require an 'in.' (ethnic, familial, whatever kind of 'in'). only one sponsor has press-gangs on the streets, taking all-comers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is also, in a fairly large geographic zone, the only readily-accessible sponsor of many activities a thinking man (or 'man of action') would like to take up.
mircea_popescu: decimation: usg is the unintentional beneficiary of a great deal of "I want to make a difference" altruism << so no, it's not altruism. unrelated to that, there's a lot of "usg is the only obvious recipient for a bunch of faking of the <i want to not have sex but for everyone in school to think i do> sort."
mircea_popescu: ownership is a convention, meaningless outside the convenants.
mircea_popescu: who claims to own it... whatever, im sure the fish acting as host for whatever parasite's obligate fish phase are "owned" by someone, at least according to them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the u.s. army installation i once worked in had the biggest, fattest herds of deer i've ever seen in person...
mircea_popescu: in spite of there being numerous posters in full view saying "by traipsing around here you agree to blablabla"
mircea_popescu: decimation: what I find inexplicable is that you find folks in the us who absolutely hate everything about usg policies, in terms of how it mismanages wealth, fails to jail criminals, etc, and yet are willing to serve the military side <<< similarly, the wild animals that hate everything about the government will still traipse around on "government property"
kakobrekla: would you like to have your own folder
kakobrekla: i plan to put some stuff there myself, such as log dump etc
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: neat. thx
kakobrekla: asciilifeform try now
asciilifeform: but the fact thereof - not.
asciilifeform: most of the 'why' pissed - censored
asciilifeform: stated that u.s. engineers pissed pants at some of the integrated circuitry found therein
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laugh, but the recently released 'glomar explorer' howard hughes ru. submarine plunder reports...
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: neat. but i was hoping for individual turdlets that i could link to.
mircea_popescu: "the Russians are from three to five years ahead of the US in the field of atomic aircraft engines and they will move even further ahead unless the US pressed forward with its own program"
kakobrekla: asciilifeform try http://files.bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?
ben_vulpes: <MolokoDesk> i may use SQLite instead of mySQL eventuall. << try postgres if ye've yet to. nicely done db.
asciilifeform: (given that i don't have a proper rant written yet to go with it, above will have to do for now)
mircea_popescu: no i know that part
assbot: Logged on 26-09-2014 03:11:57; asciilifeform: there are two versions of the lenat story
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the how & why of the whole thing: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-09-2014#845694 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i was like "let others hit it first ill go later to not herdkil the server"
assbot: Logged on 26-09-2014 00:53:22; mircea_popescu: email ill put on trilema
mircea_popescu: i have that queasy feeling i musta missed something
asciilifeform: before even i forget - kakobrekla, mircea_popescu - where's my lenat turd mirror ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, ru version of ed reads like mostly adult male, as opposed to mostly preteen female.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am notorious for taking more than one pass through the material to grok it, more than one set of lips on the tool to spill it etc.
asciilifeform: ^ that thing of beauty - was discussed here in the past...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 2.94396928 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 256 satoshi per share
deedBot: BTC SPENT: amount_withdrawn = 0.00011000 TRACKING: BUNDLE_PENDING-16kWvtsQukxKp8nKY8hSUgca9nm96cFqUC.txt
mircea_popescu: ou don't read trilema or any other venue where people who know more than you are likely to call you and your friends idiots.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: lol that turd reads like it was a 'mad libs' product << three steps to take to avoid making any sort of meaningful change : a) stick to obama & the libertard's mickey mouse version of "change" ; b) pretend like disaster is unlikely and so the possibility can be safely ignored while it's not happened yet ; pretend it's "overwhelming" as so best ignored as it happens and shortly thereafter ; c) make sure y
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.09651464 BTC to 15`116 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: turns out the universe itself works on a queue
mircea_popescu: "that's where the limit on interaction debit first became apparent"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: as far as anyone can tell - equal to 'c' <<< the idea being that "the speed of light" is not "of light" in any sense other than the champagne is champagne
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell MolokoDesk anyway, the ideal here is to have everything in order to i can put the various sept reports on it.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> what is rms holding in the photo? << toe jam?
mircea_popescu: why am i even reading this crap, jpg "signatures" and no comment section for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: fucktards these people.
mircea_popescu: "If the country can continue operating as smoothly as it does for another year, I'll be surprised." << you can tell casey research his bet is on.
mircea_popescu: now i gotta play this thing
mircea_popescu: ahahaah epic. "every fifth opponent was a cross between a tank with a watchtower and every previous boss"
dignork: mircea_popescu: on a concept level lurkmore is a copy of encyclopedia dramatica, but they do much better job imho ☟︎
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk aite see you tomorrow
MolokoDesk: yeah, there's a pending item stuck in the queue because it missed (probably) it's block.
MolokoDesk: moving this to python was an intention eventually, that make electrum seem more sensible.
mircea_popescu: such a teasing!
dignork: alternatively, just hack out the part talking to electrum servers, few pages of python code
MolokoDesk: ok. I'm out for the day.
MolokoDesk: also I'd be setting up binary buffers and cryptosigning them and all that. it's a chore.
MolokoDesk: it makes it hard to move if it has to co-reside with electrum.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk nah i don't think it's all that desirable. ideally no dependencies etc.
MolokoDesk: I have fallback capability in the bot but it's not active. I can track with two different website APIs. there's only one wallet, but more can be added.
MolokoDesk: the less reliance on 3rd party APIs the better in most cases.
MolokoDesk: electrum is the gold standard for this sort of thing (pun intended) but that's a serious dev/admin/maintenance thing on this end. If I had electrum RPC already at the start of this I may have done it that way. it's still on the desirable things to do list.
mircea_popescu: dignork it also happens to be the correct way to handle this. the "wallet" nonsense still boggles my mind.
MolokoDesk: the risk now is that someone will nab the name.
MolokoDesk: oh, are you going to register deedBot with WoT or should I do that or, leave it indeterminate. I can export the keys and give you a copy.
mircea_popescu: the txid instead of block height ; the queing of gribble requests
MolokoDesk: any mid-course corrections other than so far?
MolokoDesk: well, unless we can break it some more today... I can get on this. I've been up rather a while today.
MolokoDesk: I think starting from last deed bot would load things down some, doable, but deeds may only be coming in every 6 hours.
MolokoDesk: ok. I need to tighten a few things up in deedBot. It's possible that's going to run into October.
MolokoDesk: .time Texas
MolokoDesk: scanning back would allow the tracking interval to be longer than a minute or 5
MolokoDesk: sure. I was considering looking for block height increments of more than 1 and then scanning back. alternatively, scan backwards to the first block with a date before the incoming file creation date.
MolokoDesk: etiolation due to low light. also cactus seedlings have cotyledons like most other dicots.
mircea_popescu: can it sniff the top 6 blocks ?
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk these freakishly fast blocks happen a lot actually.
mircea_popescu: is this how it grows ? is it upset with the light ?
MolokoDesk: I may have to track back to detect block inclusion in that case.
mircea_popescu: so if anyone knows anything about growing cactuses, get back to me. i got a tiny something, which i believe is armatocereus godingianus. he seems happy enough and is growing, but the shoots are all spindly. ie, the base like 6 strands each an inch thick, each shot this inch long, 1/8th of an inch wide things.
MolokoDesk: deedBot is sniffing the top block once 60 seconds. if a freakishly fast block mining event happens back to back it could miss the inclusion in the block.
punkman: I suspected "smooth" as the most common adjective in ratings
MolokoDesk: http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS_TEST/wotFreq_01.html messing about with the WoT RatingsSystem.db earlier, punkman.
MolokoDesk: queue is more robust against various other collision events. I intend to queue incomings.
punkman: if there's a lot of volume, best to keep local copy of OTC database
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk ok. if gribble can grant deedBot unlimited requests thats the solution. << that's not the solution yet. it wil be the solution once we process a lot of volume. atm the soluition is to queue.
MolokoDesk: it hasn't appeared on the main blockchain yet.
MolokoDesk: ok. if gribble can grant deedBot unlimited requests thats the solution.
MolokoDesk: so I already have to pace and sequence the request to gribble.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk can always jus get an exception ; always a great idea to only ask for exceptions when you need them
MolokoDesk: for example, the information about which KEYID or NICK you're asking about disappears if it's not found in WoT. Gribble just says not found there.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla some people like to work, unlike slovens :D
MolokoDesk: yeah, I wasn't going to suggest any mods to gribble even if nanotube would do them because everyone else's stuff would stop working.
mircea_popescu: in general the 60 minutes of a block would currently take a maximum of 720 deeds at that rate. unless we're actually processing 500...
kakobrekla: this has turned into brain surgery
MolokoDesk: an incoming URL queue is the most reasonable.
MolokoDesk: there's no appeal against that. I'll have to pace requests by any of various methods.
mircea_popescu: can you practically limit work to that volume ?
MolokoDesk: gribble bans anyone for 5 minutes if they make more than 12 requests in a 60 second interval. that probably happened while deedBot wasn't voice.
MolokoDesk: I'm retaining the microsecond timestamps of gribble requests and their fulfillment so... I can implement a timeout reset if gribble dies.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: prayer mill ? << shit boys, there you go revealing supersecret eulora later game content ;/
MolokoDesk: I'll look to see what's in the queue
MolokoDesk: the gribble dialog is the gnarliest part.