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mircea_popescu: if it isn'
t your'e fucked, because that's what you'll ever be.
mircea_popescu: and no matter what happens, you can'
t be me. maybe being you is still cool and worth being. maybe it isn'
t.
williamdunne: When you yourself might end up a piss poor person? << being well off isn'
t left to chance
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, we agree. i don'
t visit the us for the exact same reasons.
mircea_popescu: tbh the best part was where she didn'
t wanna take a trip to the us because satan lives there.
mircea_popescu: justJanne just because you think yourself equal to things you don'
t understand doesn'
t make 'em so :D
justJanne: Just because the legal system of The most serene dictatorship was written by amateurs doesn'
t mean it's good.
williamdunne: justJanne: No it doesn'
t, you know I meant debt as if in the liability not the asset
justJanne: You said inheriting debts shouldn'
t be a thing.
justJanne: Thing is, of you have to work and can'
t go to school,
mircea_popescu: doesn'
t mean you can run around sticking bottles up your ass.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the debts of your parents is a novel development, wasn'
t discussed before.
williamdunne: If you're poor.. you can'
t do something, but nothing actually happens
williamdunne: We're not all equal, but I don'
t want to make it worse for you
justJanne: Because I said "people aren'
t responsible for the actions of their ancestors"
mircea_popescu: for instance, i didn'
t say people should be punished for what ancestors did. you conflated two statements : 1) that you can'
t expect me to pay for the poor behaviour of one's ancestors and 2) that i punish people by what they are rather than they wish to be.
justJanne: Some others said taxes are bad, because you personally aren'
t responsible for them.
mircea_popescu: anyway, nothing a summer's worth of lurk moar can'
t fix.
mircea_popescu: the problem isn'
t that we're going "off topic", as there isn'
t a topic. the problem is that you very badly suck at most verbal and cognitive tasks. but hopefully we've run the gamut by now.
justJanne: Anyway, why are we still arguing? I said I have no issue with you trying to build your state system, I just don'
t believe it will last, and you guys spending 14h trying to convince me the system I like most is shit.
justJanne: I think places with low median aren'
t worth living in.
mircea_popescu: in any case the poor girls without the bits can'
t grow them back up, so in order for everyone to have equal chances at an orgasm, off with your clit!
justJanne: You don'
t get it without a degree and a guarantee for a job, and the circumcised people rarely have the qualifications anyway
justJanne: Nah thanks, don'
t wanna go into a country where anyone can be declared terrorist and stripped of their rights
justJanne: (And no, without free college I couldn'
t go to university.)
justJanne: I haven'
t travelled outside EU yet. Never had the money to do so.
justJanne: Then the last person receiving it won'
t be able to use it.
justJanne: They can'
t spend anything, as the last two statements are invalid.
justJanne: I'm currently talking about northern Germany, as I don'
t know the internals of Denmark, it's the same, though.
justJanne: The banks aren'
t either fully centralized, nor fully decentralized. Anyone can just open a bank, the question is if other banks will accept money from your customers as payment, as they don'
t know if they can trust your cryptographic signature.
williamdunne: From the frequency of messages don'
t think she even read the GPG contracts etc, let alone historical logs
justJanne: The thing is, the reason why German debit cards don'
t work in any other place,
mircea_popescu: i don'
t think you understand what centralized-decentralized mean.
justJanne: They aren'
t really centralized either.
BingoBoingo: It prolly won'
t bee too long before they bring back 100,000 bills with the Woodrow Wilson and everything
williamdunne: But it shouldn'
t be compared to centralized systems
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> which iirc don'
t even exist in the us. << 100's still exist here
mircea_popescu: if there isn'
t, a well. you're lucky enough to have come in early.
mircea_popescu: "ima call anyone that doesn'
t promote socialism a dictator and then say that not being socialist makes dictators"
mircea_popescu: and what "the people" do or don'
t do is no basis for either law or sense.
justJanne: Moving from Freenode isn'
t easy either.
williamdunne: Comparing freenode to government is a little ridiculous, don'
t you think?
mircea_popescu: they don'
t want the cock, they shouldn'
t have clicked the short skirt tos.
williamdunne: I don'
t click "I agree to give up 40% of my income"
williamdunne: justJanne: Right, this is the point. We didn'
t choose for Gov to build roads and would pay tolls if owned by private companies
williamdunne: Ok, well state enforced monopoly doesn'
t justify theft, no more than my ejaculate justifies rape
williamdunne: If private companies can'
t build roads, they shouldn'
t exist
justJanne: As you stated before you aren'
t paying for them.
justJanne: So, you don'
t pay taxes or anything?
justJanne: We'll see how it works out. Hint: it won'
t.
williamdunne: If you don'
t move out of Germany I will rape you
justJanne: And more democratic, cause the government won'
t risk ignoring the 7% people who voted liberals, nor the 7% who voted communist, as if they'd ignore them, those parties would just start a fight in Parliament.
williamdunne: justJanne: We can choose between Cameron or Labour, at least Cameron doesn'
t want to remove our main advantage.. being a tax haven
williamdunne: But it likely won'
t matter nearly as much outside of EU
mircea_popescu: well, it can'
t. because the one remaining hanging nail on the historical uk is the coupla nuke subs the us allows them to keep
mircea_popescu: "oh, that's because uk shithole won'
t help itself and won'
t allow foreigners to whatever"
williamdunne: Well, various African shitholes don'
t help themselves and won'
t allow foreigners to open accounts
mircea_popescu: you can'
t sell in randomistan anymore than randomistan can sell in the uk.
williamdunne: Sure, but I don'
t think it's a very controversial idea that various rules such as the AML set put entire regions of people at a disadvantage
mircea_popescu: for bluffers, "you don'
t get to see my cards if you fold"
mircea_popescu: now, if one's afore-decided they will be bluffing, a) they won'
t make very good poker players and b) any hand they get can "put them at a disadvantage".
williamdunne: Don'
t think we all should be equal in fairyland but creating additional barriers is about the equivalent of kicking a man while he is down
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I largely agree, Africa doesn'
t have much going for it but I do think it stands a chance of doing a helluva lot better without various EU/US laws.
mircea_popescu: justJanne don'
t die over b-a hon. it's eternal, will be here when you're 69, too.
mircea_popescu: purely economic. as hitler actually pointed out : we don'
t have enough land to exploit. either we fight or "the way of life" has to change.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne people generally don'
t wish to accept that nazism was absolutely unavoidable, FOR THIS REASON
mircea_popescu: justJanne so far you've not considered the part where it is already collapsing on its own, bnecause it doesn'
t work, because it's strictly based on getting lucky.