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diana_coman: and
there's a quite minimal version
that I used
to install without any
trouble really.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-22 21:16:09 BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I
think Ubuntu even has a flavor
that uses XFCE instead of
the Gnome crap
they replaced
their old
thing only
they used
mircea_popescu: as in, "do you have your reservations ?" "o boy howdy do i! i have reservations about everything!!!" "right
this way please, you'll fit right in!"
mircea_popescu: i guess
this is a point, not so much walled gardens as padded reservations.
BingoBoingo: Also
the padded walled gardens
that don't want juicy bimbos
hanbot: honing in on
the bulk of demands being "plays candy crush, orders
takeout, rounds corners"
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Right. And
this
triad is a substantial narrowing from back in
the day when Macromedia/Adobe Flash/shockwave were... different
things. Microsoft shat out a .Net/Silverlight/etc every other year, etc
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-21 06:43:55 mircea_popescu: it seems
to me
that "special purpose os" is a contorted circumlocution for "an app". it futher seems
to me
that
the proposition "hey, you know how
to do
the
thing we don't know how
to do ? let's do what we know how
to do instead and call it good!" is fundamentally weak, ethically (ie,
that it's not driven by anything but convenience) ; and
that
the "make your os for a purpose"
thing is undistinguishable from it
BingoBoingo: I far as I can
tell
the space narrowed
to 1. Folks developing for fondleslabs 2. Folks developing for Chrome/Chromium/Webkit 3. Folks developing from
the increasingly fractured 3Dgame/steam space and settling for whatever nintendos call
themselves
today
hanbot: well it's certainly grown in
terms of needlessly complex stupidity and cosmetic optionality devoid of substantial difference. it can't grow if nobody remembers what it's for and why it goes a certain way, except for a scant few with entirely other sets of problems.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: From what I've seen
the outside world seems
to have shrank considerably while
trying very hard
to appear
to have grown.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-06-01 08:46:10 mircea_popescu: i wanted
to
try
the outside world
BingoBoingo: That's kinda what I figured. Now
that Adobe Flash is dead and buried, is
there anywhere on
the
toilet-web/appverse
that doesn't at least appear
to work on Chromium?
hanbot: for which
the above is a useful lesson.
hanbot: anyway nicoleci is on a semi-public
toilet sorta scheme, iirc, as she works
towards understanding why she'd rather not be
hanbot uses death rattles and mournful sighs, for
the most part.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I recommend asking hanbot what she uses
to her her boxes.
BingoBoingo: With
that you'd still have Ubuntu under
the hood, but hopefully less of
the stuff
that gets in
the way because "Gotta win
the desktop for Linux by rebuilding Windows, but more broken"
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I
think Ubuntu even has a flavor
that uses XFCE instead of
the Gnome crap
they replaced
their old
thing only
they used
BingoBoingo: Every linux/bsd/etc I've run it on
top of works with a minimum of fiddling.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I've long ago settled on XFCE as my balance between "sometime point and click offload pressure on my brainbox" versus "I don't want
to subject myself
to engineers constantly breaking everything"
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, yes it does! i can't wait
to see how progression develops/end result
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: Or for picking
the flavor with Gnome as
the desktop.
The gnome folks drive much of
the "linux gets worse every year" mess
that makes a
tmsr os rather high on
the list of necessities.
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, yeah and i suppose
this is actually
the cost for updating ubuntu.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: You probably can't afford
the
time
to go full on ascetic putting
together a "cleanest" possible linux, but
the first couple
things
that popped up when I looked for "What causes
this awful error" were all gnome related.
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, ugh..
thanks for letting me know will look into
the intrusiveness
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: You've got desktop weird intruding on your workflow.
There's a helper program
that was
trying
to be "smart" for you.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci:
try again, but
this
time put on
the command line: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=0 ssh you@serveryouaretryingtoreach