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assbot: Feds: Butterfly Labs mined bitcoins on customers boxes before shipping | Ars
Technica
ThickAsThieves: "The machines being
tested were collectively hashing at a rate of 12
terrahashes per second (TH/s). At
that
time,
this comprised approximately 3 percent of
the hash rate of
the entire bitcoin network."
ThickAsThieves: "Specifically,
the
testimony of several former employees and Vice President of Product Development Josh Zerlan shows
that instead of fulfilling orders immediately, Defendants used
their customers’ machines
to mine Bitcoins for
themselves before shipping
the now-used machines
to
their customers."
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assbot: Logged on 29-09-2014 03:06:03; decimation: before
this one I actually had a nexus 4 (2013 model) for a month, dropped it from 18 inches and it cracked
mats_cd03: 03:06:03 decimation:before
this one I actually had a nexus 4 (2013 model) for a month, dropped it from 18 inches and it cracked <<there's a 2013 model? whats
the difference with 2012?
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes nah, i just fucked around with
the db while moving ass.
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RagnarDanneskjol: assuming it is compromised (not
thinking about btc here at all)
mircea_popescu: but anyway,
this discussion can continue
tomorrow, i'm off.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol well how are you going
to put
the hash in a block retroactively ?
RagnarDanneskjol: sapr ad but more easily recoverable]. we'll presume
the date record of keys published is unreliable/unavail/innacurate [including classifieds which could fall into all 3 categories] and placing aside
the single use pair being vulnerable
to forger obtaining historical key pairs in advance.
RagnarDanneskjol: are
there any
time-bending' methods for proving a doc [notarized electronically*] is not added[forged]
to db AFTER some point in
time? like a 'carbondated' irrefutable binary marker [or
tensor more like]. for instance, unique single use keypair for each new calendar day
thats signed by [or a hash of] some other newly generated 'time-dependent' keypair + 'something else'[ie classified new
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thestringpuller: but
this means software
that is signed everywhere has more accountability
than software
that doesn't
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what if someone doesn't sign "heartbleed introduction"
then no one is accountable and system is moot
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no. girls aren't required
to fuck anyone and yet
they're well
terrified of not doing a good job in bed.
mircea_popescu: there's no permission
to be had or sought.
this is free software.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> what is anathema in
the previous context mircea_popescu is
taking someone else's commits, signing
them and claiming
them as your own. << why ?
ben_vulpes: if i see
this day i will be a happy man.
ben_vulpes: in 20 years, a bitcoin implementation may be software people's "masterpiece" work - eg
the piece of work
that grants one
the
title of "master" in
the field.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you could only make people
terrified in
this system if everyone was required
to sign commits no?
ben_vulpes: if i find commits like
that without a "copied without permission from XXX" --
that's a demerit.
ben_vulpes: what is anathema in
the previous context mircea_popescu is
taking someone else's commits, signing
them and claiming
them as your own.
assbot: Logged on 13-08-2014 20:08:25; asciilifeform: one calls out recipe steps; one actually
tightens
the bolt, whatever; one - verifies.
then
they all sign.
ben_vulpes: and you probably want
to hash
the lines and sign
the hash
to boot.
ben_vulpes: i'm demonstrating
the range of what's possible, not what i'd do.
ben_vulpes: or, "this signed
tag is my stamp on lines xx-yy in file
thus.hs"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
that's nonsense. what's
this, a badly specified bitbet bet ?
mircea_popescu: that'
the only way
they'll stop long enough
to read something.
ben_vulpes: now in
the
tag, you include a message: "this signed
tag is my stamp upon
the whole and entirety of
the codebase".
mircea_popescu: the entire point of
the exercise is
to make people fucking affraid
to write code.
mircea_popescu: sure, if
that's what he means
that's what he should do.
ben_vulpes: now if you strip whitespace on a line
that later
turns out
to have a mission-critical hole...
ben_vulpes: "i changed
these
things, and i
take responsibility for
the content of
the change."
ben_vulpes: that's why
the commit is
the right
thing for a contributor
to sign.
ben_vulpes: that's
the importance of signing
the diff.
ben_vulpes: what would it mean for it
to be in something
that someone signed?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes basically
the practica application would be, once X bug is found, grep for
the code and whenever you find it in something someone signed,
tear
them a new one.
ben_vulpes: sure, i made a change
to openssl, and i stand behind it.
that should not be
taken
to be an endorsement of
the project.
mircea_popescu: if
that's what you're
trying
to do, it's not anathema, it's
the right
thing. if it's not what you're
trying
to do it's still not anathema, just, you're misguidedly using
the
tools
ben_vulpes: that's why
the signatory of
the commit can only be held responsible for changes introduced in
that commit.
mircea_popescu: as far as i can see, all signatories of a
thing are joint and several responsible for it.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but see, if what you mean
to say is "signing actual commits may be
taking on more responsibility
than you realise", why say "anathema" ?
ben_vulpes: also i don't really know
that git affords for you signing my hash and including it in
the repository, from a
technical perspective.
ben_vulpes: and multiple people providing input into what precisely should be done. however,
the buck must stop with
the signer of
the commit.
ben_vulpes: the commit is "here is a diff of
thing before i started work
today, and
thing after i finished
this feature." it may include
tests, changes
to other miscellaneous stuff. it should exist (in my opinion, i may be wrong and might need
to be argued out of
this) as a statement
that "i did
this work".
this clearly gets hazy when you've got multiple eyes on a screen.
mircea_popescu: can you stick
to arguing your idea instead of arguing around ?
ben_vulpes: why not encrypt messages
to bitcoin private keys? it works, what's
the problem?
mircea_popescu: so
then if i sign a commit you made, what's
the problem ?
ben_vulpes: tux might nota been a party
to
the crime, but it happened under his watch.
ben_vulpes: a
tag is "this release bears my stamp"
ben_vulpes: RagnarDanneskjol: you're familiar with
tagging in git?
ben_vulpes: for
the record, signing not your own commits is anathema and will eventually be outed.
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mircea_popescu: guy had a month, ended up cramming most of it after
the 20th or something ?
gribble: molokodesk was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 13 hours, 43 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <MolokoDesk> yeah,
there's a pending item stuck in
the queue because it missed (probably) it's block.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, it occurs
to me,
the ba deeds registrar
thing will be a not-so-bad way
to distribute source.
mircea_popescu: let's
talk of something else,
this can't not end up retarded.
nanotube: also, were
there usd input/outputs? or just btc?
mircea_popescu: which one of
the leaked versions of which particular breach ?
nanotube: i distinctly recall it didn't have some of my earliest
transactions :P
mircea_popescu: yeah because co-conspirator
testimony is like
the be all end all of
truthsources.
nanotube: mircea_popescu: sure, except it wasn't
the entire
thing? it was a particular date range, plus as i recall not all
transactions?
Luke-Jr: that stuff,
the police have access
to
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: it's pretty obvious MagicalTux isn't allowed
to publicly say a lot of stuff
Dimsler: mircea_popescu, maybe
they have access
to
the "secret" server
mircea_popescu: nanotube you mean
that
thing
that was stolen off
their servers 5x ?