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kakobrekla got his chips before he managed to get em running
thickasthieves: they also have the best logo
asciilifeform: but is there even one asic vendor that didn't mine with customer-paid chips before shipping ?
thickasthieves: though they never took customer money w/o shipping
thickasthieves: asicminer did technically IPO before they had a thing
thickasthieves: ah maybe them
asciilifeform: out of curiosity, q for the aficionados: is there any mining hw vendor that is innocent of the scam 'bfl' is known to have carried out ?
asciilifeform: (americans simply replaced one or two shells' powder with tetryl, resealed container, and left it for enemy to find as a trophy)
thickasthieves: bfl made these http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/M4J11vT.jpg
asciilifeform: the 'eldest son' trick would work on almost any small arm
assbot: dpaste: 1ACV2MC: You Have a New Comment, by tat
thickasthieves: i think mp or someone already shared something like this, but http://dpaste.com/1ACV2MC
asciilifeform: ^ where the ubiquitous image of 'kalash that fires backwards' came from
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asciilifeform: not in the face << obligatory:
mircea_popescu: Dimsler not an expert, but prolly the 70s.
kakobrekla: asciilifeform also 'not in the face' ?
Dimsler: what year did romanian aks go to mild receivers?
asciilifeform: goes 'bang' when pull trigger, that's generally all people ask for around here
Dimsler: probably the best one vs an original russian one
nubbins`: thickasthieves: you obviously grew up in the age of varying-case fonts
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how they ended up in america - who knows!
mircea_popescu: moved to the m16-inspired vietnam 5.56, in 1980, but decided to make own gun
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: believe or not, they used to sell them - here! a few hundred usd.
mircea_popescu: "România, membră a Tratatului de la Varșovia, a decis trecerea la noul calibru la începutul anilor 1980. În loc să fabrice direct o copie a automatului AK-74, conducerea de la București a decis dezvoltarea unei arme independent de cea sovietică. Rezultatul, Pușca Automată Model 1986, deși similară familiei AK-74, avea unele elemente constructive proprii. "
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: oh now i see. i was once blind. thanks for giving me eyes.
xanthyos: back when people used to troll with paper
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: try to understand the idea. your particular unit, which you unpack, (optionally) study under microscope, replace various parts (optionally) with old stock, etc. - you can vouch for the properties of.
thickasthieves: back when typing in all caps was okay?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/PA_Md._1986 < that thing
xanthyos: it made sense on mechanical typewriters
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: mechanical angel << well cardano is resistant to DPA, isn't this an angelic property?
xanthyos: capslock on the internet is the death throe of the loud poor man
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mircea_popescu: (not really machine guns as in, three person platform fired band fed. shitty mps)
asciilifeform: what were they? kalash clones ?
mircea_popescu: everyone got some. derps couldn't even fire them, stuffed pants
mircea_popescu: coupla guys showed up at state tel;evsion building, dumped a sack of machine guns on floor
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually this is how it was done during romanian revolution
asciilifeform: let's rephrase. why, in just about any army in the world, soldier must carry and care for his own rifle?
Dimsler: thestringpuller, quit trolling
thickasthieves: you cannot remove trust from human dealing
asciilifeform: that will broker transactions for him, be instantly recognizable as angelic on sight by a counterparty, etc.
asciilifeform: i believe thestringpuller is asking for a known impossibility - a mechanical angel.
Dimsler: that has to occur
Dimsler: honestly there still a certain level of trust
thickasthieves: to learn how to audit
asciilifeform: this is the #1 most asked question
mircea_popescu: so the guy is supposed to study the design, to find out if it comes fro mevil lab ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get the logic in your last two
asciilifeform: if you have concerns about supply chain - there is no choice, assuming you wish to use device, other than to examine your particular unit.
thestringpuller: no concerns just trying to see if use case i possible
nubbins`: then buy the t-shirt
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if you have concerns about solidity of design - you will have to study the published specs (upcoming) before considering purchasing device.
thestringpuller: how do people know the cardano came from you asciilifeform and mircea_popescu 's "good lab" in the first place?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: or that you have not replaced firmware with your own, that spits out a predestined set of keys cyclically ever time zap is thrown ?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: how does your counterparty know that your cardano behaves as printed on the tin, and is not a substitute of identical appearance which you built in evil lab ?
thestringpuller: to delete them
Dimsler: seriously anytype of scenario where a private key has to be trusted leaves room for malice
thestringpuller: however the person generating the keys flips the switch
thestringpuller: the counterparty is in the room and takes the cardano as part of the deal
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: how do you (operator of device) intend to prove to your counterparty that you destroyed key ?
thestringpuller: i apologize for the disarray of thoughts. a dpaste more flushed out maybe more beneficial in terms of relating the scenario
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thestringpuller: asciilifeform: could the cardano be used as a blackbox key generator? for instance someone once escrow keys that are one time use, the device can sign a message utilizing these generated keys, but they are inevitably destroyed, and no one has true record of the private keys used to sign said message
mircea_popescu: Dimsler what a stupid q lol. how would they enforce a limit ?
Dimsler: whats the limit to load in?
kakobrekla: see nubbins` try out his 584 cards going broke
nubbins`: oh lel, my visa-enabled debit card works, too
asciilifeform: i will be, for at least another ten minutes, then i go & take break from computer, cut a little aluminum
kakobrekla: is in scope if you hook it up to one
Dimsler: who the fuck is stringpuller
thestringpuller: I was just wondering if you were in the mood to take questions :P
thestringpuller: We are talking publicly?
asciilifeform: i can't think of any reason not to ask publiclyh
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: it relates to "intended use". I want to know if a certain scenario is in scope.
Dimsler: sitting there feeding cvvs
Dimsler: once the nigerians hear about it taking cc
nubbins`: what amazes me is that they managed to insure this whole process somehow
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> kakobrekla as painless as taking a shit << ouch :D
Dimsler: whats the approval process?
Dimsler: circle will take CC and convert to btc?
nubbins`: gonna wait a few days to verify cc fees and do the same in reverse
nubbins`: transferred $50 from my credit card, immediately withdrew to cold storage address
nubbins`: kakobrekla as painless as taking a shit
kakobrekla: nubbins` did you encounter any amount of jerk with that?
kakobrekla: thestringpuller yes, the pcb is blue.
nubbins`: o wow, just signed up for a circle account and used it for the first time
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if your question relates to design or manufacture, it is possible that i can help you
mircea_popescu: xanthyos got a problem down there ?
xanthyos: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByuR-E1CcAICyNh.jpg << THIS GUY IS UNSKILLED AT SITTING ON AN AIR MATTRESS
kakobrekla: is topace gone from irc for good?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu i have a quick question about the cardano
xanthyos: IT IS OFFICIAL. THE SOCIALIST DANIEL VITA OF LANGLEY, BRITISH COLUMBIA, HAS ELECTED TO STARVE TO DEATH.
mircea_popescu: "Die Antwoord (pronounced [di'ɑnt.ʋoːrt], translation: "The Answer") is a South African rap-rave group formed in Cape Town in 2008."
fluffypony: but in doing so they mostly come across as "meh" instead of shocking
fluffypony: one would think so
fluffypony: they just take tidbits and snippets of red-neck society and then blow it completely out of proportion to try and make it "shocking"
fluffypony: nubbins`: well the thing is, they're not even satirical or funny
Blazedout419: Looks really nice...now to have it framed.