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nubbins`: at first glance, this function seems to be a bit wanky
nubbins`: yeah, that's the only piece i'm missing
mircea_popescu: might need some more work there.
mircea_popescu: punkman tho says this doesn't work and molokodesk hasn't been back to clarify.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` well this point was still being worked upon. the spec calls for the hash to be used as the privkey for the destination of the tx.
nubbins`: or, put another way, how do i know transaction X represents arbitrary deed Y?
nubbins`: by what method is the deed hashed to obtain the privkey / address?
mircea_popescu: "During this marriage he had an extended affair with his wife's younger sister Lady Alexandra Metcalfe, and with their stepmother, Grace Curzon, Marchioness Curzon of Kedleston, the U.S.-born second wife and widow of Lord Curzon of Kedleston."
pete_dushenski: DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << ya, torrents, blogs, non-soviet restaurants
Dimsler: itty bitty titty committee need not apply
danielpbarron slaps Dimsler around a bit with a decentralized trout
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mircea_popescu: i hope you appreciate the meta-win involved.
mircea_popescu: DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << have them ask here.
mircea_popescu: jurov: then next transaction won't require pin << lmao such security.
mircea_popescu: jurov: sry if that was already discussed << it was, yea.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol: someones will fund the seed address in advance << im putting a cent in there.
punkman: anyone use this thing http://grsecurity.net/ ?
Dimsler: i thought it was pb and j time?
thickasthieves: troll time is over
gribble: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics | Semantics (from Ancient Greek: σημαντικός sēmantikós, "significant") is the study of meaning. It focuses on the relation between signifiers, like words, phrases, ...
gribble: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy | In thermodynamics, entropy (usual symbol S) is a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly ...
thickasthieves: what does this mean? no that's semantics!
thickasthieves: lol this guy
Dimsler: again back to semantics
thickasthieves: chaos can cause order too
thickasthieves: whether something is chaos or not is not tied to its effects
thickasthieves: you are talking about effects
Dimsler: sure, but using penecillin to interject as a form of medicine is also a disruption
Dimsler: man post me the line where i say in any negative connotation that chaos is bad
thickasthieves: youre out there man
Dimsler: which is the undeniable foundation of life
Dimsler: how do you articulate that
thickasthieves: to create is to make order
thickasthieves: and other than to use the abstract concept of man's iatrogenic effect as a juxtaposition, that's just false
thickasthieves: youre the one that said manmade is chaos
thickasthieves: i am trying
thickasthieves: if youre trying to be cute, sure
thickasthieves: oh wait it was doctorbtc that asked
DoctorBTC: I'm trying to get better at expressing some of these ideas and was hoping I could find some resource that could help me along.
DoctorBTC: punkman: i was thinking about historically... perhaps things in nature, civilization, businesses.
Dimsler: then you can just cite %90 of all economies trading in gold shekels before the 1800s
Dimsler: would be the best example
jurov: i actually think sweet spot is somewhere in the middle between decentralization and centralization
jaycutler6969: DoctorBTC not sure this works for you, megaupload was some % point(s) of the total internet traffic at its peak
punkman: DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... <- what kind of systems
DoctorBTC: jaycutler6969: you mean the coinbase guy? no
DoctorBTC: (and you guys in b-a are like the smartest people in the universe...)
DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone...
asciilifeform: 'For the love of God, Montrezor!'
jurov: then next transaction won't require pin
jurov: 2. if you create tx, enter a PIN then cancel the transaction
jurov: wanted to check if my trezor still works, so sent half a bitcent to deedbot
jurov: add that info to balance?
RagnarDanneskjol: oh -i miscounted a decimal spot - guess ther's enough for 20 deeds left
thickasthieves: seems like they just want you to order printed versions
thickasthieves: what's the deal with usg only making current-year tax form PDFs available as "drafts"
RagnarDanneskjol: i do not control the wallet
RagnarDanneskjol: jurov, do you mind throwing a few bitcents in there.. it only has enough for a couple of deeds left
RagnarDanneskjol: as for immediate publishing - I am all in favor of immediacy. believe the idea was bundling multiple deeds over an hour into a single tx was more efficient, etc
RagnarDanneskjol: the cost of deed is a fe cents, so believe the idea was to have someone throw a bitcoin in there and have enough to cover all deeds for a year
jurov: sry if that was already discussed
jurov: will fund itself then
xanthyos: about to get my first medical checkup since 1999. wonder what they'll find
RagnarDanneskjol: someones will fund the seed address in advance
jurov: that's all? there is no micropayment needed or such?
RagnarDanneskjol: now wait until the top of the hour, will report bundled deed once its done
jurov: RagnarDanneskjol okay, is there something usable in logs?
RagnarDanneskjol: I'm already working with a coupla guys to get it done in pyth
jurov: lol i have to reverse engineeer it?
RagnarDanneskjol: he redid much of it since the last commits
jurov: i see... clicked and wtf is this? :D
mircea_popescu: and yes, that's where the fmpiff stuff should go.
mircea_popescu: jurov not documented yet, but would be a good thing to do.
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jurov: i'd like to put f.mpif stuff there
jurov: Is the deedbot documented on wiki or somewhere?
pete_dushenski: a ty
jurov: pete_dushenski they were topic of discourse in 20th, too
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history. << 19th century?
assbot: Shitexpress · Send a shit in a package around the world
mircea_popescu: who gives a shit, cunts want to be seen.
dignork: could be avoided if we form pair keys, each one with court key, 2 out of 2 to redeem, but this also has different properties
dignork: i mean side-attack: using the recording to blackmail others - payments for non-disclosure
mircea_popescu: texas used to have "enstrangement of affection" but it's gone.
mircea_popescu: how is a pair going to be able to blackmailk anyone ? there's no such thing as "group rape" as in, you've raped a group of two people.
dignork: mircea_popescu> dignork nah, you make n of k sets signed in pairs <<< not good enough, each pair will be able to blackmail others, non-existent problem in one-to one case.
kakobrekla: deedBot needs to be registered with nickserv
assbot: EU Says Apple Inc.'s Irish Tax Deal is Illegal
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu well you're sorta the king rabbi ;)
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no i mean, to trilema. search traffic.
pete_dushenski: … that you're using google, that is
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, google now sends me traffic for searches like "cum sa faci bani ca un evreu", ie, how to make $$$ like a joo.
pete_dushenski: khans spread ideas, tech between the two
mircea_popescu: the chinese are about as european as teh jooz.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol they're not?? i thought that's why the chinese were good at shit.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves> i'm just not dreaming hard enough << maybe you're not dreaming out the right hole ?
thickasthieves: what a guy cant own gun-shaped things without getting shot?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski just like the chinese are european
asciilifeform: even without enemy. phone rings, draw, put to head - but drew from wrong holster.