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danielpbarron: lest the noobs in the audience go home and actually use their key in such an insecure manner
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BingoBoingo: jborkl: Well, for someone the next few years are going to be rougher than the price as of late
danielpbarron: well, the presentation is incomplete without such a demonstration
dignork: possible ofcourse, two machines, cumbersome presentation
danielpbarron: so? is it not possible to do without cardano?
jborkl: Rough weekend for the price
dignork: well, you need two computers for that, or hardware crypto gadget (cardano is not there yet)
danielpbarron: wouldn't have taken longer than the unnecessary detour into explaining some localbitcoin thing, which served only to confuse the audience as to how the WoT functions
danielpbarron: it shouldn't be that difficult to demonstrate an offline setup, which is the experience new users should become accustomed with -- especially the kind of people who already think they are hip to crypto
BingoBoingo: MSG Shakers at Restaurant tables, 'Murica https://twitter.com/Missionstfood/status/518132336181780480/photo/1
danielpbarron: the fact that he'd decrypt a message with his key on an online, os x, machine is already bad -- then he goes on to show others this insecure method to initiates
dignork: danielpbarron: if this is his key, it's public anyway ^
TheNewDeal: Did Al Gore invent the internet?
justusranvier: The two streams because it means the videos are automagically seperate
danielpbarron: ;;later tell bitstein you demonstrated gpg on an online machine at a meetup?? with your actual key???
dignork: no, pretty vanilla, Satoshi refered to previous works, hashcash for example, might call it real bitcoin inventor for example :)
TheNewDeal: is that a joke?
bitstein: TIL how to actually pronounce Mircea.
TheNewDeal: why isn't this just one stream?
TheNewDeal: justusranvier who is this
Duffer_: who's the guy talking atm?
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i think it's ok for the time being tbh
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Yeah I was looking for a color that made the hyperlink blue header look good. Solving the Header problem may be more productive than the experiment of cycling all of the background colors
cazalla: well, that guy from ccn responded
mircea_popescu: dude they've got it i swear. that's exactly what the problem is with libertards. their preferred ideology is a species of madness.
mircea_popescu: "central to the right-wing appeal for generations: that liberalism is a species of madness"
cazalla: mircea_popescu, no forum posts to report and prob won't be going forward seeing this qntra thing has legs
decimation: usd is the original altcoin, afterall
Shakespeare: i bet coinbase & circle will be this way
decimation: whether a 'wire' counts as cash is up to usg of course
decimation: http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/aml_history.html Bank Secrecy Act (1970) Required banks to (1) report cash transactions over $10,000 using the Currency Transaction Report; (2) properly identify persons conducting transactions; and (3) maintain a paper trail by keeping appropriate records of financial transactions
mircea_popescu: other than that, you can put up whatever walls you wish.
TheNewDeal: the question is interesting though. What would the rules be on creating a wall that wasnt executed
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare the rule is you can't put up orders you don't intend to go through.
decimation: but I guarantee a notice went to the bank's regulator
decimation: it's true you can move it quickly with a wire
Shakespeare: i moved $30k a few weeks ago, they just made me respond to a message
decimation: try moving $50k from your brokerage to your checking account in less than a few days
bounce: without inviting them to sue you on the spot, you mean. you don't get permission, you incriminate yourself and they may or may not persecute you for it.
TheNewDeal: just try to get your hands on it
Shakespeare: i'm just wondering if they have rules about manipulative orders
decimation: sure, inside the account
decimation: you can't even move more than $10k in the us without usg permission
assbot: DARPA delving into the black art of super secure software obfuscation | Network World
bounce: apparently darpa doesn't want just model checking, rather executable encryption that is not encryption: http://www.networkworld.com/article/2691617/ https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&id=a303af332a90b1e84fdb91d7dd382396
Shakespeare: so, would a huge ask order like this be allowed in US markets, or do they have rules about it?
decimation: heh yeah, the biggest weakness of the presidency is an inability to admit that it sucks
mircea_popescu: because yea, totally, not being able to tell the nation to go fuck itself and mind its own business on live tv is everyone else's fault but the president's.
mircea_popescu: much like the more aged libtards today are rewriting the story of clinton's lauhgable gullibiility/idiocy in terms of "hysteria"
mircea_popescu: decimation there's an entire conspiracy theory built on the premise that it was really because of the rf thing that the "left" "set him up"
Shakespeare: no complaints about the SR bet resolution it seems
justusranvier: tomorrow is the daniel krawisz reviewing Nick Szebo's "Shelling Out" as a money origin theory
decimation: nixcon is a hilarious typo
assbot: Following the Trail Nixon Blazed | National Review Online
decimation: apparently nixcon actually considered denying the "RF broadcast licenses" of political enemies: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/373218/following-trail-nixon-blazed-victor-davis-hanson -- last time I heard someone slightly right-wing come up with a winning strategy
justusranvier: Tonight is bitstien giving a #bitcoin-otc and GPG contracts tutorial, followed by yamamushi demoing his "filesharing over bitmessage" app
justusranvier: by "produce" I mean I set up the Hangout on Air
justusranvier: We've started to publish talks from our Bitcoin meetups to YouTube
mircea_popescu: justusranvier doesn't have to be tonight. wait, you produce video too ?!
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the entire "thief screaming thief" and "consumate liar discussing other's dna-sutured bla bla" is rather amusing
decimation: yeah basically it's 'oh noes they might manipulate the masses like we do!'
justusranvier: I'll see what I can do. Won't be tonight because I've got to go producea couple videos
mircea_popescu: decimation that is not accountable!!!1
TheNewDeal: draper put down 1 on yes, trying to recoup with wall
decimation: I find it hilarious that the lefties in the us keep raising the fear that 'evil republicans will raise money to buy elections' while failing to notice that the lefties receive 'in-kind' contributions from us media worth $bns
mircea_popescu: justusranvier that was the idea, give it a little editorial anchor
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $260 before November :: 1.04 B (50%) on Yes, 1.06 B (50%) on No | closing in 1 week 1 day| weight: 97`477 (100`000 to 1)
TheNewDeal: drapers trying his damndest to get his coin back http://bitbet.us/bet/1054/bitcoin-to-drop-under-260-before-november/#b3
decimation: maybe they can sign up Mr. Ramey as a guest author
justusranvier: I have a long backlog of articles I want to write
assbot: The Long Con - The Baffler
mircea_popescu: http://www.thebaffler.com/salvos/the-long-con << dude the libtard periphery press is awesome
mircea_popescu: "It would be interesting, that is, to ask Coulter about the reflex of lying that’s now sutured into the modern conservative movement’s DNA—and to get her candid assessment of why conservative leaders treat their constituents like suckers."
assbot: Qntra.net - The #1 Bitcoin Site For News, Views & Commentary
decimation: obviously the dude is unfamiliar with engineering stuff. it's quite customary to ask for development costs up front, on the assumption that several will be bought
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yeah, i guess the bitbet bets are probably the cheapest/most open avenue at the moment.
decimation: seems like euros are good enough for anyone wanting to trade fiat
mircea_popescu: i dunno if the requirements to take delivery were too cumbersome or wtf exactly.
mircea_popescu: decimation oddly the fully delivered euro future never got very much volumne, historically.
los_pantalones: how much is mpex these days ?
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones so charge the man an entry fee.
Shakespeare: well in mpex i didnt have to sat
mircea_popescu: you're spending too much time with redditards.
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare dude you're something else. "o someone should build a car with wings" "Would you buy one if built ?" "i shouldn't have to say"
los_pantalones: but otherwise i can offer you those facilities
kakobrekla: i have in the past dumped coins to sturles and left fiat waiting with him for some months before i decided to repurchase/get fiat
los_pantalones: it's not worth my time if it would be <100 / week
Shakespeare: i shouldnt have to say
Shakespeare: well that's private los_pantalones
los_pantalones: hence my inquiry into how much you would trade?
kakobrekla: you can trade otc with optional delivery
Shakespeare: so i wouldnt have to play where i play
Shakespeare: the premise here was wishing mpex had a way to trade against USD
Shakespeare: i'm not talking about bfx
mircea_popescu: bitfinex is not trading anything.
mircea_popescu: im not in the business of making sites which "maybe" will make random joe blow rich.
Shakespeare: what are you on about? how is trading BTC against USD about social relevance and derpage?
mircea_popescu: that the derps in question will take something that "maybe" will deliver them the impossible, rather than something that makes it plain it ain't happening is entirely their problem.
mircea_popescu: that a bunch of sites promise to do this has everything to do with the promising and nothing to do with the delivering.