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asciilifeform: it still boggles my mind : would you hire, e.g., a talking grizzly bear, to 'tend garden' ? ☟︎
phf: they heard that sometime long time ago cool people were doing tmsr (like maybe black panthers in the 60s), but back then was doing, now it's long long fashion. and it's obviously fashion because none of these posers have it in them to make a clean cut with a sword so to speak. an act that comes from conviction or desperation that is an act in itself. with no "purpose" to it ☟︎
phf: because adding any other qualifiers to fashion makes it somehow special. nothing special is happening here, it's a bunch of bored people trying out different clothes, signaling, etc.
phf: i think these fashions are a balance between youthful rebelling and popular things that are normalized as time passes. but the present "race" narrative has nothing to do with anything, it's simply a fashion conversation.
BingoBoingo: uch above that. But dating issues, rejection, attraction are a part of the Hapa problems we describe. "
BingoBoingo: ABOVE THAT: "Dating is part of the WMAF Hapa problem. Our #2 mod is called incelman. Hapa issues started gaining traction after Elliot Rodger blamed being half asian for being incel. The perceived unattractiveness of Asian males is a primary factor behind the huge WMAF imbalance. And a major point of r/Hapas is that the very sons of WMAF are hit by that anti-AM bias. So look we're not a bunch of angry incels just hating on women. We're m ☟︎
phf: michael jackson rode on a tail wave of that, and really i would say that "everyone" wants to be michael jackson, but michael jackson wanted to be david bowie (not cause bowie is somehow good or superior, but because bowie was happening as jackson was rising) ☟︎
erlehmann: a mix
erlehmann: i once had a one night stand with a porn director. during sex, i figured out that her fluids smell exactly like mine. we were a bit weirded out by that, then went back to pound town. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for a long time.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this marks you as a minority.
BingoBoingo: erlehmann: I am having a lol.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann ever fucked women of a different race ?
erlehmann: i don't get racist propaganda. if there is really nothing better holding people together than race, that seems like a very low common denominator.
BingoBoingo: WTF, whole fucking continent has a victim complex https://np.reddit.com/r/bakchodi/comments/6ida58/when_an_indian_enters_a_super_fun_and_friendly/
phf: i'm going to rewatch it. this logs idea that british empire (or what was remaining of it) was destroyed in wwii made me reevaluate a lot of the 20th century events, and it's neat to look at these things through new frame
erlehmann: so the first response to epigraph was like “why not explain a more interesting topic like ebola transmission?”
mircea_popescu: "if i can't get one to be mine in private, maybe we could get them to be ours as a group ???"
phf: i've seen it long time ago, but the only part i remember about it is the heavy handed agitprop. but that's the tail end of british empire, so there is probably something to "dependable serious folk". i think it was in a handful of war novels too (slaughterhouse five maybe?) the whole "british officer" thing
BingoBoingo: Apparently the elliots think Whitey can't get a date?
mircea_popescu: somewhat similar to how hela is just one of many sorta-woman sorta-hpv combinations out there, a set much more diverse than either woman or hpv.
mircea_popescu: creoles (which is the name for two-ethnic mixtures, unless you prefer mongrels) are significantly more variant as a group than either antecessor group.
mircea_popescu: trinque because a random "gene mixture" does not an ethnicity make.
mircea_popescu: absolutely HYSTERICAL not-dead-yet-honest britsh empire piece of agitprop. it is built on the mindbogglingly entertaining twin premises that a) british is not merely relevant, but world-central and b) really, they're this sort of age cave tace laborious dependable serious folk, like ghandi personally spawned the lot of them out of fat drunk saxon uglies.
asciilifeform: or missing a leg, arm..
asciilifeform: trinque: it isn't clear that there was anything physically wrong with elliot ( aside from being, by his account, a very short and thin d00d )
trinque: there are ethnically bound diseases right? why not diseases arising out of a particular mixture of genes from two sides of the planet
trinque: not to get all "mixing of the races", but in a less squeamish culture it'd be interesting if somebody actually studied it. maybe poor elliots have a biological basis.
phf: well, "folk", i'm reminded how every indian, when they say ghandi, they have to add "the father of our nation" immediately after, but in the privacy of their own homes (lubricated by a bit of alcohol) they start saying that godse should've done it sooner
asciilifeform: ^ apparently still a folk favourite in jp
asciilifeform: phf: what a misfortunate d00d, he was, couldn't get a proper kaishakunin, it took, what , 5 whacks to drop his head
phf: the last asian men all committed seppuku when japan lost in world war ii. yukio mishima, a homosexual writer of some repute was so distressed by there not being any men anymore, he tried to organize a coup to restate imperial power and bushido, with predictable results
BingoBoingo: more comedy gold needs mining to make a decision
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Children of White Dads and Asian Moms, like Elliot. There's a gold mine of self loathing out there
BingoBoingo: "Back then I looked at me being born as a good thing." << Lol
BingoBoingo: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Apparently Elliots are organizing themselves as a demographic! "How is that better than being ignorant? In some ways knowledge is more evil. Like the Asian women who write these “progressive” “feminist” articles about how they know its so bad being an Asian man, but sorry they also married a white man. Is that the model you are looking to, when you say you will be a WMAF who acknowledges racism against As
BingoBoingo: Mostly looks like a chronicle of every time local news papers censored race
mircea_popescu: and since we're doing not forgets, "i never ate outside of kfc in my whole life, but i think i heard granpa call granma a filthy arab whore, and so therefore i am culturally arabic and OMFG NEED UTF-256 WHERE ARE THE SQUIGGLIES TO FILL MY INNER VOIDS!!!"
mircea_popescu: logically it follows, i'm just a curmudgeon and gtfo my lawn.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ima go to the doctor and he's going to feel my abdomen and then say "hmm... i can feel a petrified being sick of ustards right here next to the spleen" << Still less of a disease state than being a USTard. At least you KNOW when you are sick, even if it is bubbles.
mircea_popescu: ima go to the doctor and he's going to feel my abdomen and then say "hmm... i can feel a petrified being sick of ustards right here next to the spleen"
mircea_popescu: yet the difference between us, whereby when he asks for a difference i provide the difference, but when i ask for a difference he has nothing to show, is entirely lost on him. and this DOESNT suggest to him that perhaps he's not yet up to the task of comprehending such intricacies as might not be obvious even to thinking folks.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on other hand, the fact that a wot is a local object ( and doesn't 'decentralize' ) is not necessarily obvious, even to thinking folx
mircea_popescu: "tasklead" for "shithive" and whatnot. such a wunderbarl world little girls have tea with sam in!
sn0wmonster: now that i know it's not but for a single technical difference that i was already planning on fixing before coming here, i'm left with only your narcissistic rants and runarounds.
mircea_popescu: sn0wmonster the moment you stumble into a technical discussion with "proposals" on the level of "hey guise i just heard about this cryptormation superhighway, here's how to fix it", YOU made the discussion about you.
asciilifeform: sn0wmonster: trinque's wotron ( which is in use here ) gives you a complete copy of the wot on demand. how would you make this 'more decentralized' ?
asciilifeform: theoretically, if d00d has a brain, it could be explained to'im
sn0wmonster: is there a technical reason why it hasn't been built yet?
sn0wmonster: you'll have to do a bit better than narcissistic ravings
mircea_popescu: sn0wmonster you're not here to learn. you're here to try and bludgeon the world into a shape your head may fit. this is the opposite of learning. learning is when you change. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: your wheel ain't a wheel.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly what d-k is all about. think for a second : years ago when i specced this, i could just as well ahve specced it that way. what, you think the-people-who-matter need you to come by ten years late and show them the wheel ?
mircea_popescu: no. and there is a reason for that.
sn0wmonster: mircea_popescu, are there any decentralized web-of-trusts that allow GPG authenticated ratings and comments to be left for GPG authenticated users without needing to connect to IRC or a centralized website to interact with it?
mircea_popescu: it is NOT, very specifically and poinedly not, coming up with a "catchy" socialistard name and then trying to build "ideas" around it.
asciilifeform: ( alternatively -- yank the nic and put in the serial port card, they're a few bux secondhand )
asciilifeform: shinohai: if you get one with a nic, make sure to segment it away from anything interesting
mircea_popescu: that is a sufficient difference.
sn0wmonster: i've been trying to find the perfect WoT system to include into #Taskhive for a while now and i was under the impression that#bitcoin-otc simply decentralized would suffice,
sn0wmonster: that is a problem
sn0wmonster: have a general question really
erlehmann: i suspect this method of taint analysis can be useful for more than just the question “who is at risk when a condom broke?”
BingoBoingo: It's actually a rather popular subscription service among oldsters who think they are millenials, "dollar shame club". Even has radio advertising jingles.
shinohai: Gentleman, meet a real-life Sam: http://archive.is/F6OzP
trinque: looks like freenode isn't having a great day
jhvh1: stormy with a chance of packeting
phf: mircea_popescu: so the server i was connected to rebooted (or something like that), and then i was sitting on reconnect for a bit, until i explicitly changed it to a different server. what was it doing?
asciilifeform: i saw a tub of similar size, in the port, named 'ctrl-alt-del'
mircea_popescu: cluj is a city on the hill, going to colege there implies (or did at the time) 2 miles / day walked uphill... ah what times.
mircea_popescu: i guess i'm a monster!
a111: Logged on 2015-04-23 12:23 ascii_panama: some nonzero portion of socialistoidderp is 'revenge' of low-smv folks against the high. dan mocsny observed this and it is a hypothesis with some explanatory power.
mircea_popescu: people love to think their dumb shit is their own, yet a kid who's never been touched will "by itself" behave exactly the same way as an adult all the time no exceptions.
asciilifeform: from also same rag, moar gold, 'A Pennsylvania man was convicted Tuesday of sexually assaulting six young sisters married off by their parents in return for financial support.... The verdict came almost a year after police said they found Kaplan living with 12 females at his Feasterville home, including an 18-year-old who prosecutors said was "gifted" to him after he provided financial support for her parents.' ( https://archive.is/x
asciilifeform: in other amerilulz from same rag, https://archive.is/Bxot3 >> 'In a report published Sunday, Pyongyang's state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) accused US Department of Homeland Security officers and airport police of taking a diplomatic package away from the delegation, which it said carried a valid diplomatic courier certificate. KCNA called the incident "an illegal and heinous act of provocation," adding that US authorities b
mircea_popescu: the whole "stigmatize criminal gang pretending to enforce law" is a true conceptual revolution, much more so than piddly efforts such as "destigmatize faggotry"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a pretty long list of things that being shot by police - beats
mircea_popescu: yet in the country where the idiots think "discussing your salary is a social faux pas", the social stigma still attaches to "accused of" rather than to "law" enforcement.
asciilifeform: ( unless you're a 'sonderbehandlung' case, e.g. in gitmo )
hanbot: the rationale of which iirc was supposed to be that a judge would be less affected by her "bad attitude" in the texts or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: ahahaah check that retarded shit out, jury actually came out with a guilty verdict. because "it's terribly terribly bad some loser bit it" and that's good enough a rationale.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-19 16:51 asciilifeform: 'take this magic pill' -- sells. 'go eat nagant, you were a mistake of nature' -- doesn't
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-19#1672255 << apparently saying the latter is now a criminal offense worthy of 20 years' time, in greatest country in the world. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'take this magic pill' -- sells. 'go eat nagant, you were a mistake of nature' -- doesn't ☟︎
mircea_popescu: seriously now, see a loser, mock a loser. preferably to death, but if not to tears.
asciilifeform: the other bit is that 'i'll die a hunchback, but hey i have a shovel and can enhunchback my neighbour, he will share in the misery' is a 'logical' process. the spartans, i suspect, understood this, i.e. it is catastrophically stupid to 'live and let live' the deformed. esp. the mentally deformed.
mircea_popescu: "maybe if i fuck up the republic / burn the temple, people will remember me for that rather than for being so ugly monkeys averted their eyes / having a really ridiculously small penis."
trinque: evokes a teenager taking passive aggression out on a wall.
mircea_popescu: trinque syria is little more than a firing range. used to be a country, but... went the way of the united states.
trinque: what, everyone's going to go punch syria harder, and from a slightly different angle?
asciilifeform: phf: also at a certain point 'they don't know about tmsr' evaporates and turns into 'they studiously ignore, like bernstein'
phf: i agree, there's only so many "we reversed this obscure tamagochi device" or "we figured out how to put SWF into a JPEG" articles one can read. but i just read it for the presentation. used to be a lot more zines in the late 90s early 2000s, so i suspect the whole poc||gtfo is a "thirsty man in the desert" thing
mircea_popescu: shinohai the problem with usoviet academiatards is that they "see the potential" in a very special definition of potential.
asciilifeform: hey i know a TCP jokehey i know a TCP jokehey i know a TCP jokehey i know a TCP jokehey i know a TCP jokehey i know a TCP jokehey i know a TCP joke[barf]
Framedragger: a good UDP joke
phf: "i know a good UDP joke, but i don't think you'll get it"
asciilifeform: happen first, but A is guarded by B, and C ensures that B cannot happen." This is a temporal logic proof, over a certain code path. It's complex, fragile in the face of code evolution, and totally unacceptable in professional code development. We want flat, simple invariants, maintained by following best practices. Without regard for the correctness of the student's code, we grade such cases a 2 out of 10. They ought to know better,
asciilifeform: meanwhile, among the ethermonkeys, 'they have messy code paths, don't follow best practices, and happen to work by the skin of their teeth. The code works on a good day with the wind on its back. But when it comes to corner cases, things get awfully complex. In the course I teach, when I point out such situations to students, they go into a diatribe that goes "well, you see, the problem can't arise because for it to happen, A has to
mircea_popescu: of course, it depends how you count these things. international pantsuit party lost a buncha "invisible" planes to ru trained specialists working ru gear in eg serbia.
mircea_popescu: which from what i hear a LOT of generals in the ru army really wish to do.