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mircea_popescu: fucking broken society, nobody has any idea of their place anymore
mircea_popescu: these are just... random nobody. figures he can write to people who he doesn't know, and tell them what to do
mircea_popescu: forget censorship even, that's something for the powerful
PeterL: they think you are hurting their feelings?
mircea_popescu: i keep getting requests from derps to delete this or that bit from trilema as if this were somehow a matter of course
assbot: Switzerland to Take Back Its Gold? | Sprott Money Blog
nara__narayana: kk thanks
assbot: Logged on 04-10-2014 02:47:05; mircea_popescu: but anyway, only someone who had physically visited switzerland cca say 1994 can appreciate the immensity of the drop
nara__narayana: i was under the impression that switzerland was a banking hub due to many circumstances, both political and geographical
decimation: nara__narayana: not really, who wants to bank in switzerland when they will divulge your banking to anyone who asks?
nara__narayana: jk those bankers fucking got it made
nara__narayana: care to elaborate why?
decimation: it motivates me to visit Liechtenstein one day, it's probably the closest the world has to an actual historical form of functional government
dub: most likely to succeed, at suicide
asciilifeform vaguely recalls turnbull having claimed that the Ik are in fact ancient egyptians. or was this in a bad dream ?
dub: who is curernt holder of teh title?
decimation: yeah I got the same feeling in boston
asciilifeform: (even when the colours match)
mircea_popescu: go into the street, short bug-like big nosed arab orcs
mircea_popescu: started in egypt, this. spent a day in the museum surrounded by tall, lithe, elegant nosed people
mircea_popescu: you know i tend to think the exact same ?
decimation: when I was last in europe (london) I got the depressing feeling that the shells of the historic buildings were being occupied by squatters unworthy of their inheritance
mircea_popescu: well maybe not that funny
nara__narayana: mircea_popescu funny you mention that, cousin committed suicide just recently
mircea_popescu: decimation doesn't seem to affect the scots
decimation: probably because it's depressing as fuck to know that your culture is on the permanent wane
mircea_popescu: back in 1980 the big news was that east germany became the 2nd highest (after hungary, everyone shook shoulders- of course after hungary)
mircea_popescu: nara__narayana quite particular. for 100 years straight the highest suicide rate in europe
mircea_popescu: the womenz married to romanians won't live, the boys fdesperately in love wiht the womenz...
asciilifeform: they're chained to walls, or what ?
decimation: yeah, I strongly doubt that the austro-hungarians would have resisted the 'democracy' derpage
nara__narayana: my grandfather still complains about the Hungarian population of peoples geographically stuck in Transylvania
decimation: that is an even more interesting thought.
mircea_popescu: but ironically, i think by now it'd have looked exactly like us
mircea_popescu: now, had the austro-hungarians actually defeated the nasty side of germans, then yes, europe as world power.
asciilifeform: afaik those are dead, like dodo.
asciilifeform: (they are in the process of adopting english as an official language. so, go ask them what they're called.)
nara__narayana: what minds do you think the US harvested for their rocket progammes?
asciilifeform: though they don't call themselves that
decimation: hehe you mean the crazy 'ukrainian nationalists'?
nara__narayana: oh they certainly did
asciilifeform: go and say hello to them.
asciilifeform: they survived in a little nature preserve - there.
decimation: one wonders what ukraine would be like today if the nazis managed to survive in some fashion
asciilifeform: if you stay out of the buildings (not everyone can resist temptation to teleport into a nearly intact soviet childhood) it's clean. cleaner than a good chunk of the 'civilized' world.
decimation: I suspect that the nasty emissions that blot the sun from the sky in china do 'more harm', however you want to measure
decimation: lol 'most toxic place on earth'
assbot: The Babushkas of Chernobyl | A story of three unlikely heroines from the most toxic place on Earth
mircea_popescu: wasn't there some nutty motorcycle chick that kept sneaking in for a while ?
PeterL: their breeding the X-men in there!
decimation: I saw a show about it once, I think there is still a stubborn russian orthodox church open there too
asciilifeform: more interesting than the birds and wolves - are the very old women (mostly women) who still live there.
decimation: but that isn't gonna end humanity, just raise the probability of certain cancers
mircea_popescu: but anyway, for living things the problem is mostly their own metabolism. radioactive iodine is not distinguished from plain iodine ends up in endocrine system. strontium is, as far as the body is concerned, perfectly good calcium. so on.
asciilifeform: the ~30yr. half lives of sr-90 and cs-137 are just that
decimation: I would believe that. The main problem is gonna be stuff that gets taken up in plants over the long term
mircea_popescu: yeah, more wash than decay really.
decimation: heh yeah that too
decimation: that was the point of the 'cold war shelter' - live in a box until the really hot stuff rots away and then come out in relative safety
mircea_popescu: there's probably stuff all the way to 230 in there.
decimation: the main problem is the stuff that decays slowly, but on the upside it decays slowly - less intense radiation
mircea_popescu: well if the reaction runs away... pretty much everything forms.
decimation: pretty much everything lower than Pu in the atomic table is present to some degree inside a fission reactor
decimation: yeah that's not so good, take your iodine pills to keep it out of your endocrine system
assbot: Something Surprising Happened to the Animals Around Chernobyl 28 Years After the Disaster - Mic
mircea_popescu: decimation iodine was most of the fallout
decimation: yeah, depends where it was and how much plutonium stuck to it
asciilifeform: doesn't rain inside the box
decimation: people get their panties in a bind about radiation, it's everywhere in varying amount
decimation: eh, it's pretty easy to clean up fallout
nara__narayana: who doesn't need their daily dose of radioactive decay?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're not that hot anymore anyway
asciilifeform: just a little bit of reactor crud in them.
asciilifeform: perfectly good machines - tanks, trucks, etc
nara__narayana: what will be gotten from said tech?
asciilifeform: ('graveyard' was full of perfectly good mothballed tech)
asciilifeform: word is - this has happened.
asciilifeform: i kept wondering, for months, when 'hot' machines from Pripyat will turn up
asciilifeform: (ancient favourite trick, if anyone didn't know it)
asciilifeform: 16:40 mark - fellow explains why ropes on stiff's feet (own side) - tied, to pull him a bit from a distance, see if 'surprise underneath'
nara__narayana: who's seeing the blood moon?
decimation: the pci card off of ebay I linked awhile back. $3k golden toliet price, I paid 100
nara__narayana: crypto+mobile tech has allowed be to do this thank god
decimation: asciilifeform: I got that u-blox neo-7n module running, now to use pps signal to discipline that ocxo card
mircea_popescu: "see this ? guess which limb i'm missing, mr x?" "uhh" "the shame. just like you."
mircea_popescu: i never really care, except i bought the yugo equivalent of the purple heart from a lame guy once and wore it to a politico party to make ap oint
asciilifeform played with big tub of these as a boy
mircea_popescu: sort-of like in a sports team. lucky charms and all that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik the stuff is traded widely among active duty men.
PeterL: Isn't it generally accepted that semi-auto is more effective?
asciilifeform: interesting that everyone pictured is firing semi-auto
PeterL: asciilifeform: which side are the soldiers in the video?
mircea_popescu: proxy wars to the death, over there.
nara__narayana: so that's pretty chill
nara__narayana: just learned today that assad and ISIL/ISIS/TNEX are pretty closely tied
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOK5pon8-Ok << no eng. subs for the inglischers unfortunately. but still educational.
nara__narayana: you guys seen this yet?
assbot: Why does the CDC own a patent on Ebola 'invention?' - NaturalNews.com
mircea_popescu: i think the last guy that tried to do anything substantial was reagan. maybe nixon.
mircea_popescu: dub: you have a Guiding Hand whose system elects temporary emperors in a way designed to obfuscate it from the herd << emperors my foot. pretty much all the president can do is mispronounce for the camera and be made a laughingstock of.