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mircea_popescu: like the 1812/13 ? or prior ?
asciilifeform: dub: when folks start to burst in shopping malls into bloody mess, they won't be able to keep a lid on it. and they know it. so what can they do? cultivate an atmosphere of bullshit, so the news will be met with maximal skepticism.
chetty: dub, they took another one into isolation to 'test'
ben_vulpes: it was a passing note, take it up with Barber!
asciilifeform: dub: they're ddosing the public with 'yet another 134 false alarms in city X!'
mircea_popescu: dub the sherrif apparently is suspcious
dub: is there acutally more cases of obola or are yall watching fox again
chetty: asciilifeform, I like that definition
ben_vulpes: ottomans survived regular decimations in constantinople, according to "The Sultans"
mircea_popescu: chetty this is roughly like the "can't get aids from mosquitoes/bugs
BingoBoingo: chetty: No one knows where the line is, may vary in different situations
chetty: me dont believe thay actually know for sure
mircea_popescu: there's good biological reason for this
asciilifeform: chetty: when exactly do you cross the line << from a sane (e.g. soviet) epidemiologist's point of view - when you set foot in a 'hot zone' - you're infectious until proven innocent.
asciilifeform: and to desaparecer certain inconveniences in the chaos.
chetty: but seriously when exactly do you cross the line to being infections? the exact second you show a fever? the first time you cough? of just maybe its actually 5 minutes before ...
bounce: that whole patenting thing?
asciilifeform: or at least, someone seems to think so
asciilifeform: nah, it's because this is a golden chance for usg.
mircea_popescu: kenya is not even on the list ?
asciilifeform: gotta bring in more, you see, texas seed might die out.
mircea_popescu: i don't get this. you telling me it's specifically because obama is a kenyan citizen ?
mircea_popescu: n ow on the other hand, who gives a shit about west africa flights...
ben_vulpes: you better lose yourself in the pandemic \ you own it, you better never let it go \ you only get one shot do not miss your chance to blow
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is some merit to this. apparently it's not infectious presymptomatically.
asciilifeform: official excuse is, get this, 'you can't get infected on the plane, we check for fever getting off'
asciilifeform: and the flights carry on.
mircea_popescu: if the mortality is 20% from the disease and another 10% from the resulting stampede that's about 100mn deaths in the us by 2016.
mircea_popescu: from the looks of it they've got maybe even odds to lose control and end up with an epidemic
BingoBoingo: I have a gut feeling that the big reason more US'ians don't follow through with their going to Canada threats is that Canada is too close to what they are leaving. That and Canada doesn't really want them.
BingoBoingo: I imagine within the decade Mexico will be more concerned about illegals coming from the US than the other way.
The20YearIRCloud: texas has more health problems from illegals coming over the boarder than it does with ebola (all healthwise)
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BingoBoingo: Basically texas needs quarantined nao
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mircea_popescu: wasn't it the dog that went to moon ?
mike_c: last i heard we had hit moon and were aiming for mars. but i don't keep track.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I thought we never really hit the moon yet, just low earth orbit.
asciilifeform: an actual word to describe the sheer ugliness of tshirts and chinos as worn by the modern western plebs >> neal stephenson's 'slines'
mike_c: really? i thought we were going back to moon now.
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mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/o-hai-i-was-justing-doing-a-penetration-test-of-your-site/ more in the same style.
mircea_popescu: what is he going to do with it ?
mike_c: GET /gow//.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\.\..\etc/passwd << does this shit actually still work on anyone?
mircea_popescu: wow shit there's an actual word to describe the sheer ugliness of tshirts and chinos as worn by the modern western plebs ?!
mircea_popescu: first lady of teh internets neh ?
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: no, and if I was I think I'd rather shoot myself than work for EA :P
mircea_popescu: Azelphur going to be a game dev ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo jesus i pity the sane people there.
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun Let's design an ATM card that is a Bitcoin wallet. Who is up to the task with me. Ideas? Thoughts? Purpose: so that dumb users can just "get a card" rather than have to learn how to set up a complicated node on a p2p network. They already use ATM cards. So, this is a form factor thing. << The people who hop on -dev so srs
mircea_popescu: and for the kids following at home : http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7800000/SAM-4-samantha-fox-7878744-363-500.jpg << this is samantha fox. for a year or two she was probably the most jacked off to woman in teh world.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: One of them. I dunno if he is a ranger, but he lurks a lot of places and interupts
bounce: this is a weird way to follow an argument. is there a log of -dev somewhere?
mircea_popescu: what, he's a core ranger now too ?
mircea_popescu: is that the guy that was arguing with assbot ?
BingoBoingo: skinnkavaj agrees with Gavin on scalability, that dooms it.
bounce recalls someone complaining about kids wasting massive amounts of bandwidth on youtube music videos just for the audio; the browser window with the player is kept in the background
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mircea_popescu: cuz who the fuck has the time for video.
bounce: though as time went on I find myself watching less and less video. curious how that works, or doesn't.
mircea_popescu: and this one fails on a number of grounds
mircea_popescu: jurov not quite. i dun want jack shit. but when presented with an argument to
bounce doesn't see that happen in a bit. just like the peecee business is in a bit of a slump, because, well, there's only so much cpu power reasonably wastable on eyecandy.
jurov: we want for bitcoin to have limited supply, not just amount but also blockchain space
mircea_popescu: what is going to HALF it to a minute ? by next year ?
mircea_popescu: bounce sure. but by now it takes two minutes to dld a film and 120 to watch it
jurov: i see some conflation of technical and economical arguments
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That -dev conversation has some interesting derping lower down with luke and Gavin agreeing
bounce: could be, but it boomed for a goodly bit, because it could. netflix took over torrent in biggest traffic (oh woe is the mafiaa and their pr-war), and so on.
mircea_popescu: but in fact gavin executing usg agenda. those twerps have few ideas and they keep redressing them everywhere.
mircea_popescu: it's in fact exactly recycled golfclub pattern talk, which is exactly how the independent observer knows this is not merely gavin derping,
mircea_popescu: "bandwidth will double each year for 20 years because it has in a very rare circumstance the past 10" is not unlike the way people try to sell "global warming"
bounce: so it's maybe a bit early to decide there won't be bandwidth because there won't be drive. may be. maybe not. it's not a given either way.
mircea_popescu: last i heard youtube traffix was waning, but be that as it may,
bounce: oh I haven't really kept up with that. maybe I should read up. but the point in the very general sense is that we don't know yet how we're going to waste tomorrow's bandwidth. you know, like youtube is quite a thing these days, but only can exist because availability of >>dialup bandwidths
mircea_popescu: bounce maybe. again, im not saying "no" or "never" here. i'm trying to do some actual reasoning on evaluating patently insane claims sprouted by gavin.
jurov: i just referred to "to make sluts look good"
mircea_popescu: now this is a very distant, removed argument. but that doesn't entirely destroy it. sure, it's useless in a 5 year discussion.,
bounce: uncompressed hi-res n-dim medical imaging is a good, morally upstanding way to stuff the pipe. even if it's a bit of a niche now.
mircea_popescu: there substantially isn't something as interesting to people.
mircea_popescu: "full image of the human person" is also a limit, in fact. quite biological.
mircea_popescu: bounce yes, but see, just like light in glass is a limit of the universe, that's relevant,
bounce: well, there's the thing. the phone system didn't really improve substantially until someone found a reason to repurpose that last mile for DSL. even if that DSL now mostly carries crap better carried some other way, or not at all.
mircea_popescu: in 1990 i could see it, we wanted to see samantha fox naked in color, rather than black/white ascii art.
mircea_popescu: so what's going to push your dubling each year ? faeries ?
mircea_popescu: by now the limit on porn is that nobody can be fucking bothered to make the sluts look good in 8k hd.
mircea_popescu: which is a major fucking point that got neglected so far. there's this seinfeld where george tries to sell computers
bounce: in 170 years? doesn't sound unreasonable, provided we keep up the pace.
mircea_popescu: bounce 100tb ? nuts, but perhaps THIS side of nuts.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> want ten terabyte / sec ? catapult, disks. << Stationwagon and tape may still be king
asciilifeform: want ten terabyte / sec ? catapult, disks.
thickasthieves: jurov, ok, maybe all mp meant by being the financial center is that HE is the center, and since we orbit around him, we aren't careening into the abyss