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mats_cd03: interesting to me, since i know about zero things re: rsa.
assbot: security - Why is this commit that sets the RSA public exponent to 1 problematic? - Stack Overflow
mircea_popescu: "nigga please, the world ? it's so ended already!"
mircea_popescu: that site's so funny, it's been declaring the world ends tomorrow so convincingly and for so long by now its only audience are people who actually factually believe the world ends tomorrow, each and every day. so there's this palpable atmosphere of
mircea_popescu: o which reminds me, did the doom zerohedge announced as a given manifest in the fx markets yet ?
bounce: oh yes ticker tape parades any day now
mircea_popescu: they've already won the war on drugs, the war on poverty and the war on terrorism.
mircea_popescu: since when did the us agents do the smart thing ?
bounce: oh it's not really a surprise, but his is supposedly a PR club, not a policing club. not smart to get mired in that swamp.
mircea_popescu: not particularly curious as to how that confrontation's gonna end out. seen too many tards try to spit up.
mircea_popescu: "fuck you and get used to making the laws you can enforce as opposed to making the laws your delusions require" ?
mircea_popescu: lol what's he going to say.
bounce: ``Patrick Murck of the Bitcoin Foundation stated that "the people that do this stuff should burn in hell" and they are working to stop Bitcoin from being used for illicit activity.'' -- clowns be clownin'
assbot: Logged on 10-10-2014 18:21:00; mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: i suppose it's possible for bitcoin to be worth more than all the transactable equity in the world <<< this is actually one of the largest, most interesting questions in bitcoin finance.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell wywialm there's one for you : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867881 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps going to be the one thing economists of the future will be trying to keep in balance.
mircea_popescu: (hoarded btc) + traded btc = traded property + (hoarded property)
mircea_popescu: however, because bitcoin will be hoarded in general and transacted rarely, it is quite possible for there to appear a new macroeconomics equation :
mircea_popescu: superficially, if one thinks btc is a drop-in replacement for fiat (which it isn't, just like car isn't exactly a drop in replacement for tricycle) one'd expect the same to hold
mircea_popescu: it doesn't have a good answer. on one hand, fiat currency can never meet the total asset value, for very well understood reasons.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: i suppose it's possible for bitcoin to be worth more than all the transactable equity in the world <<< this is actually one of the largest, most interesting questions in bitcoin finance. ☟︎
mike_c: i linked it above the comment. << that link 404'd for me.
mircea_popescu: add the full minutes as an add-on file to be linked from your article for the perennially curious
princessnell_: the whole thing: his opening statements and Q&A
mircea_popescu: princessnell_ the one he published or the one he acutally gave ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so it turns out deedbot got haxed. << deets? << someone put a random deed up there, i linked it above the comment.
princessnell_: i have a transcript of the andreas testimony
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: (put a bullet through a long-overdue zombie) << zombie being what, people running gentoo through an emulator on windows ?
bounce: oh wait, that's for something else. n'mind.
mike_c: the name is hardly enough barry. where's the logo?
assbot: Important step towards separating our bitcoin biz from /SecondMarket. The name.Introducing...Digital Currency Group http://t.co/s4Hld235bP
asciilifeform never met an apocalyptic hypothetical megadeath that herr orlov doesn't love.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 356.03, Best ask: 357.19, Bid-ask spread: 1.16000, Last trade: 356.03, 24 hour volume: 31630.34152670, 24 hour low: 349.0, 24 hour high: 380.94, 24 hour vwap: 364.911597788
bounce: feeding random bits to that vaikan thingy makes me lose 2:1. seems that giving the thing a pass option gives it an unfair advantage.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing doing news pieces because that's the news. but people writing blogs aren't doing newspieces, they're doing editorial, and the news burnout is a century old, well known and documented mode of failure for editors.
pete_dushenski: and with that, ima check y'all later!
mircea_popescu: soon enough all the forced writing kills your spark and then you're dead.
mircea_popescu: "o, x is in the news , i gotta write about it then1"
mircea_popescu: the problem with drinking the coolaid and starting to perceive yourself as "of a field" is that you end up with this obligatory slag.
assbot: ClubOrlov: Ebola and the Five Stages of Collapse
assbot: Bitcoin history: The BearWhale of 2012 : Bitcoin
asciilifeform: 'map is not territory, but the territory does not fit in your glove compartment.'
mircea_popescu: no argument, but let's not forget they aren't in the world.
asciilifeform: but engineer must live with brute abstractions at times.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform these are also not pure categories in nature. their distinction follows tradition
pete_dushenski: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases << 0.6-0.7 zip and tar files are here, just unsure how to modify pankkake's node.sh script with them…
asciilifeform: makes a difference what part of his hindbrain you pwned to get him to walk the plank
mircea_popescu: objective difference there isn't.
mircea_popescu: these aren't distinguishable in the field. the nominal distinction follows mood or at best tradition.
asciilifeform: for purposes of chumpatronic engineering, it does indeed matter whether the chump needs a leash, coaxing, or mere suggestion to jump into the hopper.
mircea_popescu: which is why business has the concept of "knew or should have known". cuz it makes exactly no difference whether he "actually" knew.
mircea_popescu: the female ability to reclassify rape as consensual and consensual as rape and to negotiate her own presence in the circumstances of her being does exactly jack shit for any discussion of reality.
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2014 20:41:17; asciilifeform: Officially, all Soviet representatives regard these parasites with touching feelings of friendship, but privately they call them 'shit-eaters' ('govnoed'). It is difficult to say where this expression originated, but it is truly the only name they deserve. The use of this word has become so firmly entrenched in Soviet embassies that it is impossible to imagine any other name for these people. A conver
mircea_popescu: half of leningrad died in one night because a bunch of people "weren't really doing" what they were doing.
asciilifeform: those aren't 'useful idiots' thought
mircea_popescu: they weren't really aware what it is they're doing, right ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's such bs. you know how the soviets worked, right ? all the scum reporting to the nkvd "had to", right ?
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, like Karpeles and the like
asciilifeform: as i understand, a genuine 'useful idiot' by definition has to act unwittingly
mircea_popescu: convenient idiots ? tyvm, it's exactly anderpopolous' line. "i'm not really shilling, i'm just stupid. buy my shit!"
devthedev: mircea_popescu: It's on the school's blacklist.
mircea_popescu: then zeke is all "o, not possible to be stooges". duh. what else are they ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it's exactly that parallel: both teams of tards belong to a religion sans eglise
gribble: diana_coman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 1 hour, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <diana_coman> I'm to blame for Sweete__ being here, since he pm-ed me about trading and I asked him why wasn't he in here if he was a trader
bounce: the google translation contains a typical english grammar error (it's instead of its). how chinesely interesting.
mircea_popescu: it seems the exact same sort of entirely broken, pseudoscientific, narcissistic gung-ho idiocy
mircea_popescu: am i the only one who is amused by the strict similarity between the "o we know how climate works ; listen to us to fix what's broken with earth's industry" of these muppets and the "o, we know how hardware will work in the future ; listen ot us to fix what's broken with bitcoin" of the BF sponsored muppets ?
pete_dushenski: "The Earth hasn't warmed for > 18 years and counting. CO2 meanwhile continues to increase. Ergo. No connection between CO2 and global temperature. CAGW is false."
assbot: Antarctic ice at ALL TIME RECORD HIGH: We have more to learn, says boffin The Register Forums
asciilifeform: http://www.vaikan.com/man-vs-machine << mega-lol. chicom lifted the ancient turd.
mircea_popescu: get in the wot will you.
mircea_popescu: why ty.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform matters not. the lord doesn't aim to kill sin, merely as many sinners as can get hands on.
mircea_popescu: for instance, about 98% of english speaking people involved in earth studies just rendered themselves
asciilifeform: if only it were just that one field, that was lysenkoized.
bounce: more of a problem with politics' unhealthy relationship with science-as-convenient-truth than a problem in science. though science has its share of problems.
mircea_popescu: they're dead, for that profession.
mircea_popescu: if you support policy with your "findings" you ruin your career once those findings turn out to be not truth, but mere science.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is why it's unwise for people aspiring to science to get involved in politics.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: traditionally it's 'more studies needed'
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski oh, that's how you say "we fucked up royally and lost any possible shred of crediblity" in government-scientistalese now ? "we have more to learn" ?
assbot: Antarctic ice at ALL TIME RECORD HIGH: We have more to learn, says boffin The Register
asciilifeform: ('shate' - past tense of 'shit' in world where shitting and eating are closely linked semantically more so than for us? as in 'ate')
asciilifeform: last version i read, disk i/o was implemented via 'pio' vs dma, so not optimal. but ought to suffice for just about any practical use.
asciilifeform: anyway the link is because that fellow's site is the only place where you find everything you need to initialize an x86-64 all in one place.
mircea_popescu: did they implement javascript:sendushatemail(); ?
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic the notion of javascript:pop makes me sad.
asciilifeform: or the like.
mircea_popescu: bounce not nearly as hard as a compiler, if you mean a tight optimizing compiler. otherwise, rms has been writing compilers in a day and a half on emacs.
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, a shame the website thought it would be a good idea to use javascript popups as links
bounce: no idea how many man-hours or how it compares to, say, implementing a new compiler for some nicely convoluted language.
mircea_popescu: making it take off and become what EVERYONE uses is going to be a lot more work than that.
bounce: oh, you can implement a tcp/ip stack, apparently not too much work. making it work well, especially tcp, is going to be a bit more work though.
asciilifeform: that no one man could ever hope to repeat with own hands.
asciilifeform: people act as if tcp/ip were a moon rocket
bounce: you'd need a tcp/ip stack linked to your program meaning that as soon as it quits the box is off the 'net, but whatever it's configured to use it'll use.
asciilifeform: (i have my own very similar widget, that i've used for 'number crunching' tasks where an os just wastes cycles)
mircea_popescu: bounce i think stan's a bit of a masochist rly.
bounce: "something as hardware nonspecific as possible" meaning the shittiest and slowest option you can think of is a bit of a non-argument really.
mircea_popescu: "the liver is fine, it's all that other shit sround it"