asciilifeform: lobbes: let it eat the #u archive, then run reader.py, take a look at the known barf lines from before. if it ate correctly, make again vpatch (from current leaf of tree) and i'ma sign, then eat on dulap.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho this patient oughta go straight to mp's operating room, if he'll have him
asciilifeform: can go straight here, if mp dun object
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hey do you think you can get the good doktor povey to come & visit ?
asciilifeform: lobbes: over time there was series of small changes to that awk, to work around various congenital defects of gnupatch; ended up with phf et al writing entirely new replacement proggy, which is the current vdiff.
asciilifeform: lobbes: in traditional heathen patching, gnupatch will attempt to shoehorn a patch into place for so long as it does not entirely conflict with the existing text
asciilifeform: lobbes: observe that vpatches carry hashes, and demand that the output of prev. patch , going back to genesis, has to specific value. i.e. prohibit 'fuzzy'
asciilifeform: anyffin to keep the 'feel like a trader'(tm) tards from waking up to fact that pressure washer + petrol easily mows down 1000+ , while e.g. kalash into crowd, lucky if 100.
asciilifeform: this is why reich propaganda machine tirelessly repeats the line where 'postal, is what you do with rifle, let's fixate on rifle'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik chinese to this day fly 100% license-built ru machines (with minor cosmetic modifications)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: pretty sure it was linked. and imho not entirely surprising -- these folx were still sitting in trees when europe was puzzling over jurisprudence . so naturally they will write 'buggy reimplementation of 80% of lis^H^H^H justinian et al' , just as they 'invent' caesar's cipher etc
asciilifeform: empire of rome detectably 'wanted' to be something like today's reich, aha. didn't have the industrial process to make it stick tho.
asciilifeform: observe incidentally that germany's slaves also were 'imam-distributed' . hence my suspicion, that 'legionnaires personally take slaves' doesn't extend to when the primary weapons are industrially-crafted objects with gnarly maintenance cycles, only really extends to when gladius.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: as far as i can tell, they ~tried~ to '51st state'. problem is that inca can't even fully digest 1 baltimore, merely 1 small (physically large, but not so habitated) town where folx willing to ~sometimes~ shoot, much less entire iraq.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as mp pointed out on numerous occasions, there is no substantive diff b/w argentina and usa, britain, etc. rest of reich.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the reason why the fiat printers can't take argentina behind the shed and shoot it, no matter how obviously necessary, is that then would have to also take selves there also and shoot
asciilifeform: in the (per usg's Official Troof, 'bloodless') bloody coup of '93 that demolished remnant of sovok, observe -- no airplanes are known to have taken part.
asciilifeform: this reduces arguably to mp_en_viaje's old piece where 'height of the towers'. yes, tower is tall, but... yer in a tower.
asciilifeform: i see no reason to suppose that usg's 'computerized' planes behave any diff. from e.g. cisco's routers. ( and the turks appear to agree , fwiw )
asciilifeform: (i.e. fella inside ~could~ aim the cannon at the parliament and pull trigger and it ~would~ fire)
asciilifeform: 'warthog' is old-style machine, and much closer to onoda's rifle than to 'f35', from this angle
asciilifeform: imho this hypothesis has explanatory power, in re usg's eagerness (against protest of all of the generals!) to scrap, e.g. the famous 'warthog'
asciilifeform: observe, even today's debased piloting, where the man is largely in the cockpit to enter numbers into keypad -- gives , from reich's pov, too much to the man. and hence the ongoing effort to deskill even this profession, mechanize the machine 100% , remove the meat.
asciilifeform disclaims : not pilot. but arrived at this hypothesis not entirely from empty space.
asciilifeform: ( all 'magic coads' aside -- flyers depend on massive and well-oiled supply chain; picked -- and not merely by bureaucrats, but by the very modern machine's similarity to programmable comp -- for 'colouring in the lines' ; prolly suffices. )
asciilifeform: famously peron was overthrown with help of the exactly 2 little jets kurt tank was able to build in argentina. but doubt that today could happen similarly in reich, i suspect that the 'modern' machines will neither take off nor land w/out magic coad from inca satellite.
asciilifeform: in this light, the current reich's all-out investment in aviation (formerly -- of expensive-but-working, today, 'f35' style) actually makes sense.
asciilifeform: infantryman can take rifle and 'go off reservation', and, like the famous lt. onoda, grease it with fat of killed policemen for 4 decades. pilot -- not so much.
asciilifeform: infantryman -- can go home with slaves, or even with 17 train cars fulla gold watches (gen. zhukov) . pilot goes home with -- shirt. and some memories.
asciilifeform: and consequently that pilot (dun matter what personal courage, physical strength, etc) for so long as stays in the profession, is at the mercy of process much like what mp described re comp operators
asciilifeform: hey lobbes , why is there a MB of log for some rando heathen chan inside that genesis ??
asciilifeform would much like folx to start pressing the tree , and experimenting with own hands , rather than simply bringing tips to asciilifeform to make patch
asciilifeform: lobbes: you're invited to test locally , btw, don't have to wait for me
asciilifeform: lobbes: not 100% certain yet; will need to test
