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asciilifeform: cazalla: how does this work again? people submit items written for the occasion? or are they licensed from other sites ?
cazalla: so regards to finding additional author, on the about page i added must be in wot + 6 months #b-a logs, i'm happy to loosen requirements if article quality is up to par, what do people think?
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, lol, what did you expect me to say
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2014 05:02:00; cazalla: not at this time, it's only 2 weeks old, maybe it dies tmw who knows
RagnarDanneskjol: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2014#869192 << cazalla - one day hanging by a thread, next day listing on biggest exchange in teh universe http://www.troll.me/images/y-u-no/y-u-no-wait.jpg ☝︎
asciilifeform is able to identify the smaller devices in the upper right hand corner of photo, but not the large rectangular apparatus.
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform finds it quite impossible to imagine anything other than a mutilated corpse following 'won't believe what happens next' phrase. << Woodchipper fan fiction
asciilifeform finds it quite impossible to imagine anything other than a mutilated corpse following 'won't believe what happens next' phrase.
Adlai: i've been seeing "you won't believe what happens next" since the first banner ads
asciilifeform: rewire, homebrew. but do occasionally study how the damn thing works.
mircea_popescu: still, you gotta gimme something. don't use standard stuff, don't homebrew, what then ? wait for god ?
mircea_popescu: also true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, cryptography does not work this way. you can walk around for years as a zombie, while not knowing that you're really blown your brains out years ago and ought to rest in the grave.
mircea_popescu: provided he's given peashooters as a kid and encouraged to shoot himself till he gets tired of it.
mircea_popescu: ideally, by the time he's old enough to have a gun he has enough experience with peashooters to know better.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes. for the exponent example specifically, see coppersmith's attack.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not hard to see why schneier and his owner would tell us 'don't homebrew crypto', but the propaganda has a basis in honest fact - average 'k00l d00dz' programmer will hang himself with own gun
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's for small primes neh ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in cryptography, every constant's a salt. you're well advised to change ALL constants << and turn wrong knob, die by pollard rho or similar.
mircea_popescu: who/what had that tagline ? "you won't believe what happens next"
assbot: Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the user-friendliest solution would be to get a cheapo cert and then redirect it via mod_rewrite
mircea_popescu: but w/e, people gotta learn to get off https
mircea_popescu: it'll just bitch about expired cert then
mircea_popescu: cazalla you don't really need to do anything.
Apocalyptic: I know, I thought your statement was general and not related to qntra
Apocalyptic: the transmitted data
kakobrekla: green icon is nice though.
Apocalyptic: mircea, it at least adds security in the sense of preventing sniffing by some derps
Apocalyptic: the ssl cert provided seems to be for *.battlequest.com
cazalla: i didn't reg an ssl cert, the domain was dropped by qntra.com at some point i believe
Apocalyptic: <Adlai> qntra.net seems to have some ssl issue? // just got the error
kakobrekla: also is there a point in ssl if its optional
Adlai: well, the certificate is issued for a different domain name
Adlai: qntra.net seems to have some ssl issue?
cazalla: and this is what i link to from qntra?
mircea_popescu: http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=S.QNTR <<< so this is a little bit of news
kakobrekla: i dont know the details - not registered.
Adlai: they don't know anything about me other than an email address
Adlai: it seems as though all the software is in place, and this is obviously a feature that the average trader loves to use
Adlai doesn't understand why they haven't turned on the margin engine
mircea_popescu: Adlai it's how they squandered their original trust capital
kakobrekla: as for the infrastructure - i am quite confident they have less than half of what they had a year ago
Apocalyptic: Adlai, you're familiar with the "same deposit address to multiple customers" issue ?
kakobrekla: that is just one of the 1000 and 1 fails of kraken
Adlai: that doesn't make them derpy, just drastically lacking in infrastructure... which is a little derpy for an exchange
kakobrekla: prolly the most retarded setup on this planet.
kakobrekla: well since you worked with their api Adlai , you prolly noticed their rate limits
thestringpuller: interesting idea: way to tie entities to Web of Trust identities?
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2014 19:15:23; kakobrekla: kraken will trade you dead grandmother if the logo is nice.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla they all got raped because they thought themselves smarter than the b-a crowd.
kakobrekla: cautious in a situation like this.
mircea_popescu: it's not a slur, it's true :D
kakobrekla: and to add more to the logs, today from Darko (kraken) : The documentation on the partial payment feature is very poor. Even the Stellar Development Foundation only learned of the issue this past week. Even though there was an update to the Stellar code base to remove the feature, we are nonetheless taking the Stellar gateway offline until we can fully evaluate everything ourselves. Overly cautious perhaps, but we'd rather be overly
Adlai: LOL i didn't realize one could "welsh" on a bet, that's a new slur to me
mircea_popescu: see ? wasn't even that far off!
ninjashogun: No, those log searches don't show anything. But at least I personally think it's big news. This is from sept 30th.
thestringpuller: i dunno where we've discussed it to be honest. so the log search is not helping me. i'm also an idiot with archival retrieval sooo
mircea_popescu: Adlai it's pretty well established that bitfinex are derpy already.
ben_vulpes: damn ninjashogun you can't even be arsed to use the convenient logsearch?
ninjashogun: Let's talk about something interesting. Did you guys see htat Reddit's investors are giving 10% of their series B round to the reddit community? (http://blog.samaltman.com/reddit)
thestringpuller: thus in that context I not know ninjashogun.
thestringpuller: Apocalyptic: i only rate people when I do extensive interactions with them. or interactions highly dependent on trust.
bounce: hot text on text action
ninjashogun: What did you mean then?
kakobrekla: verbal is actually the wrong word here. hehe
ninjashogun: kakobrekla, yes of course they do.
kakobrekla: verbal transactions count.
Apocalyptic: thestringpuller, you don't know the fellow ?
ninjashogun: I mean they give the impression of being based on something (transactions with me etc).
bounce: how does that relate to you hanging out here, where those ratings come from?
ninjashogun: None of those are based on trades or knowing me in real life.
ninjashogun: they're just trollish ratings. The positive rating isn't merited either.
thestringpuller: wow thosea are some scary ratings ninjashogun
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask ninjashogun!~User@unaffiliated/ninjashogun. Trust relationship from user assbot to user ninjashogun: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -4 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=ninjashogun | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ninjashogun | Rated since: Thu Jun 26 19:05:58 2014
Adlai: there will always be demand for blood diamonds, you can't put the Magnificent Bitcoin Gem on a ring
thestringpuller: I'll just take refund/credit on future project or something
thestringpuller: you too nice
Adlai: nubbins`: sometimes context-free lels are the best?
xanthyos: will there be demand for blood diamonds if there's any chance it was ebola-contaminated blood?
thestringpuller: Poster lost in the sands of time forever.
thestringpuller: well at least the drama is affecting the price
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 380.71, Best ask: 380.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.28000, Last trade: 381.0, 24 hour volume: 13751.74284801, 24 hour low: 354.71, 24 hour high: 383.6, 24 hour vwap: 366.149981911
Adlai is just eyeing that spread
Adlai: right, they're busy making money off telepathically preempting The Manipulator
assbot: TH1BTC Speculation Thread - Bitfinex Cloud Mining Contract
kakobrekla: i guess they are too smart to be here
Adlai: (second this refers to cries of manipulation)
Adlai: oh, multiple threads full of lemmings crying manipulation. i hadn't paid this thing any attention until i saw this enough times to be sick of it.
kakobrekla: no i mean <Adlai> any of you watching the th1btc drama?
Adlai: chocolate will be the vector for the globola outbreak
kakobrekla: Adlai whats the drama
chetty: uhoh now this is serious:http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/ebola-chocolate-industry-africa-effects-111809.html
Adlai: rather than shorts causing a sell today and a buy later, shorts here require a buy then sell, and later on a buy followed by a sell of the lender cashing out
Adlai: my theory is there's no single manipulator. traders want to short, shorting requires borrowing the contract, borrowing requires lenders, lending requires buying. so trader A has to buy before trader B can short.
assbot: Logged on 31-03-2014 20:40:50; mircea_popescu: artifexd i dunno, it's been illo tempore policy that people accidentally spamming or otherwise unintentionally misbehave contribute to the port fund
Adlai: background: bitfinex created a cloud mining contract for a fixed time period, so its value *should* continuously decrease... but by making it possible to trade and loan as margin, they've created quite a bizarre asset which has everybody in the forums and reddit screaming about manipulation now
Adlai: any of you watching the th1btc drama?
xanthyos: i meant for it to all paste as one line
bounce: what with the sermon?