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Adlai: where do you
think I live?
Adlai: they don't measure strength when you come
to enlist :P
Adlai: let's
test correlation between reaction
time and dual N-back
mircea_popescu: averaging nonlinear measurements is a fine example of having passed
through college unattained.
Adlai: "intelligence" is a very nebulous concept. you can get precise measures for precise definitions of it, but i'm not
too interested in who can do long division faster in
their head
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel
there are many countless objections
to bring. for instance,
the country with a guy at 300 and
three guys at 50 is better
than
the country with
three guys at 150 ?
Adlai: that only
tests "intelligence" as it relates
to
the
types of "math" in your
test
BingoBoingo: Adlai: Get someone
to hit a controlled amount on a breathalyzer and have
them do math
gabriel_laddel: l children can do
them in less
than one second. More intelligent children, measured by conventional IQ
tests, perform faster on
these
tasks. East Asians average faster reaction
times
than Whites who, in
turn, have faster reaction
times
than Blacks."
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: from linked paper "National IQs have been reported for 192 countries around
the world.
The results show
that
the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; for US Blacks about 85, and for sub-Saharan African Blacks about 70.
The same rank-order of race differences is found for ‘‘culture-fair’’
tests and reaction-time measures. Reaction-time
tasks are so easy
that al
BingoBoingo: <Adlai> what is a "known simple
test" for "intelligence",
though? << Measured intoxication
assbot: PLOS ONE: Strong Genetic Influence on a UK Nationwide
Test of Educational Achievement at
the End of Compulsory Education at Age 16
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: "the genetics underpinnign cognitive function is debatable and poorly understood." really now? I looked into
this,
there is no debate on
the matter of race / iq / genetics (there is however, lots of screaming). What genes specifically determine iq is definitely up for debate.
assbot: Interpupillary distance - Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: it's what i mostly use
to score individuals in proxmity,
too.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as far as i recall
the better studies were done by
the russians, measuring eye movements
Adlai: what is a "known simple
test" for "intelligence",
though?
Adlai is not knowledgeable enough about slug anatomy
to respond
Adlai: spiders move so quickly because
their brain is right
there
Adlai: asciilifeform: interesting.
the only correlation i can
think of for reaction
time would be
that of overall size, or rather,
the length which nerve signals need
to
travel
mircea_popescu: decimation diametric would one of you consider perhaps changing nick ? you're hitting a
total blind spot with me, you're like figs and dates, i keep confusing you!
diametric: she once
told me she literally believes obama is
the anti-christ.
decimation: diametric: a nontrival portion of
the us population probably believes
this
mircea_popescu: it doesn't mean much more
than,
this empty bottle of soda could in principle be gasoline.
diametric: the incoming ebola pandemic is brought
to you by
the evil nazi atheist muslim obama, and his horde of unbelieving non-republican swine
that infect our great god fearing nation.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the brain size is not necessarily a predictor of anything. my amd quad is smaller
than an old pentium
decimation: seems like a 'force majeure' clause
to me
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: IQ isn't all physiology, ie, genetics. Your iq is in part dependent on your epileptics. So, yes, "there’s a lot
to
the functioning of
the brain
that’s purely cultural, and
thus ethnic" but
that "black kids immersed into white culture could in principle get
the same IQ measurements as white kids" does not follow. Blacks have smaller brains and lower iq because of
their genetics - placing
them in a
mircea_popescu: <dub> where are
teh bitbets? 50K US deaths by chrimbus << make it.
decimation: dub: are you saying
that obama is walking ebola
to keep
the republicans at home for
the elections?
assbot: Epicenter - Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: <dub> you forget
this is libertard holy grail, fully half of all bitcoiners are sitting in
the bunker cleaning ar15 right now << AR-15 is rather heavy for a walk
to
the exit
diametric: its not black friday until a walmart patron is
trampled
to death.
dub: you forget
this is libertard holy grail, fully half of all bitcoiners are sitting in
the bunker cleaning ar15 right now
Adlai: note
to self: winds are calmest at
the epicenter
mircea_popescu: for instance, if a fire breaks out in a crowded place, being
trampled is more dangerous
than being burned
Adlai: yeah
they really need
to release
that sequel already
mircea_popescu: Adlai sure, but again,
the mass effects are of concern.
diametric: asciilifeform: well a lot more
than 2 right now.
Adlai: i'm more scared of a friend overestimating his own drunk/high driving abilities and killing me before widespread deployment of self-driving cars,
than i am of dying of any pandemic, ever
diametric: she
touched her fucking eyes
the last i heard.
diametric: asciilifeform: i'm not sure how you've come
to
the conclusion based on a single nurse
that didn't follow
the rules getting ebola
to
the usg has let it walk at leisure.
diametric: decimation: 2013 was
the worst in
the last 17 years for measles, entirely due
to anti-vaxxers. last
thing i want, is measles moving around, and having more chances
to mutate.
decimation: diametric: I agree with you
that 'anti-vaxxers' are a bigger
threat
than ebola
mircea_popescu: in short, you have nfi what happens once it reaches
the magical 2% i
think it was ?
diametric: asciilifeform: it kind of surprises me. if anything, i feel as
though
the media, and in part
the usg, is making ebola sound way more serious in order
to keep people in a state of panic. and you're falling right for it.
mircea_popescu: this may be
true on an individual level. but large scale biologic phenomena have
their own emergent properties.
diametric: less serious in
the chances of you getting ebola.
mircea_popescu: like saying "this hooker's like 50 lbs, she's a lot less dangerous
than mike in accounting"
mircea_popescu: <diametric> honestly,
though, ebola has an R0 of 2, its less serious
than measles <<
this is relying on a whole string of assumptions.
diametric: the only person in
the US
that has died from ebola was
the african guy
that came here and was already very sick.
decimation: that's
true,
there's only been one case of
transmission in
the us,
the nurse in
texas
diametric: so far nobody has died from uncontrolled
travel from africa.
decimation: but
that's cold comfort for
the couple of people who will die because "we can't control
travel from africa"
diametric: asciilifeform: it shouldn't be,
thanks
to your local anti-vaxxers who are breeding colonies of non-vaccinated measles carrying people, new mutations are likely.
decimation: diametric: I agree with you
that ebola in
the us likely has r << 1.0, and will not be a pandemic
mircea_popescu: so i go buy chocolate dipped figs. only
to discover,
the motherfucking figs
mircea_popescu: so
these people here are fucking obsessed with dolce de leche
diametric: which is nothing compared
to 18 of measles.
diametric: I've heard numbers ranging from 0.5
to 2 for r
dub: where are
teh bitbets? 50K US deaths by chrimbus
diametric: asciilifeform: we know how
transmissible, even in a country like africa where large families share rooms,
the average person only infects 1.5 other people.
The20YearIRCloud: The flu kills plenty in Africa
too, but our death rate from yearly flu is something like 0.02%
The20YearIRCloud: It's high in
the US
too,
the difference is here it's not as liekly
transmissable, nor as lethal, and
there's extreme economic incentive
to prevent or
treat it
decimation: although
to be fair, we don't know how people with actual medical care will fair
diametric: we know
the fatality rate for ebola if you're a poor african man is double digits.