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kakobrekla: its like lisp in that sense
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: And unlike MtGox I hack on live php withou knowing php or crashing the thing. <<< this is pretty much why people like php
mircea_popescu: and you'll end up with 50 kids each contributing a nickle towards it
mircea_popescu: yeah, and then he'll ipo b-a voice on cryptsy
asciilifeform: presumably to keep him addicted while the pay toilet coin hopper is wired in.
asciilifeform: it really is time to start charging him for the privilege of using #b-a as a public urinal
mircea_popescu: all this ninjashogun bs polluting the logs... i keep skipping, who knows what valuable contribution of some legitimate participant falls through cracks thusly
mircea_popescu: so in bitbet board kako proposed a motion to give punkman 10k shares too, which passed. you got a mpex acct ? or coinbr ?
asciilifeform: but no, modified television for everybody. to this day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point being, they're cinematic screens (wider than tall) rather than coding screens (taller than wide)
asciilifeform: can't even imagine a respectable porn aficionado enjoying these
BingoBoingo: Like the world's biggest walmart http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nsa-660x440.jpeg
mircea_popescu: is clear proof the trolls have won.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in a sense, the fact that everyone today uses computers with porn screens, rather than coding screens
asciilifeform: the most infuriating thing is that the easiest way to increase vertical resolution (the only kind that really matters to me) is to turn the display 90 degrees, which is not doable on laptop.
mike_c: heh. i haven't gotten into svg yet, seems worthwhile though.
mircea_popescu: mike_c that they run on my browser.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: what do you like about the graphs?
kakobrekla: it fails on that yea.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yep i have the same problem with newer laptops
mircea_popescu: http://atc.blockr.io/#!/charts << gotta say this is one of the few pages implementing graphs correctly
asciilifeform used that thing again for half hour, to test, and now has a truly astonishingly-powerful headache
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, they exist, but not really feasible for laptop from what i recall
asciilifeform: mike_c: they exist, in theory, but nothing with 1000+ rows of pixels
mike_c: aren't those IPS screens supposed to be the shit?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this story is actually about a machine involved in my day job
mircea_popescu: kinda why soviets became unpopular in central europe in the 80s
BingoBoingo waits for the cold unforgiving march of money to turn cardano toolchain into workstation.
asciilifeform: what is interesting is that genuine product becomes unavailable at any price.
mircea_popescu: generally fake money regimes induce this inflation-through-lowering-quality economic aberration
mircea_popescu: i doubt the trend towards worse quality will change before sound money is reintroduced
asciilifeform: but, missed it. didn't even suspect there was any further to go, through the already abysmal floor lcd quality dropped to.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall this being discussed before somewhere
asciilifeform: not every day one discovers a totally new scamatron, on own skin.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i discovered that the machine with the dithering lcd wasn't just dithering. it has a 'pentile' screen (hard-wired white pixel in the middle of each rgb element! for fraudulently increased apparent brightness.) had no idea this even existed.
RagnarDanneskjol: successive squaring.. etc. but yes I concede your point. sorry, am at work righ now, unprepared to hash it out further
asciilifeform: for one thing, the clock doesn't tick unless someone actually gives a damn.
asciilifeform: there is no concept. the idea of releasing a crypted turd sans key is ancient.
RagnarDanneskjol: yes, ultimately limited to a single dedicated timekeeping box. still, he managed to flesh out the concept well
asciilifeform: RagnarDanneskjol: you can easily come up with a non-parallelizable problem, but asking that 'no one have unfair advantage' is absurd.
asciilifeform: RagnarDanneskjol: same idiocy as the 'asic resistant altcoin' problem.
kakobrekla: first we need to start charging for them lines
mike_c: when is b-a going to list itself on mpex and pay shares based on line count?
mike_c: can't argue with that.
mike_c: [19:33] <ninjashogun> have you had a look at the logs? Usually it's barely legal porn and random derping.
assbot: NSA Mind-Bender: We Won't Tell You What Info We Already Leaked to the Media | WIRED
BingoBoingo: PeterL: Over time he seems less bad, until he seems souper bad again.
PeterL: when I upped him I didn't realize it was the same crackpot I had talked to before
mike_c: how many times has he asked you for money?
PeterL: sorry, I didn't think it was that bad?
mike_c: who crappe don the logs this time?
PeterL: ben_vulpes: sounds like something fun to work with
xanthyos: the ancients didn't see the sun as a star
BingoBoingo: Colonoscopy is pretty legit though.
ben_vulpes: one of the neater rocket fuels around
xanthyos: not that either is legit
xanthyos: astrology and oroscopy arent' the same
xanthyos: actually more than one
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ben_vulpes: it's totally possible! we should totally do it!
kakobrekla: always add 'yet' with such things.
BingoBoingo: And unlike MtGox I hack on live php withou knowing php or crashing the thing. All of those ======== make php friendly like that.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: This is your chance to avenge all of the BitBet slurs.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: And end the jokes?
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo feel free to say 'fuck off already'.
PeterL: some of the work I do is "let's synthesize X because it will work like Y (maybe?), which Other Company has a patent on"
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Will happen eventualy. At least RSS is on the homepage.
kakobrekla: should link it from the homepage
assbot: Heightened Enablement in the Unpredictable Arts « UCLA Law Review
ninjashogun: see http://www.uclalawreview.org/?p=230 for example. Patents in chemistry are super super specific, based on actually synthesized things with very precise enablement steps only, and don't cover classes of things at all.
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ninjashogun: PeterL - It actually matches something really intreresting from patent law. Chemistry is actually one of the sciences where you need to fully e.g. synthesize the thing, actually make it, since it's considered an "unpredictable" art. In other areas it's just enough for it to be obvoius that the design works a certain way.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Sgornick set one up and cazalla took it off him
bounce: except that. sheesh.
BingoBoingo: bounce: The expected phase is reacting so hard.
kakobrekla: BingoBoingo i dont use twitter but i fink it would be appropriate for qntra to get a feed. just a suggestion.
PeterL: well, we have heavy metals because fusion happened in stars, but I am not going to try making useful quantities of gold and silver in my lab
BingoBoingo: on the plus side s.qntr hopefully will help jurov with +coinbr
bounce: so what would the expected phase of that stuff be? though note that O usually doesn't count as /fuel/
ninjashogun: PeterL - in chemistry, if something exists it doesn't imply that it's chemically possible?
BingoBoingo: bounce: Nah, just build more rockets under it then sail the interstallar medium on inertia
PeterL: I'm a chemist, I try to work with things that are possible
ninjashogun: PeterL, well, sure, but if you call me an idiot and make an impossibility argument, then a counterexample weakens your case. It also makes it hard to collaborate. It's why I wondered if you ever got any projects to fruition, i.e. actually made anything. There is a continuum from idea through execution and name-caling isn't usually on there.
bounce: fuel? that would be a little inefficient.
PeterL: ninjashogun: NASA also put a guy on the moon, but there are no companies doing that (yet)
BingoBoingo: bounce: No, I'm proposing H00000000H as the fuel
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bounce: I'd say "whoosh" but the sonic boom disagrees
ben_vulpes: after all, all he needs is capital and then the magic will happen!
ben_vulpes: if the brits can do it, why can't ninjashogun?
assbot: NASA Helios - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ninjashogun: PeterL - Your point is okay but of course this is a counterexample http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Helios in the sense that this has a payload, and flies indefinitely. So the question is more one of degree than absolute feasability.
PeterL: I didn't exactly call you an idiot, but if the shoe fits ...
bounce: that doesn't answer the question
ninjashogun: PeterL - yes, we discussed this previously, it was a condition of speaking with you about it.
ninjashogun: bounce - it's not only full of trolls. Even though PeterL has just resorted to calling me an idiot (in keeping with this channel) he makes a good point about volume and weight. (Poorly expressed.)
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: What is easiest for the back van across the street to intercept though?
PeterL: ninjashogun: I didn't realize about the public disclosure thing, but it makes sense in the sense that patents last a certain number of years from when the thing is invented, and this keeps people from only filing the patent years later when they realize it is worth money
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