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bounce: 206.190.153.228 and 198.244.10.26. which is the old, which the new?
mircea_popescu: sucks to live in the sticks eh cazalla ?
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bounce: looks to work here
thickasthieves: http://cardozolaw.hosted.panopto.com/Panopto/Pages/Viewer.aspx?id=01b5be00-c8df-4688-a1dc-5302b6ca3c7e in Lawsky in 10m, the video feed has a chat function if qntra wants to ask Q's
mircea_popescu: if industry worked like you represent it here apple would have no choice but to list 20 trillion in assets worldwide.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> bounce: we'd be talking seven figures in tax and enviro-bureaucracy fees alone. << you don't understand how leveraged crap generally is.
mircea_popescu: jurov> or you fess up to paypal crap? << cardano won't sell for fiat./
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> jurov: i'm not part of the 'cash economy' in any way, shape, or form. but even if i had the skills and social connections to house and feed myself using paper benjamins, it is quite impossible to obtain industrial equipment and parts from overseas in that way. <<< yeah, which is why meth isn't a problem either.
jurov: what? you mean ascii to confuse some agency into believeing that NSA ordered the cardano manufacture?
bounce: wonder if buying chunks of laid up corporate tax evasion bezzle at a discount would be sellable to them corps.
bounce: if the fab is laid up there's lots of tax break leverage. but you'd have to be a big corp to really make that happen. you know, apple and their sea^Wocean of bezzle. they can't use it in the usa though, have to buy up something somewhere else.
asciilifeform: bounce: we'd be talking seven figures in tax and enviro-bureaucracy fees alone.
asciilifeform: jurov: recall my gravity well analogy. one gram of rocket fuel gets you nowhere nearer to escaping, e.g., earth or moon. a hundred tonnes - does. the gram brings you nearer to blowing out from the well only in the sense that it's one gram less that you must collect.
bounce: I was really talking chip fabs, not pcb plants. IIRC IBM wanted to offload fishkill, and nobody wanted it because tech too old. also, random search result: http://www.10stripe.com/featured/map/semiconductor-fabs.php
asciilifeform: jurov: great question. if critical mass of btc, i can escape to a friendly country and build small plant using modern tech.
thickasthieves: good to have a plan
kakobrekla: afaik he mentioned once he plans to take em to his grave.
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2014 05:27:15; asciilifeform: the pick'n'place cum pastelayer is the only cut to a 'gordian knot' - namely, can't have the boards populated at a genuine factory (prohibitive cost for small batches) - but can't populate by hand with acceptable yield (very fine-pitch components)
bounce wonders what it'd cost to buy up and reactivate one of those laid up fabs.
jurov: or you fess up to paypal crap?
asciilifeform: bounce: this discussion is academic, however, because we can't afford the NRE that would be involved in having prototypes made in a 'proper' plant.
bounce: right next to virginia. hm.
asciilifeform: Adlai: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt and much more of the same.
bounce: you in nyc? talk to bcb.
asciilifeform: jurov: i have made inquiries. they know about it. but no one, readily, yet works for coin. or, more importantly, can be trusted to carry out a contract with the white man without the strings attached to using fiat/usd.
Adlai: what has ninjashogun been up to that gets him so popular in here?
jurov: one needs to get creative. these overseas people don't know about btc?
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asciilifeform: jurov: i'm not part of the 'cash economy' in any way, shape, or form. but even if i had the skills and social connections to house and feed myself using paper benjamins, it is quite impossible to obtain industrial equipment and parts from overseas in that way.
asciilifeform: jurov: there are groups of deviants in nyc, etc. who are said to trade btc to and from usd in cash. but this is not very useful to me in particular.
jurov: i did not mean it as cocncrete advice, just that there are things i did not deem possible before
asciilifeform: jurov: having large cash holdings is a health hazard where i live. and it isn't like i can buy machinery from, e.g., taiwan, with it, either.
jurov: not six figures, though
jurov: asciilifeform: i've seen mircea's ways to exchange x.eur directly into crisp cash, maybe you should ask him for guidance to do likewise
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thickasthieves: jurov, closed last short with profit, spent that on coins and am sitting out for a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQtzV9IZ0Q
cazalla: i'm not gonna try and contact the guy, aus gov already kicked down a bunch of doors for less
cazalla: it's not but that twitter account was complaining about it at the same time
mircea_popescu: wait. how is the twitter acct related to the shut down domain ?
cazalla: plus given the host admitted to shutting it down, prob is legit, no donations yet anyway
cazalla: prolly but everyone was claiming its official ISIS where as the twitter feed itself said hey, we're not official
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2014/10/dell-sells-excess-capacity-to-bitcoin-asic-miner/#comment-86 << is this leah mcderp that found satoshi ?
mircea_popescu: A twitter account, @QA_AF, is now seeking bitcoin to assist in paying server costs although the donation address2 is yet to receive any bitcoin donations. << you know, those are usually scams.
mircea_popescu: just once i wish i got one that fills instead.
mircea_popescu: shit why do these bottles keep emptying.
mike_c: he said he's sitting on coin now. i took that to mean long.
jurov: that's up to discussion what's neutral position here
mircea_popescu: generally before going to bed you put it in neutral.
jurov: id'be really sleepless in tat's place. lats i remember he shorted
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BingoBoingo: Yes. Now that the domain's been pointed It's a matter of messing with configs until site comes alive
asciilifeform: xmas << that's where i'm mentally shooting for, yes.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Back up of which thing?
assbot: No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform meanwhile, the hard questions : http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/#comment-108786
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you happen to have a backup at any point ?
mircea_popescu: note that i am not offering criticism, merely halping the pot air.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's my one ticket. which is why i've spent 90% of my free time and 100% of my disposable income on it, for... a while.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i'd have swallowed it already. << well, being able to sell the cardano would probably fork for that purpose.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i mean, a couple thousand hits a day shouldn't trigger any limits.. << you don't know much about the shitbox biz model do you.
cazalla: i had hoped it was the ISIS post
bounce: so is the broken inglish in the ticket response
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> suspended for excessive use of resources, can't even access cpanel or ftp to make a backup, submitted a ticket << that's classy o.o
asciilifeform: fact is - and i confessed this before on several occasions - i can't afford to move my equipment overseas, certainly can't afford to repurchase it, and moving so much as 300km in any geographic direction would leave me immediately without an income. insta-zap.
asciilifeform: ty kakobrekla (i'm working from a terminal, in a faraway place, for reasons of having to eat. not entirely irrelevant to this discussion...)
bounce: there's more to this fancy industrial world than just the USA. oop norf you can even learn to speak french and stuff.
asciilifeform: ... to think and work (no day job in the ugandan salt mines, for example) is not a cheap proposition. if i knew of a magical pill against this, i'd have swallowed it already.
asciilifeform: im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself... << i've lost count of the people who asked me about this. it's terrifyingly elementary problem - living is expensive. it's cheaper in, e.g., uganda, than usa, but the equipment i use does not get cheaper when far from the industrial world. on the contrary. and extraction of my own sorry hide, and that of my pet, in a way that still leaves me able to think and
cazalla: "Your account has been suspended due to many number of processes active at /home/bitcoinp/public_html/qntra.net/index.php. This processes were causing high server load."
cazalla: i imagine its because of the guy that was dosing the other day
mike_c: plus, they get -2 points for serving a 200 with some fucking blank page instead of a 50x.
mike_c: i mean, a couple thousand hits a day shouldn't trigger any limits..
mike_c: was the excessive usage from an attack?
kakobrekla: super fast server until you use them
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cazalla: BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Cazalla is hosting it, I don't have panel access <<< suspended for excessive use of resources, can't even access cpanel or ftp to make a backup, submitted a ticket
asciilifeform: deep inside the gravity well, probably not getting out alive; but will carry out project no. 1 and hopefully no. 2 as well before obola calls my name.
thickasthieves: yeah i just thought snsa was rolling in coins
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mircea_popescu: fuck do i know the details.
mircea_popescu: im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself, and well, he's the only one in the position to make that plan
mircea_popescu: <thickasthieves> but as i see it the co has the budget and is severely crippled << eh, one of the major advantages of being listed on mpex is that people can make their own decisions. noine of that "gotta move to sf" bullshit.
kakobrekla: well bring a slave to up them then.
mircea_popescu: this is something to sparta!
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no, this is not something to be solved by technology
kakobrekla: i dont see them coming and im not going start to
asciilifeform: we talked about this. i can build planet for xxx usd, cisco - no.
mircea_popescu: ppls gotta up teh noobs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cisco << i personally oversaw robot legs (steel pipes) purchased for several hundy usd each, while a thrall of usg - much less cisco
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and 7k usd! one could build a small planet for that! << you have any idea what cisco and friends sell stuff like balancing routers etc ?
thickasthieves: where the hell is my bitcoin video game then!
asciilifeform: aha yes. i remembered almost the correct figure.
mike_c: srsly. at least he stopped trading.
TomServo: mike_c: give him some sleepytime tea
thickasthieves: well then i need to stfu
kakobrekla: thickasthieves prolly confusing with the S.MG
assbot: S.NSA, October 2013 Statement (1) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.