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asciilifeform: why would they need to 'lose' paperwork.
asciilifeform: so the paperwork will state, box sat in good order until such-a-date when god disintegrated it with death ray
mircea_popescu: see the beauty of it all ?
mircea_popescu: no, they may not lose the paperwork
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform heres' the funny thing : yes, they can lose the content
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: according to the box contract in all extant u.s. banks, they can simply 'lose' the contents, and max liability is a joke number
mircea_popescu: just make sure to name the branch manager and the clerk in the suit.
mircea_popescu: easy way to pay a mortgage.
mircea_popescu: bounce> and on top of that, they'll let any old law enforcement take a look-see but should you die, may or may not let your executor in << if they do you can sue, and they will settle.
asciilifeform: the weakest link in the system is the automatically the value of x in 'x access-controlled.'
asciilifeform: nubbins`: that's called - vault with rectothermal (or, hammer drill...) access control.
bounce gets the $5 wrench
nubbins`: i guess i'm actually imagining it, because the nebulous thing in my head right now isn't really a picture
mircea_popescu: devthedev in theory, a newsite's ability to earn should be a function of the content it holds.
devthedev: I'm slightly worried about the Qntra shares. If the amount of S.QNTR shares double monthly wouldn't the revenue have to double as well to keep up with the inflation?
assbot: History of Computers and Computing, Automata, The Automata of Villard de Honnecourt
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: a smart-wheel that spins itself based on distributed consensus << i dunno if you know or not, but this actually is a historical thing, proposed by Villard de Honnecourt. http://history-computer.com/Dreamers/VillarddeHonnecourt.html
asciilifeform: it's a temple.
asciilifeform: the chumpers line up to get boxes, etc. not out of legally-enforceable promise of correct function, but - from faith.
nubbins`: so, TLDR, great for a backup copy of your homeowner's insurance policy but not much else
asciilifeform: the fiat bank, as at this point even a child knows, is what we in usaschwitz call a 'faith-based institution'
bounce: and on top of that, they'll let any old law enforcement take a look-see but should you die, may or may not let your executor in
nubbins`: "actually, i guess i'll have a seat while you find the fucking sheet"
nubbins`: actually a couple visits ago, they lost the sign-in sheet for my box
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2014 16:11:44; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'coinbase insurance' post - little story. recently i had occasion to rent a box at a bank (storage of various paperwork for firm.) the contract was a hilarious read. bank only insures a box for up to 25k usd. and specifically excludes damage from robbery, fire, water... virtually anything. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you get all the advantages of marking it as valuable with none of the downside of accessibility or deniability.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: read the treasure thread
nubbins`: you owe me like 5 satoshi for this
mircea_popescu: !drown the dev
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nubbins`: man shaves sides of heat, decides to wear a suit and tie anyway
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only group where giving the impression is actually the substance of the profession.
nubbins`: your writeup is great for the theory side, i'd like to marry it with something technical
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves kinda what makes me think of him as a whore.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: nubbins`, everyone's too busy reinventing the wheel to take the time to describe the one already in use << this guy is veering into prophetic.
thickasthieves: basically goat only knows how to say "i am awesome, i make lotsa coins, think of me as a financial beast plz!", but in 5000 different ways
nubbins`: colombians i think are an exception
mircea_popescu: jesus who;'s that vocational school reject in the pic ?
nubbins`: srsly, they call it castellano in .ar?
thickasthieves: ive read too much of goat
mircea_popescu: just thought you'd like to know.
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
thickasthieves: goat is satoshi i though
thickasthieves: fuck teh decimal
mircea_popescu: soon it'll be "users are advised to upgrade to openssl 0.9.8obamakilledthejews"
nubbins`: xinxi: the text i quoted earlier was from Robocoin
mpmcsweeney: for sure - just pointing that element out, its a sticky situation nonetheless
mircea_popescu: OpenSSL 0.9.8 users should upgrade to 0.9.8zc. << best fucking part. what do they do when run out of minor versions ? use a letter. and when you run out of the 27 motherfucking letters ?
nubbins`: xinxi: we print things :D
nubbins`: thickasthieves in the guy's defence, he waited six months before his emails even started to turn snippy
thickasthieves: mpmcsweeney - customer did agree to a no refund policy
nubbins`: xinxi in here, i mostly just modify the S/N ratio. in meatspace, i print things
mircea_popescu: it'd allow them to grow the fuck up, which is verboten in openssl bruceworld.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no, saying that would be truthful and "unprofessional"
mpmcsweeney: the part where he pretty much implies that they cant refund the customer until they sell the unit, thats no good
mircea_popescu: "This issue was reported to OpenSSL on 26th September 2014, based on an original issue and patch developed by the LibreSSL project. Further analysis of the issue was performed by the OpenSSL team. The fix was developed by the OpenSSL team." << gotta love the seething anger.
nubbins`: "i want to acknowledge that as with all bitcoin companies, we're a bunch of fuckups who took on more than we could handle and now we need pitchforks to shovel all our excuses"
thickasthieves: i know what it's like to have a vindictive customer turn a small problem into a worse one
nubbins`: srsly though
nubbins`: "I want to first acknowledge that as with all bitcoin companies, we are working extremely hard, drinking from a fire hose and solving problems, stabilizing the platform AND continuing to improve every day."
thickasthieves: yeha i'm not defending them so much as leaving the door open to both parties being asses
nubbins`: thickasthieves TBF the robocoin replies were brutal
thickasthieves: heh they do have hm chairs on amazone whaddaya know
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: october, the OFFICIAL breast cancer awareness month << i think in some us states it's illegal to get breast cancer out of wedlock, or on any other month.
BingoBoingo: I'm trying to hunt for new and "expensive thing was expensive" keeps introducing noise today.
thickasthieves: other than robocoin's shitty numbers, i dont think this while consumer ripoff report is all that convincing anyway
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: vexual using tor. imagine << it's easy, he just went over to the tor ip and proceeded to push keys until he was let in.
mircea_popescu: how about you get with the times ?
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mircea_popescu: <TomServo> "I talked with the Guardian editors about publishing the manual. In the end, we decided not to, because the information in it wasn't useful to understanding the story." << lel
BingoBoingo: I'm probably going to have to replace the fan it the laptop again. This time I'll probably buy 5 or so
ben_vulpes: clearly those people don't understand business
nubbins`: hit up one of the local office furnishing places, fuck staples
thickasthieves: they also dont know how to use hyphens
thickasthieves: fwiw, the first words on the dealer website: "Welcome to Workscapes. Workscapes is a woman owned business."
assbot: PC World: Apple G5 Gets Trounced By Athlon 64 - Slashdot
BingoBoingo: Remember those couple years when Intel was out of the CPU speed competition http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/03/10/15/1251233/pc-world-apple-g5-gets-trounced-by-athlon-64?sbsrc=thisday
ben_vulpes: or sit in thing
thickasthieves: i guess i could order one direct without trying it... seems foolish
ben_vulpes: middleman is getting squozed out of existince in this qntry
thickasthieves: no herman miller on there
ben_vulpes: don't buy things in meatspace
thickasthieves: Staples wouldnt sell me their last best chair either
thickasthieves: theyre just too busy for my business today
thickasthieves: i got turned away at the herman miller place
thickasthieves: i tell ya, it aint easy buying a nice computer chair
BingoBoingo: Well find something and then make it news'd
ben_vulpes: me: "yeah, taking care of myself would be a good idea. i'll let you know if i get around to it!"
assbot: Vietnam: Prosecutors Reject Charging Bitcoin Traders | Qntra.net
BingoBoingo: realzies: http://qntra.net/2014/10/vietnam-prosecutors-reject-charging-bitcoin-traders/ << Interesting to see the Prosecutors recognize of tool of great use in their personal business
ben_vulpes: lady: "maybe you should take a nap before our dinner party"
assbot: NEW INTERN HAS BROKEN MY HEARTAPPARENTLY PACEMAKERS RUN A TINY AND HIGHLY EXPLOITABLE JVM
asciilifeform: 'tenser, said the tensor, tenser, said the tensor. tension, apprehension, and dissension have begun.'
BingoBoingo: Tensor Tensor!
asciilifeform: Bruce Schneier Censored by Snowden Censors << wat. backwards headline. s is one of the central snowden censors, afaik.
assbot: SO YOURE SAYING MY POODLE IS HEARTBLEEDING FROM SHELLSHOCK?WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN GOING ON
nubbins`: background theory + nuts and bolts + examples
BingoBoingo: Fall is indeed the season for drama
danielpbarron: i really like the idea of working for shares
danielpbarron: and of cousre autumn is when all the interesting things in bitcoin happen :/