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cazalla: mircea_popescu, yes but a little reminiscent of when
the stooge is
told
to give a check
to
the
tangiers lol he does as he is
told
thickasthieves: maybe i'll submit an article about
the problem with qntra share dist model
cazalla: and gee i had a few
too many last night
cazalla: well see, qntra is
titled news, views and commentary so
thickasthieves, you are quite welcome
to submit an article in response
to mircea_popescu's
thickasthieves: lol every article should say how many shares it made at
the bottom
assbot: Re: "Well, I want
to switch over
to replace EMACS LISP with Guile." - Naggum cll archive
mircea_popescu: bounce my idea was
to make it contrary forces. so
the wordcount should result like
the stuff in colorado, a splendor.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves news will have a pov. want it
to or not.
bounce: first it's got
to steal your attention,
then it's got
to keep it,
then it's gotta fill
the article,
then it's got
to pad
the wordcount
thickasthieves: my main gripe with news is when it's propaganda or meant
to manipulate
TheBroker: ;;gpg eregister
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform idea being, everything needs
to be done. cables are needed
too.
bounce: there's more or less
three candidates, given
the wordcount rule
mircea_popescu: i mean sure in
time it can branch out and grow and w/e, but as an anchor,
that's how it was born
Apocalyptic: <mike_c> if you want
to know all
the stupid shit
that is hapenning, not
told
to you by idiots, read qntra. //
that's probably
the best definition of what it does
mircea_popescu: i
think mike substantially has it,
tbh.
that's pretty much
the mission.
mike_c: if you want
to know all
the stupid shit
that is hapenning, not
told
to you by idiots, read qntra.
bounce: headline writing is a fine art
though. news shops have people
that specialise in exactly
that.
mircea_popescu: that was baked in
the design. "take
their subjects, write
them better"
thickasthieves: you can
tell when qntra is
trying
to be cold, and when it's catering
to b-a readers
mike_c: the lawsky
title was a bit silly for my
taste, but
the content was useful
to me. i'm glad i read what happenned.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves wel no,
this is
the sort of shit
that happens. one day cazalla was minding his own fucking business. suddenly, it's "make a news site!"
then
the next week it's ddosed
to hel, and
then
the next week it's "here's an artikcle from mp, everyone in chan wants
to make a call, it's on your head. make a decision"
thickasthieves: it's just new, we are indeed
trying
to judge a
toddler like an adult
BingoBoingo: qntra prolly ought
to grow
to include editorial eventually. cazalla's decision as
to when
mircea_popescu: bounce lol i
think im good either way, not about
to starve if
they reject my contribution :D
bounce: you're rooting for
the
tin foil hats
that speculate you'll get paid
to not write for qntra?
thickasthieves: this sounds a bit like
the colored coins conversation ;)
mircea_popescu: bounce
think about it, if i never submitted anything
to qntra wouldn't ppl want
to know why i don't ?
bounce: well, why do you submit something
to qntra
that would do peachy fine on
trilema?
thickasthieves: well
the
trying
t be different, i
thought, was
to eschew now-common problems in news
bounce: then
there's no point in
trying
to be different, is
there?
mircea_popescu: the blog is
the superset of
the written word.
tom sawyer is a badly implemented blog.
bounce: does qntra have
those?
mircea_popescu: yes
thickasthieves.
the issue is as follows : no matter how much fun you'll have,
there's more people making more people having more fun
than you out
there.
mike_c: bounce: in
the lifestyles section? or
the opinion page? or
the comics page?
mircea_popescu: bounce so
they can't report on derpy stuff like moolah or w/e ?
thickasthieves: you put out a carrot and
then say, oh dont worry about
that
mircea_popescu: ideally people do
their job because of
their job, not because of
their carrot
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves he means
that by
the
time
there's 10bn, a few more added won't make a difference
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> no,
they constantly dilute except for active writers. << clever
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> womenz can not be owned!!1 <<
the line is
that humans cannot be owned, and it's only spouted by
those who've not realized
they're owned
mike_c: you don't have
to like every article.
mircea_popescu: well yes. so
there yo uhave it : any way you go about
things you're going
to be selecting something.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves looky. factually
the btc bottom happened. factually
the dow movement happened.
ben_vulpes: that's like a
third "private messages" a
third "project manager" and a
third bitchy babes
thickasthieves: this is
the same as
the wot concepts,
the including footnotes and source links concepts, etc
ben_vulpes: relatedly: why do guys derp on about PMS and not about
the ovulation?
mircea_popescu: the reason accuracy is a concept at all is
that news can't ever be correct. which is why estimates are accurate and calculations are correct.
TomServo: I'd like
to see qntra stick
to
the (published!) facts, personally.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "fuck me" it is
that
time of
the month, yes
mircea_popescu: but
things
that actually happened
that you personaly can't verify are what ?
mircea_popescu: nope. im putting some pressure on your quaint but broken notions of
truth, factuality and so on
thickasthieves: that's why news is dangerous, and why people with
that attitude in news are even more so