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jurov: i doubt most people actually understood it. went
to
the
theatre like it went
to church (when everything was in latin)
mircea_popescu: i should do a shakespeare once just
to mess with people.
mircea_popescu: this ? you kidding me ? and people bitch at
trilema being
too complex
to read ?
mircea_popescu: this was read, over screams and bellows, in a crummy
theatre, and people fucking understood it ?!
mircea_popescu: creeps in
this petty pace from day
to day
to
the last syllable of recorded
time, and all our yesterdays have lighted fools
the way
to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! "
mircea_popescu: bounce incidentally, since you quoth macbeth. "She should have died hereafter;
there would have been a
time for such a word.
To-morrow, and
to-morrow, and
to-morrow,
jurov: devthedev refresh
till it works
mircea_popescu: except
the most common form of congenital malformation is fixed with
ties.
mircea_popescu: not
that widely, it's recent and still experimental
therapy afaik
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fun fact : rabies doesn't kill per se. current
therapy consists of essentially freezing
the brain while
the virus is flushed out by
the immune system
mircea_popescu: the most we have
to go on is
that while
the recent aberrations produced neither of
those,
mircea_popescu: works just fine. you start with women in
their 20s, self selected. you beat and humiliate
them into shape. five
to
ten years later, people emerge of
this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one has
to have a whole lotta
things. literacy is a good start, of course.
the actual kind.
jurov: asciilifeform it was ability
to follow written instructions,no?
jurov: but s.qntr shares would outlive
the stars or such
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, africa had no soviets, it was and will remain in
the shitter.
mircea_popescu: romania was in
the shitter in 1984, and has more gold per capita
than most states
today. all it
too k was getting rid of
the soviets.
jurov: however,
then
the owners share will increase indefinitely
mircea_popescu: comparing modern day idiocy in africa with
the white areas of 1800 ios nonsense
bounce: I
think you're a bit spoiled here;
try and compare reddit derpage and
tardery with
the complete inability
to even follow
the simplest instructions when
they're paid
to do exactly
that in places with real modern day rampant illiteracy
jurov: i propose using s.qntra shares as payment for
trilema credits, upon which
they are irreversibly destroyed
mircea_popescu: reddit is
the
temple of
this bizarre sect,
the large collection of people who can use letters but don't understand sentences.
mircea_popescu: they can convincingly pretend like
they can read. but in point of fact,
they can not and do not.
assbot: A very unfair perspective. pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: you don't get
to measure literacy as counted by j h newman with "literacy" as counted by some fuckardacy.
bounce: meaning
that fully half
the people couldn't read in
the 1700s, where it's now closer
to just about all of
them who can read.
assbot: Many Eyes : Percentage of Literacy in
the 1600's-1700's
mircea_popescu: this never happened, seriously. you seen
that early 1900s
test for ohio if memory serves highschoolers ?
bounce: emergence of a middle class was a bit of a giveaway. increased life expectancy, better literacy all-around, lots of little stuff. life got a lot shinier for a great many people,
to
the point of bringing a great many more people in
the world.
mircea_popescu: you'll have
to argue for
that better baseline. what's better about it ?
mircea_popescu: and yet...
that 2nd brain will never function. all it
takes is a little more doping and suddenly you *don't * have a semiconductor
bounce: bit of a... paradox perhaps,
that improved life circumstances yield a better baseline but a lower
top yield
mircea_popescu: a child is conceived. he is healthy. inside his cranial cavity, among water,
thin strings of protein run every which way.
bounce: currently I
think
the effect is a bit midway. much larger bulk of apes, lower relative yield of persons despite much better all around education(!), still a net absolute plus, but in a sense a disappointing one
mircea_popescu: no matter how you bang on it,
the shit chip won't suddenly start dropping magic packets.
mircea_popescu: so in short :
there's not going
to be external solutions
to internal problems
mircea_popescu: to quote
the
teflon don speaking
to sam giancanna, "all
they got is a
tape. let 'em play it 'till
they're sick of it"
mircea_popescu: suppose qntra buys mtv, and obama is shown back
to back doing
that, 18`994
times over
two weeks.
bounce: it's not impossible, even if hard
to see being as it is
that same emergent property. so
the point is not
to discount it
too easily.
mircea_popescu: bounce in
the same spirit (of statistics) :
the average bacterium makes no penicillin
bounce: that puts a bit of a damper of how many people you can remember
to be important
mircea_popescu: bounce
that's a dubious
theory. i don't credit it so much.
bounce: could well be an emergent property of our social limits, mind. like how
the human social intelect can deal with ~150 "friends"
mircea_popescu: see,
the distance between bounce's
theory and asciilifeform's practice is
that in
theory
there's a lot of
things
that aren't actually fouind in practice ?
mircea_popescu: then who ? who are
those numerous people
that make news ?
bounce: around
the sec? quite possibly nobody.
mircea_popescu: if
the sec is a puppet, if senior counsel for
the sec ~= housewife
bounce: the sec is more or less a puppet anyway; look into
the commentary around
the flash crash, esp.
the nanex guys
bounce: apparently "senior counsel" doesn't mean "chief dealmaker". so she's in a position
that sounds important but is essentially
toothless when it's not about bullying random other parties into filling in a bunch of forms.
this phenomenon isn't exactly new.
mircea_popescu: which is why and how
the entire "don't sneeze on people"
thing was introduced.
mats_cd03: thickasthieves: ya but what was it. i'd like
to reproduce it.
mircea_popescu: what are we
talking about
then ?
the five or so people
that mp ?
mircea_popescu: lacks
the authority
to make a deal in her purported field of expertise
mircea_popescu: today, someone who has
the unmitigated audacity
to misrepresent herself as "senior" SEC counsel
mats_cd03: thickasthieves: wut was
that site
that downloaded
torrents for you?
mircea_popescu: if not idem
then at least somewhat approximting
the same
bounce: what
this does
to relative and absolute importance depends on your viewpoint as much as plenty other factors
mircea_popescu: bounce but hear
the contrarian view. in 1814,
there were about 1k actual scientists in
the world, ie, people making
their own moral judgements, as independent agents