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mircea_popescu: nanotube well
the recent "We will steal user's btc and deliver it
to
the usss" stuff is pretty much fucking
the goat.
nanotube: mircea_popescu: why is bitstamp scammy? also, is
there anything out
there less scammy with non-piddling volume?
BigBitz: mircea_popescu I just
trade for fun. Nothing fancy. Bitcoin doesn't have place for
TA :)
mircea_popescu: i don't envy you ppl
trying
to
trade your cross or anything.
Adlai: mircea_popescu: context. BigBitz seems
to have a different definition of "scammer"
than
the rest of
the channel
mircea_popescu: so you know, just because
they're not quite as feckless as bitstamp, what's
that do for anyone.
kakobrekla: BigBitz what did you
think of btstp 2 years ago?
BigBitz: but I can't day
trade on
thin air.
mircea_popescu: yes, but
this "republicans are better
than democrats" bs is neither rational nor something
to ever consider.
BigBitz: but it's better
than
the clusterfuck
that is Bitstamp.
BigBitz: I know
they could be stupid by association.
Adlai: looks like you have some reading
to do as well :P
mircea_popescu: Adlai im curious, did you figure
that out from context or did you do suupportive reading ?
bounce: well, fly after
that "Ark A"
that's leading
the way
bounce: I hear
there's an "Ark B" scheduled for launch in a bit. might wanna get on, eh?
kakobrekla: such variety. i want
to get off
this planet away from stupid people. BigBitz wants
to give
them money.
Adlai: BigBitz: i volunteer
to
translate. "don't
trust bitfinex with your money, because
they're potentially unwitting scammers
through a combination of fecklessness and incompetence"
mircea_popescu: you admit
they stole, but you claim
they're not scammers because what again ?
BigBitz: anyways... clearly
there is no sane argument in reference
to
that, so, what's
todays hot
topic, mircea_popescu.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu I just like
to know.
mircea_popescu: "don't worry about fucking me, it's
true i raped a girl last week but i washed all
the blood off my cock so should be ok"
ThickAsThieves: bigbitz, i
think
the point is
they were conspitors in
the first place
mircea_popescu: Adlai
the
thing is,
the way
the search is organised now, you click on
the finds and it gives you
the day's context
BigBitz: yeah mircea_popescu, I know
that, but
they claim (liars, potentially)
that code is non-existant on
their platform now.
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> some derp pounced on some code he had no rights on,
then had a public split with one of his co -conspirators (also well documented in public)"
Adlai thinks improved history searching
tools are better
than requiring newbs
to read up, since
they can also serve forgetful veterans
BigBitz: mircea_popescu I am happy
to follow; but some context is always good.
bounce: mpoe-pr was a handy-dandy reference, at
that
kakobrekla: BigBitz anyway best you keep
them coins
there so we can find out.
BigBitz: I'm happy
to move
them - I just like
to knoe some information/detail.
mircea_popescu: truth be
told
time is working against us on
that score, we will have
to somehow create a compendium
bounce: probably need
to compile a couple dossiers. where's
the intern?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves or maybe
the same six months or who knows.
ThickAsThieves: i'd say
that 12-18mos of logs is probly
the requirment now,
the discourse hasnt been as dense
this year
BigBitz: I did say "I have some coins
there"
BigBitz: kakobrekla well
that's why I was asking. Feel free
to educate me as
to how
they're inclined
to scam.
kakobrekla: <BigBitz> but I can't argee
that stupid people are instantly scammers. < so, it
takes some
time. are you going
to wait for it?
mircea_popescu: but
that does nothing for your derpy "arguings" or w/e you
think
they are.
mircea_popescu: you're jsut some derpy dude with nary a clue left around since
the early days
mircea_popescu: dude look here : i agree
that your stupidity does not make YOU a scammer.
Adlai: btw when you say "spend 6-12mo reading #b-a logs", do you mean read
that many months of logs, or spend
that many months studying logs?
BigBitz: but I can't argee
that stupid people are instantly scammers.
BigBitz: kakobrekla sure, I agree with
that wholly.
kakobrekla: BigBitz stupid people do stupid
things. you dont want
to expose your coins
to stupid behavior.
BigBitz: Let's move on
then. Since you can't articulate.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu if
that's your rationale
then how can I argue...
BigBitz: I admit
their use of Bitconica code is
that of retards.
mircea_popescu: some derp pounced on some code he had no rights on,
then had a public split with one of his co -conspirators (also well documented in puiblic)
Adlai: for one
thing,
they're offering
this fishy mining contract as a "beta" but
taking real money for it
BigBitz: ( I have some coins
there, I'm intrigued ;) )
BigBitz: OK so how do
they steal / lie ?
mircea_popescu: they're a scam because
the people in charge steal and lie.
Adlai: please
take sentimentality
to #bitcoin-sentiment
BigBitz: or
they're a scam as
they're stealing coins?
BigBitz: So
they're a scam as
they use shitty code?
BigBitz: is it because
they use Bitconica code? :)
mircea_popescu: yeah, "the one which was a usg front openly and from day one,
totally legit"
assbot: MPOE-PR's list of
things you always suspected were scams but never dared say so. | Bitcointa.lk
BigBitz: some definition required I
think mircea_popescu.
ThickAsThieves: i partly suggest
them because of my observation of price and which exchanges veer off
the most
Adlai: (in
this cache, 'cache' is pronounced
to rhyme with 'face', as sean connery would pronounce it)
mircea_popescu: someone who really is
too fucktarded and arrogant
to understand what a negligible quantity he actually is.
mircea_popescu: and if
the price runs up, someone will have a lot of splaining
to do, as ot where all
the millions went.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes.
they're out, and have a lot
to repay now, our good friends in washington.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> grrrr, qntra.net still 127.0.0.1 here .. gyus, what about adding qntra.co, qntra.ws, etc... for such cases? << i dunno how
this would help anything ?
mircea_popescu: it is after all a real state
they got over
there, not some sort of fourth reich or anything.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> idk and i suspekt it wont be public << course it will be.
they'll respond
to
the foia requests a month after
the one month legal
term. seriously. promise.
mircea_popescu: nanotube perhaps it's also
time
to move ;;ticker defaults from bitstamp
to something less scammy.
mircea_popescu: cazalla> just so you can avoid
that "can you
turn your lamp off, i'm
trying
to sleep", "i'm fucking reading, roll over" bullshit
that goes on <<< jesus non-tpe relaitonships must suck
mircea_popescu: ascii_on_tour> and
the
tor gizmo scam being exposed, will 'wired' et al. make
the sc4mz0r give
the free publicity back? << "free publicity" only worth something on soem chains
jurov: so at least decrease
the
ttl pls if you expect such shenanigans in future
jurov: but my damn isp and many others dutifully cache it
till
the
ttl expire
bounce: did you force dns over
tor
too
then?
Adlai: qntra.net works perfectly over
tor
jurov: *rolls eyes*
tell
that
to erveryone who wants
to read qntra and cannot
bounce: or used a computer network with connections
to usg at some point in
their lives
BingoBoingo: Regulatory agency
that gets coins is probably
the one
that complains loudest