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mircea_popescu: mysteriously, "everything" they do never includes a "we wil spend one trillion dollars to fix our software-hardware. all of it."
mircea_popescu: yes, we do. and bush too, and so on and so forth
asciilifeform: bounce, mircea_popescu: not a money problem. the 'fix' is not available off the shelf.
bounce: nothing ended up here. could use a bit of bezzle. say, to build a harder-to-snoop phone.
asciilifeform: and the harder derps run, the more painful the gravel in the face will be.
mircea_popescu: what is this, the 80s and fucking reagan ?
asciilifeform: like every disagreement with physical reality, this one will make itself felt
mircea_popescu: bounce last i heard, the usg was throwing money into the street because "gotta spend"
bounce: fixing that is going to be expensive though. means rebuilding lots of stuff from the ground up. n'mind that the current tide is that of "oh we'll fix it in software nohow"
asciilifeform: duct tape over hardware defects.
asciilifeform: virtually everything that passes for 'software' in three+ decades is precisely this.
mircea_popescu: quite the contrary, such a programming paradigm is immoral.
ThickAsThieves: if you can auth into the wallety you can auto log into wherever using the bitcoin web browser
mircea_popescu: there's no advantage to trying to hide hardware deffects in software
bounce: so you're saying that dumbing down and appliancification breeds more of same
ThickAsThieves: like adding password keychain to the bitcoin wallet app
mircea_popescu: "some people connect to internet through brooms, or try to" ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how is this an argument lol
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves my point being that this is something you solve client side not server side.
ThickAsThieves: in the current sense, yes, but if decentralized wouldnt it be a way to purposefully maintain a continuity in your online identity?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't this eminently a local config issue tho ? give people scripts to just do it locally.
mircea_popescu: sure, it saves you from interacting with various people. which, you know, if that's the goal why are you commenting.
ThickAsThieves: the advantage is keychaining a lifestyle that uses 10 3rd parties as is
mircea_popescu: i still don't see what's the advantage of "go everywhere with an identity provided by a 3rd party"
ThickAsThieves: disqus is good enough therein
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bounce: didn't we already have a sackton of "SSO" trickery for websites?
mircea_popescu: so basically you're talking pluggable identity ?
ThickAsThieves: maybe of a way to auth on any website with one account?
ThickAsThieves: the concept of a spec'd way to comment on websites with one account?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so then you like the concept for everything the concept isn't ?
ThickAsThieves: yeah sure fuk whoever at disqus think sthey can get money outta the arrangement
mircea_popescu: i could see if it centralized in my own hands. but centralizing it in the hands of the enemies of everything that's nice and good in this world, the ycombinator crowd ?
ThickAsThieves: ok but i meant to highlught the concept of having a crypto version tho
devthedev: The point is the centralization?
bounce: $site will just 403 anyone coming in on tor because the spamblocking system on the commenting system doesn't take half measures
mircea_popescu: yes, but they have to do it individually.
ThickAsThieves: it's the point you made
ThickAsThieves: they cna just rmeove the option
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves not the point.
mircea_popescu: bounce no, better yet. "the MTA has turned off comments on blogs because reasons"
mircea_popescu: "centralize all the things" ?
mircea_popescu: same thing that's wrong with cloudflare, and with all the rest of the crap ruining the web
ThickAsThieves: i kinda like the disqus concept tbh, i wish there was a bitcoin/namecoin/wot version
bounce: disqus has its tentacles everywhere and is a steaming heap of slow js
asciilifeform: 'fraud' -> thoughtcrime, blackmarketeering, republikflucht.
devthedev: mircea_popescu: I agree that the Gravity ad platform is retarded but what's wrong with Disqus?
ThickAsThieves: oh, tat's just in amsterdam again, it's cool!
ThickAsThieves: and better track your spending and travel behavior
bounce: huh. so, to combat fraud they're going to heap even more sensitive personal information in some database or other
ThickAsThieves: yknow what, fuck any website that embeds Gravity ad widgets
devthedev: Ha, Obama: 'No really, I think that I’ve, uh, been paying my bills.’
asciilifeform: from the loltron: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/17/obama-credit-card-declined-nyc_n_6004754.html
ThickAsThieves: or some version of that
ThickAsThieves: tol, what qntra was simply a private news site, and you had to buy subscription and be in wot to have IPs cleared
mircea_popescu: good idea to read the thing it comes from tho.,
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal no that's pretty much it.
ben_vulpes: client *commits* to *master*
Adlai: sometimes fixing merge conflicts can be therapeutic
TheNewDeal: this an accurate translation, or is it butchered by AI - Wittgenstein , " Whereof one can not speak, thereof one must be silent
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 956.12 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.79 TH/s
assbot: The problem of claims pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> ben_vulpes: why do you do this to my tender mind << welcome to assets
assbot: The Lino framework — The Lino framework
kakobrekla: <ben_vulpes> http://lino-framework.org/index.html < yes i had the unpleasure to work with ExtJS and Sencha Touch
mircea_popescu: devthedev im not voicing you, because last time i did you linkbombed and i dun see the benefit.
mircea_popescu: then watch the adjustments, retractions and "taking of full responsibilities" come pouring in.
Adlai was actually pleased about the SEC investigating pirate's scam
mircea_popescu: cool, so perhaps qntra should run a piece about how whoever nobody from coinfire divulged today that coinfire is in the posession of signed letters by the sec demanding they do not publish information. ☟︎
Adlai: are the SEC targeting Moolah for being scammy shysters, or just for running an unregistered business?
mircea_popescu: ok, if you take those, yeah, i guess it is news.
mircea_popescu: o, i was just discounting all that.
ThickAsThieves: that SEC gave a shit about moolah and 7 companies are under investigation and SEC tries to tell people to shut up
ThickAsThieves: it was news to me
Adlai: ben_vulpes: why do you do this to my tender mind
mircea_popescu: it fails to even state a claim.
Adlai: i hope it's more successful than the "year of multisig"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves anyway, to revisit that yest discussion : THIS isn't news.
mircea_popescu: and so it goes, 2015 will be the year of that set of lolz.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is all mp butthurt, next the twobit idiot is going to want to claim "o noes, teh sec is talking to me in my sleeps!!1"
mircea_popescu: the sec can try all sorts of things, but why would it talk to some derpy nobody snipping at the edges is unclear.
ben_vulpes: oh guys guys i found the worst thing ever
ThickAsThieves: can the SEC even tell someone not to share info?
mircea_popescu: so basically this thing reads to me like, "we've read about this on reddit, here's a re-narration of events that makes us sound important"
ThickAsThieves: forensic accounting is finding evidence to support your pre-determined conclusion
Adlai: forensics should involve test tubes and blood, not sifting through numbers
ThickAsThieves: are there even 7 businesses offering securities?
mircea_popescu: coinfire guy has terrible prose, but anyway.
Adlai: had lunch with him a few weeks ago, he's very curious about all this decentralized stuff, in the best kind of curiosity
ThickAsThieves: so are they waiting for late tax filings to go after people?
mircea_popescu: "Coin Fire was first made aware of this investigation on October 14th but officials with the SEC and the Department of Justice actively informed our editorial team to not jeopardize current investigations. However, as new information has come to light and a third source stepped forward with further information our editors now feel compelled to begin publishing information."
Adlai: my uncle used to work at the SEC
ThickAsThieves: "On October 10th, we received a second confirmation of the information and an updated list showing that several companies while under active investigation have been placed on the back burner so that forensic accountants brought in from the IRS and other federal agencies to begin combing through the information."
ThickAsThieves: "On October 9th Coin Fire received information from a source inside the US SEC that Moopay LTD along with seven other cryptocurrency companies were under active investigation for unregistered securities in the cryptocurrency world. "
mircea_popescu: you should see what they eat here.
mats_cd03: im probably going to have a stroke next year but s'ok
mats_cd03: i had a burger today with grass fed beef fried in beer batter with bacon and spicy mayo
mircea_popescu: is this the one with the old guy chemist that joins some derpy kid and they make meth ?
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ben_vulpes: lisp is lisp and datomic is a persistant prologish fact store with time built in